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« Reply #105 on: Jul 27th, 2004, 1:32pm »

Guanda, I have been a practicing psychic for over 50 years and I have taught classes in psychic defenses. Do not deal with the Ouija board as it is an open medium and it is a platform for discarnate Spirits. There is a danger that lying Spirits can possess you and control your life.
In the case of a seance there is a "control" which is an Angel that acts as a medium between our physical World and the world of Spirit and which protects the "sitters" in the seance from being possessed.

The most common and effective psychic defense is to surround yourself with white light as a shield and protection. If you are attacked by spirits or low vibrational ET's your best defense is to think, "God help me". This cry for help will be answered by your guardian Angel. It has worked for me in situations where I could not defend myself against a force of evil.
You are not alone and everyone has a guardian Angel. I strongly advocate that you maintain a communication with your guardian Angel, either with prayer or by belief.

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« Reply #106 on: Jul 28th, 2004, 10:37pm »

you must have had some true experience(s) with the Ouija board, timetraveler. I have myself and you are right, it can get hairy if youre not careful. my family and I were chiefly speaking to two spirits through the board for over a year (and eventually for many years). finally one day one of them came through "urging" us to get off the board immediately. when we returned to the board they then "urged" us "take out the indicator" saying that it didnt belong.

we looked down at the indicator pointer piece - which was just a plastic point below the indicator - and that plastic had been somehow taken out and replaced with some gold nail. we took it out and threw it into the backyard. they explained to us that an entity named "ben" had been impersonating the two of them for months by then and they couldnt get passed his presence to break through to us. we never really understood ben's intentions and all Timmy & the Professor (the two spirits we spoke to all the time) only suggested that he was trying to take control of our communication.

we "regained our strength" with "Timmy & the Professor" over some months following that. they first suggested we cease communicating with them because they felt we had "opened a path" for ill-intended entities possibly to never block it again but...

Henry Drummond was the professor's name. he said he was an evangelist and missionary way back when, he talked of a crippled brother he helped raise, etc. Timmy Lynne was the other spirit. her real name was Jerri Smythe - for some reason she initially used the name of my sisters first boyfriend when we first encountered them. she said she had died pregnant in some train wreck in philadelphia.

so what you say about the Ouija board is valid based on my own experiences.

but...after many more months of consistent communication we apparently gained enough control with them to stay in control. my family and I spent YEARS speaking to so many spirits. one of them helped to provide information to a murder case in Houston, Texas. another who came through was the brother of a family friend who died in Viet Nam getting shot through the neck. that family friend had not even told his own wife he once had a brother for the pain it caused him to speak of him.

we even once had Uri Geller come through long before we knew who he was (this was in the early 80's). he came to us through some sort of sleep trance. some number of years later my mother had come across his name in a Stephen King book. then, many years later (recently) a friend of mine told me she had actually received an email back from him and that she was speaking to him electronically. so I emailed him and asked him to explain why we might have experienced what we did with him through a Ouija board. he actually emailed me back with his cell phone number and told me to call him when he was in NY, because he was going to be in some local talk show. he told me that in those years, the Russian government had been testing his capabilities with some technique in which he could project his presence to other places while he was sleeping. that was when he lived in Russia! (and when Russia was Russia.)


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another "presence" who was alive at the time used to come through via some trance as well. she told us her name was "Clara". she was extremely talented in telling us of future events - something the spirits refused to do. suddenly, Clara never came through anymore. we received a letter from a stranger in New Jersey one day, explaining that a woman named (something else, cant remember) asked that she write us when she finally passed away from breast cancer. the stranger writing us was her long-time servant, who had inherited everything the woman had - which evidently was a lot. that woman moved to Washington state for whatever reasons but she did write us ("not sure" who we were to her boss) and she let us know that she had died. the message she had passed to us was to break into the wall of one of the rooms in our house. there, she said, we would find the "cornerstone" of the house, where there was some sort of valuable items. believe it or not, we never did it. (it was in the days we rented homes rather than owned them).

I would not trade those years of amazing and very educating communication with the other side for anything. my sister and I probably should not be trying it again these days because we are so receptive being out of practice after so long but this October we are going to give it a shot. Im taking my mother to a live shoot of John Edward in November so she and I (who were always the ones to operate the board - shes the true medium apparently) will try it once to see if we can do something very interesting...that is to speak to someone close to John Edward and if he approaches us in the audience in November we intend to be the ones who provide HIM some information from the beyond.

