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« Thread started on: Sep 29th, 2002, 5:55pm »

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A terrifying nightmare is the only way to describe an alien abduction. Are alien abductions real? Or, are they a figment of the imagination from the dark, uncharted regions of the human brain.

The general public seems to be split on this matter. Hard core science tells us that the event called alien abduction only occurs during sleep when the brain is in a creative mode and possibly dealing with a real life problem. They say that alien abduction could not happen, therefore it doesn't. Can the skeptics explain away all the documented evidence of abductees?

On the other hand, what about abductions that occur when the abductee is wide awake, or in broad daylight? Hallucination? Delusion? Fanciful imagination? What about the Hill abduction, the Allagash abductions, Betty Andreasson, Travis Walton, and others?

This board will deal with this question. Log in and tell us what you think is the answer to the puzzling concept of Alien Abduction.
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 1st, 2002, 8:30pm »

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I read a disturbing article in another group I'm with. Oh by the way, Hi I'm Jan. I've been enjoying the news letter for a while. I'm glad to see this site. Anyway, I read this article, you can read it here:
VANCOUVER (CP) -- Forget the probes. Don't worry about an invasion. Aliens
are actually quite affable, according to a recent university study

When extraterrestrials abduct earthlings, they often share with them a
message of hope, according to anthropologist Krista Henriksen.

"They tell people they're not alone, that they're special, they're chosen
for a purpose," said Henriksen, who studied the personal accounts of 60 men
and women who claimed to have had close encounters.

Most of them recounted being told there are profound, terrible problems
with the world but that they had been chosen to do something about it.

"Sometimes they have malevolent messages, manipulative, nasty messages.
But that was, by far, the minority," Henriksen said from her new home in St.
John's.

"Most often extraterrestrials were bringing messages of goodwill."

Henriksen recently earned her master's degree in anthropology from Simon
Fraser University with the study, Alien Encounters: A close analysis of
personal accounts of extraterrestrial experiences.

Although she is "highly skeptical" that aliens have ever abducted anyone,
it's important to study the phenomenon, she said.

It's easy to dismiss fringe groups like those who believe they've been
abducted, she said, but studying them gives us a better understanding of who
we are.

The increase in reports of UFO encounters (10 per cent of the Canadian
population believes they have seen one according to some studies) parallels
an increase in new religious movements.

"People are searching for meaning in all sorts of places that generally
aren't mainstream religious places, they're more independent places,"
Henriksen said. "This could be one of them."

Chris Rutkowski, research co-ordinator of Ufology Research of Manitoba,
said there were 375 reports of UFO sightings in Canada in 2001.

For some, such encounters are a religious experience.

"Whether they're 'real' or not, is another matter entirely," he said in an
interview from Winnipeg.

Tens of thousands of such encounters are reported annually in North
America.

Most of the stories, which are posted on a Web site for Citizens Against
UFO Secrecy, describe the alien abductors -- all human-like with feet,
fingers and eyes -- as researchers, according to Henriksen.

They are "interested in us, and not necessarily in taking us over," she
said.

Henriksen, who has studied religion, said that, while not a religion, the
belief in extraterrestrial life is certainly a spiritual experience for
those who report encounters.

"People are having profound experiences, whatever the experiences are,"
she said.

Source: Canoe Wire

I think this is outragous! Anyone abduting another and forcing their will upon them is NOT your friend. No matter how nicey nice their message is. Jan
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 1st, 2002, 9:57pm »

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It is true that we tend to always expect the worst when dealing with alien abduction. This may go along with the old adage, "Bad news travels like wildfire, good news travels slow."

However, if the goal of the abduction was to bring peace and good will, it seems to me that it would be an overt operation, but what we are seeing is the abduction where the victim is usually mentally instructed NOT to reveal any details of the event. This is why in many cases the details only come out after a period of time, or through regressive hypnosis. I would not think being a benefactor would require forcing the person to receive good will.

