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« Reply #210 on: Feb 15th, 2006, 10:32am »

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GAUTIER - Charles Hickson has no proof.
No photograph he can pull from his wallet, no papers certifying his story.

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« Reply #211 on: Feb 15th, 2006, 10:39am »

on Feb 13th, 2006, 02:18am, Taken wrote:
Ask 20 researchers and you will probably get 20 different answers. I hope we find out, but it may forever remain a mystery to us.


Yeah, isn't that the absolute truth. I don't care either. It allows me to keep my sanity so I dismiss many, many things when I read. Welcome to the UFO Casebook Taken
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« Reply #212 on: Feb 18th, 2006, 5:16pm »

We are getting some good postings here. As a psychic I can relate to many of these strange occurrences. I have experienced many unusual experiences. I think that pole is very close to the truth. Cf: you place a lot of importance on ETs giving information to our government and our sciences as a positive thing. I think you have to consider that this ET information is being used for military purposes or for political and special interests. This information is not helping people.
Have you seen any cures for diseases? Have there been any medical or longevity benefits? Has any agency announced a substitute energy for oil? We have to accept the fact that the government is seperate from the people and has its own self serving agenda. I trust the angels, not the government. We should communicate amongst ourselves and not look to the government for information or support.
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« Reply #213 on: Feb 18th, 2006, 9:57pm »

Hello Irwyn smiley

Yes, I agree. I like to read the many interesting posts and threads here.

And I know what you mean about the aliens; I've wondered that myself. Well, I'm not trying to make excuses for them, but I've heard something about the aliens following the "Universal Law" of not getting involved in the affairs of man. Now if this law deals with all aliens, I don't know. But some aliens have stated that they're not allowed to get involved, just to observe.

Obviously, this doesn't apply to the other aliens who abduct people and perform painful experiments on them. They're here to do more than just observe. Which leads me to re-state my belief that there are both malevolent and benevolent aliens just as there are benevolent and malevolent humans.

And by the way, I also trust the angels.....not the dark faction of our government(s). ;-)

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« Reply #214 on: Feb 19th, 2006, 11:53pm »

I was near finishing tech-school @Keesler AFB Biloxi, Ms in Oct.73 when Hickson@Parker had their encounter. I remember there was some activity going on at the base and the Navy had personnel coming and going a lot. When the story came out, of course there were the jokes and de-bunking but I know these folks in this state and their mind set. I'm one of em'! Folks here don't like to talk much about anything strange or peculiar except amongst themselves. I believe the reason for this is the stigma that surrounds the state. Call it what you will. I personally think these 2 men were as honest as the day is long. I surely don't think they'd hold themselves up to ridicule unless it really happened. I was just thinkin'..its like Vegas here...what happens in Ms. stays in MS! wink I know with all my sightings and being a Hum Heare, that folks here would love to just strangle me! LOL tongue
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« Reply #215 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 10:27am »

atrueoriginal; I am replying to your interesting story about the man whose brain was used by ETs. It is my belief that ETs come from other dimensions. If they wanted to extract information from a physical world then they would extract it from the memory banks of somebody's brain, the same way that we would take it from a computer hard drive database.
There are other situations. In a séance the other dimensional beings need a physical "medium" or "channel" to communicate or transmit messages.
Different dimensions are different electrical frequencies and they cannot communicate directly to a lower frequency physical world due to the difference in electrical power. Therefore, they need a "step-down" transformer. This also explains why higher worlds angels and ETs communicate through dreams and visions and holographics.
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« Reply #216 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 1:13pm »

It would be ridiculous to believe that in this humongous, multidimensional universe there are only a few types of ET's. In this world we have many different races and types of life forms. We have to stop thinking with our monkey brain and start thinking like ETs in order to comprehend them. Our science is not a help in this situation because it is too primitive. We do not know how to time travel or to access other dimensions. Apparently they do!!!

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« Reply #217 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 1:33pm »

Hello TimeTraveler. I’ve met so many people on this forum that I forget whom I’ve said this too, but nice to meet you.

TimeTraveler wrote:

“It is my belief that ETs come from other dimensions. If they wanted to extract information from a physical world than they would extract it from the memory banks of somebody's brain, the same way that we would take it from a computer hard drive database.”