I agree with your advice - overall. but if you have the right guidance with the board you can go far with it. that's the truth.
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« Reply #108 on: Jul 31st, 2004, 7:21pm »

Hello my name is Joseph and I have just joined this Forum. I live in England with my wife and two sons. My sister and myself are both abductees. If you have any questions about the abduction experience feel free to ask.


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« Reply #109 on: Aug 12th, 2004, 3:18pm »

Hello Joseph, I am very interested in hearing about your abduction experiences. could you tell us about what you and your sister saw and observed aboard the U.F.O.? thank you for sharing with us. Irwyn

P.S., what were your feelings and intuitions aboard the craft?
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« Reply #110 on: Sep 5th, 2004, 5:51pm »

On the Craft i saw the Tree of Alternatives. This is an imaging device. How can I describe this device? imagine blood vessels in the shape of a tree on an illuminated white background sheet. That is the nearest I can get to explaining this thing. The Greys can plug into this device through thought alone. My entry into T & A was through the mind of the Grey Mentor that I have had since childhood. He holds the key for this device through a set of codes that have been placed within his mind.
I tried to find out ,from this ET, what the Code was. All I got back was symbols that made no sense. Also the word Thetum (pronounced theeturm) was conveyed telepathicly to me. I also had the impression that this "key" was with the ET from the very beginning of its existence.
The other question that was asked was what all this had to do with me? Again more symbols. I can retrieve these through meditaion. Don't know what they mean
but I do know that they have curious effects.

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« Reply #111 on: Sep 5th, 2004, 5:57pm »

The ETs do two sorts of mind transaction with me.

The first is Mind Scan where they put certain moving images in my mind. This can be done through either during sleep (lucid dreams) or while awake (altered states). They then assess my psychological / emotional reaction to these input images / video clips. Sometimes the clips run through their course, with me as an observer, and on other occasions an
"inter-action " takes place.

The second scenario is fast play still shots of pictures / symbols that whizz through the mind. These can stop at any one place if I want to concentrate on a particular picture. On many occasions - for a reasons I don't understand - these focused picture is of the "tree of alternatives" It is an allegorical representation of reality. ETs place a mathmatical concept into an object that the human mind can comprehend. In my case the tree. Trees featured a lot in my childhood. Climbing, planting and (alas) chopping them down. My "teacher" ET would often appear underneath one of my favourite cooking-apple trees and place the imagery with the concept to be taught. ETs aid the lesson through the physical association / mental reference and emotional / psychological reaction. The "Tree" picture I "felt" represented ALL the alternatives that we can take. Shall I go down the left or right fork in the road (the branches on the tree)? What will be the outcomes to all these choices? Time moves out like an ever expanding cone. Increase the choices taken and the greater the alterations in our closest paralleled universes

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« Reply #112 on: Sep 12th, 2004, 2:25pm »

Joseph, wow! Thank you for sharing this great stuff with us. I believe that contactees are part of a two-way communication network and that they can access the knowledge of the E.T.'s. You are confirming this. I also believe that the Greys are not biological creatures but rather a highly sophisticated artificial intelligence construction that is capable of thinking and learning and reacting to input. I would question them regarding who is controlling them and what is the program.
What is your thoughts on this? I've just experienced hurricane Francis as I live in Port St. Lucie FL.
My contacts with E.T.'s are much different from yours and I have narrated some of them in my topics. Irwyn
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« Reply #113 on: Sep 12th, 2004, 2:41pm »

There is a part to my abduction story that I have never beforeattempted to write about Everytime it defeated me. Now for the plunge...............


There is a part to the ET abduction phenomena that relates to the "LIFE / DEATH PRINCIPLE. This "principle" is the notion of what we think life is. Everyone has a slightly / or markedly different perception of what life and death are about. My ET visitation is often accompanied with supernormal and impossibly "alive" forms of earth creatures. These appear before or after ET encounters. They are everyday animals that appear superabundantly fit and well. Cats; badgers; fox; birds; fish and even insects. Before a paranormal event I myself feel impossibly alive. Afterwards I feel like nuts. A couple of days ago a friend E-Mailed me, and described the feeling as,if "people were mere bugs to be trodden on compared to herself." Then at other times it is the reverse. She might be refering to her reaction to the Principle. The ET interaction gives us supernormal awareness. This puts us at odds with our fellow human beings (think of Hamoth's general alienation with people and animals).The fact that most abductees suffer a deterioration of physical health could be related to the perception of Life / Death Principle. That alien interaction is physical experimentation to be sure.! Also the Alien consciousness may bring us sharply into the sphere of the Principle. This effects the abductee physically as well. The Principle is governed by wavelengths across existence. We are exposed to this and therefore change physically and spiritually.