I am not totally disagreeing with the writer of the article, but it would be my opinion that he was dealing with individuals who were doing some mighty strong wishful thinking about being abducted and it being a positive event. Sounds like an overcompensation to me.

I personally have investigated only one abduction case that had a positive result, although I do know there have been reports of such. see this article:

http://bjbooth.topcities.com/Salter.html
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 1st, 2002, 10:25pm »

hmmmmmmmm...You missed my comment at the end, my friend. I DO disagree with the writer of that column. It can't be for any good reason that people are abducted or are made to think they are being abducted.
It's ok. My post was too long anyway. I thought of editing out some of the article but I was in a hurry and just put it all in. Glad to be here though. rolleyes
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 1st, 2002, 11:08pm »

No, actually I didn't miss your end point. I was replying more to the article, than you.. You were upset by the gist of what was said, and so am I. Thanks for bringing this to us.. This is the kind of involvement here that I am looking for. I know some abductees that would not be as nice as we have been about this.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 2nd, 2002, 8:35pm »

I dont know who the author of the article thinks he is, but I dont believe a word of it. Whens the last time you heard of a support group for people who were glad they were abducted.

There are some nuts who say they want to be abducted. Well that would be alright with me. but just leave me out of it. I don't want their long filthy fingers on me. Whatever they are up to its no good.
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:59pm »

Alien Abductions Made to Order


The web page www.alienabductions.com offers individuals the
possibility of living the abduction experience. Yes, as well as it sounds.
The abduction is a term used in science fiction to define a kidnapping on
the part of a form of foreign life.

Now, thanks to this American web site, anyone with this dream can make
it a reality of being abducted by extraterrestrials. It includes being placed
under many sessions of hypnosis as are necessary in order to leave in the
memory an indelible track of the paranormal experience that was always
wished for. In order to know the type of abduction that agrees to each
individual, the promoters of the site propose a test that will give an oriented
answer for them.

Among the questions that he/she will have to answer are ones such as:
he sometimes spends more than 10 hours behind the steering wheel of his automobile, he has seen UFOs sometimes? or he is making some short
course of religious formation by correspondence? The test results are not a conditioner. The client can be put under new sessions of hypnosis and
more elements added to the initial abduction. "Imagine the emotions that
will be felt when adding another piece to the puzzle", affirms the people in
charge of the alienabductions.com. The users who wish to share their
adventure also have an opportunity to join groups, at more reasonable prices.

In these cases all the members will be abducted jointly, although to each
one of them it is guaranteed that it will maintain an individual paper on this
singular sidereal trip.

El-Mundo, Madrid / Spain | Marta Arroyo - June 05.02
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 3rd, 2002, 3:51pm »

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« Reply #8 on: Oct 3rd, 2002, 4:03pm »

That reminds me of of that movie total recall.




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« Reply #10 on: Oct 26th, 2002, 12:34pm »

I have to admit i have been lucky and not had the displeasure of being abducted


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« Reply #11 on: Oct 27th, 2002, 08:59am »

Count me in. It seems to me that every abduction account that i have read the abductee is somehow rendered helpless by the aliens. Is this some kind of mind control or what?
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 2:34pm »

Does anyone have any further information on the Todd Sees case other than what is on the Rense site?
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 4:27pm »

Yes, the Sees case was updated in several places on the UFO Casebook. The last word was that Sees death was not related in any way to alien abduction. It seems that Peter Davenport was sent erroneous information from a news source that had previously proven reliable.

Peter trusted the source and passed on what he was told. Unfortunately the informer had made up the story, and himself was given false or misleading information. It is a situation that all of us fall into sometimes. In the flurry of incoming information, we give it to the public as is, and sometimes it proves to be false or hoaxed. Any good news page should have a disclaimer on it stating this fact.
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 9th, 2002, 6:20pm »

What forum headings might I find those posts under?
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