I too believe that ET’s come from other dimensions, at least some of them. And I very much agree with the downloading factor in this phenomenon. I’ve heard of some Reptilian entities that currently live “behind the veil” so to speak, but are able to download and upload information to a physical person on this side, and you are right about the channeling part. The thing about that though is through channeling a person doesn’t really know if they’re channeling a higher entity or a lower entity. I used to really be into the thought of channeling, but after everything I’ve read, I’m not so sure now.

I agree that the brain is like a computer, constantly downloading information from the Superconsciousness. Recently, I listened to an interview with a man who said that during his near death experience, he felt as he was very near death, that his brain had begun to upload information to a non-physical self…….an ethereal self. I suppose this is what happens in death, as I’m a strong believer in the afterlife.

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« Reply #218 on: Feb 20th, 2006, 1:37pm »

on Feb 20th, 2006, 10:27am, timetraveler wrote:
atrueoriginal; I am replying to your interesting story about the man whose brain was used by ETs. It is my belief that ETs come from other dimensions. If they wanted to extract information from a physical world then they would extract it from the memory banks of somebody's brain, the same way that we would take it from a computer hard drive database.
There are other situations. In a séance the other dimensional beings need a physical "medium" or "channel" to communicate or transmit messages.
Different dimensions are different electrical frequencies and they cannot communicate directly to a lower frequency physical world due to the difference in electrical power. Therefore, they need a "step-down" transformer. This also explains why higher worlds angels and ETs communicate through dreams and visions and holographics.
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Actually timetraveler, what that was, was a post from member hjdelight on December 20, 2002. It was a friend of his who he was speaking of.

The confusion here is because I am the poster of same ( in this thread), but not the initiator of the post.

More recently BJ wanted us to reduce the number of 2002 & 2003 threads. Shy of deleting, which none of us want to do, we instead copy/pasted these old threads abduction threads to this thread. They are actually very old stories but were worthy of keeping. hjdelight is still a member in here, maybe you should PM him about it.

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« Reply #219 on: Feb 23rd, 2006, 6:22pm »

I have posted these stories before, but I believe that they deserve repeating.

I will post some of my own personal experiences to share with you and to encourage you to share with us.

#1- I was south of Lexington Avenue and East 42nd Street in Manhattan and walking very briskly while trying to dodge the heavy pedestrian traffic.
As I was looking straight ahead, I suddenly felt my skull in the back of my head had been removed in an area of about 5 inches in diameter. It felt to me as if I was having a lobotomy operation and I could feel the coolness inside my head and a loss of bone density in this area. This area of my head had become numb. This feeling of numbness was very similar to the feeling that one experiences when a foot or an arm “falls asleep” due to the pinching off of a nerve.

Then I saw with amazing clarity, as if I had an eye in this “missing” area of my head, a disk shaped spacecraft which I “knew” to be about 250 miles above the Earth. This craft was gently rocking back and forth as if in a gentle magnetic breeze. I was able to “see” into the interior of the spacecraft whose dimensions I sensed to be about 18 feet in diameter by about nine feet high.
I saw three “men” inside this craft. They all appeared to be about 5 ft. 7 inches tall. They all had white skin, black hair, gray eyes, and they all looked identical in appearance. They were each dressed in a gray colored mechanics type overall, which had no buttons or zippers or any apparent method of opening or closing this garment.
One “man” had his back to me and was seated on a raised plastic type molded chair. He was facing a crescent shaped keyboard of many different colored lights. This keyboard somehow reminded me of the music organ at Radio City Music Hall. I “knew” that this keyboard was the operating panel for the spaceship.
Another “man” was walking from the left side of the vessel toward the center. The third “man” was bent over a central support column which ran from the ceiling to the floor and made me think of the center axis of a gyroscope. He was peering into a black binocular type sighting device, which somehow reminded me of a Norden bomb-sight. I realized that he was watching me through this instrument.

Then I saw what looked like a steel cable coming from the bottom of the spacecraft and connecting to the back of my head, and although I knew it was not a physical cable, I sensed that it was to show me that a communication connection had been made from the spaceship to my brain. The cable followed my every movement as I dodged the human traffic on the street, and I felt that I was connected mentally to that spaceship.
During that day at work I tried to believe that this experience had really happened to me, but it was so unbelievable to me that my mind was inclined to dismiss it as an hallucination.
When I returned home that night after work, within a block of my house I saw a brilliant flash of silver light streak from one end of the sky to the other like the blurred movement of a silver colored metallic object. This silver light traveled across the sky at a speed almost too fast for the eye to follow. At this point I looked at my watch and I saw that the time was exactly 3:40 AM, exactly 12 hours after the UFO sighting experience. I took this to be a confirmation from the spacecraft that my experience had been real.