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The Principle is a two sided coin - superabundance and life on one side. Deteroration and death on the other.


Now I don't think I have even got close to explaining the Principle if that is the right name for it. Please remember that everybodies perception of totality is different and mine changes within degrees continually.

What is life? What is death?

The ETs showed me something that is related to existence that I find difficult to describe. Picture this:-


You are in a room looking at the figure of a black woman dancing within a circle of flames. She dances the dance of life and death. Each step in the dance is half a lifetime my friend. She dances because she is the totality of our existence within the confines of all awarenesss - the flame of our consciouss state. The nearest that I have come to seeing this expressed was through dancing avatars (Hindu and Budhist Mandalas) . To move towards Her is to be consumed within the circle of fire. To move away from Her - out of the room -is to feel coldness and death. The life force literally ebbs away from you like blood seeping out of the body.

The ETs showed me this.
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« Reply #114 on: Sep 13th, 2004, 1:53pm »

it's good to know you haven't been blown away irwyn. stay safe .
the experience you have described sounds very much like astral travel. my wife dabbled in this back in the late seventies, and probably would still had she not had a terrifying experience with it. most times she tried it she recalled being in perfect harmony with everything and being in the most beautiful places . she felt that feeling of warmth and love all around and did not want to leave but something always forced her back and she would awake with a jolt . the last time was different , in that it started well enough but then she felt caught in an inky blackness that she couldn't get away from or find her way back. she described it as a feeling of total dread , of something evil . had i not been in bed with her and realised something was terribly wrong , i believe i would have lost her that night. as odd as it may sound i believe that something was trying to capture her soul on that journey and she hasn't tried it since. it took a long time for her to untrain her mind in the sequance she used to get to the astral state, but at least she is still with us to tell the tale. have you had anything like this happen irwyn?

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« Reply #115 on: Sep 13th, 2004, 2:20pm »

to Diamond, the experiences which I have related were not out of body experiences or astral projections!
What your wife has been doing is a dangerous practice. When you attempt a state of deep meditation or relaxation you are leaving yourself vunerable to being possessed or influenced. This is very similar to using the Ouija board. There are many astral and discarnate spirits who wait for the opportunity to live vicariously through the emotions of humans.
Also your spirit can become lost in another dimension causing your body to die.
Please do not attempt astral projection.
What do you think? Irwyn
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« Reply #116 on: Sep 15th, 2004, 1:38pm »

on Sep 13th, 2004, 2:20pm, timetraveler wrote:
to Diamond, the experiences which I have related were not out of body experiences or astral projections!
What your wife has been doing is a dangerous practice. When you attempt a state of deep meditation or relaxation you are leaving yourself vunerable to being possessed or influenced. This is very similar to using the Ouija board. There are many astral and discarnate spirits who wait for the opportunity to live vicariously through the emotions of humans.
Also your spirit can become lost in another dimension causing your body to die.
Please do not attempt astral projection.
What do you think? Irwyn


oh yes i definately agree with you on that score. once bitten twice shy ,and never again . the 60's and 70's were a time of great experimentation for young people , some say it was a like a new spiritual awakening . in my view it was also a time when vulnerable people were left open to the negative forces that take advantage when our defences are down . thanks for the warning irwyn ,but we learnt our lesson many years ago and would never dabble in that area again .
i hope that hurricane ivan is not giving you too much trouble, your area has certainly copped a flogging these last few weeks . take care mate.

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« Reply #117 on: Sep 16th, 2004, 4:53pm »

To Diamond; let me define the difference between an out of body experience, or astral projection and a Cosmic Consciousness experience. When you experience an astral projection you are on your own. You have made it happen. When you experience a Cosmic Consciousness experience it is the Angels who have lifted you in their hands to a higher state of awareness and to a higher frequency. Unless they hold onto you for the few seconds that is involved your physical body and your mind could not take this higher frequency and you would separate from your physical body. The Angels create a Cosmic Consciousness experience not the human being.

What do you think? Irwyn
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« Reply #118 on: Nov 27th, 2004, 01:06am »

A new personal experience has been added to NWSURC's Alien Abduction section.

The Jeffrey Morgan Foss Story
http://www.nwsurc.com/ssa-1.htm

NWSURC welcomes all personal experiences of missing time or alien abduction - not just from Saskatchewan. You do not need to reveal your identity. Jeff has come out in the open with his story and has asked to have his email posted along with his story so experiencers and researchers can contact him.

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« Reply #119 on: Dec 6th, 2004, 4:08pm »

this is me and my friends experience that has led me here.
Im 31 year old normal guy and this unfortunatlly really happened 9 years ago.


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