#2-My quandary has been are UFO's really Angels? Or, are Angels really UFO beings? I have lifted one of my experiences from an earlier posting and I am posting it here for your perusal.

This is a common practice of UFOs to seed the minds of certain people for future awakening. This has also happened to me. I will recount this experience as follows;

Are UFOs Angels?

I have had several contacts and communications with Angels and UFOs. My dilemma is that sometimes I do not know if the UFO contacts are really Angels. Here are some examples from my book, "The Soul Is a Traveler in Time".

"When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were interested in UFOs. I was interested both in psychic development and UFOs, and they wanted me to go with them to George Hunt Williamson in Arizona because he was contacting UFOs.

I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience. I went to bed one night, but before I went to sleep, I had the conviction that I was going to meet a flying saucer that night and make a contact. I went to sleep, and I had a dream. In this dream I saw myself at a train station that was elevated above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was waiting to meet a flying saucer person, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look unusual. He probably would have an antenna coming out of his head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody abnormal looking.

As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a man walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody weird, and here was this normal man walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed him and he said to me, "Mr. Greif I believe you're waiting for me". I looked at him and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical Madison Avenue businessman. When he said I believe you're waiting for me I knew that this was my "contact".

We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene changed. Instead of a modern street, it became a biblical desert. Time was turned back to the time of the Old Testament, and I saw that this desert was a plain that stretched out in front of me. At the end of this plain was a silver river. We walked together side-by-side alongside this river.

As soon as this scene had changed, this figure who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met him, started to grow until he became 6 feet tall and his clothes became the biblical robes of a prophet of the Old Testament. When I was walking next to him, I felt in the presence of a being who was godlike. I was awed by the magnificent vibrations of this great being. I felt so humble and so respectful.

The being talked to me into my right ear, and I remember turning my head because he was taller than me and I wanted to hear what he was saying. He talked into my ear and I cannot remember the words, but I remember that his voice was like pure liquid silver and his words went through my ear and into my Soul. I was told at that time that I was given teachings that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words when it was right for me to remember, and that these words were impressed deep into my soul.

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Last week I was in an introspective mood. I was reviewing my life and I was asking myself, What important deeds have I accomplished in my lifetime? What good works have I performed? How have I benefited humanity? I have not painted any masterpieces. I have not written any great symphonies. I have not made any great discoveries or inventions in science or medicine. What are my accomplishments in my lifetime?
As I was feeling sorry for myself and judgmental about myself I realized this awareness. In the cosmic reality which is the "big picture" our deeds are not as important as our thoughts. Our deeds are confined to this system of life and only have a value on a limited basis, and only within a limited time frame. But our thoughts and our communication can uplift and raise the level of understanding and consciousness of a person or of a group of people.

This was made aware to me in a lecture that I did in Montreal about 30 years ago to a spiritualist church. I was lecturing on the subject of angel worlds and UFOs. As my lecture was proceeding I felt the power and I realized that the level of my lecture was being raised to a very high level. As I continued to lecture I asked myself, why is my lecture raised at such a high level when the audience is French Canadian and have limited English comprehension? At this time my attention was drawn to two "men" who sat in the center of the audience. I looked at their eyes and I knew that they were not from this world. Their eyes had a calmness and peace and well-being such as I have never seen in any human's eyes.

I finished my lecture and I sat down. The only two persons who came to me as I sat were these two "men". One "man" shook my hand and said, "that was a very fine lecture Mr. Greif." The other "man" said to me, "you are the first real human being that I have met." At this point I realized that these two "men" who were from a higher world had raised the level of my lecture so that they could raise the consciousness levels of people in the audience.

I was very honored by the response of these two "men" and to me it was like receiving a cosmic Academy Award.

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« Reply #221 on: Feb 23rd, 2006, 8:22pm »

It is great that you had a wonderful memory to return to to realize your abilities.
I think sometimes we all go through such periods of introspection in our lives and wonder what good we have done in the world. I think the most important thing is that our affect on people can change things in the world one person at a time. A quiet and peaceful revolution. We are all given the ability and opportunity to be there at precisely the right time and place in the life of another to make the difference that is needed for them. By the teachings and more importantly by the love we share we lift the next person to a higher level. Then they in turn will have the opportunity many times in life as we do to pass that on to another. I think that those men were at your presentation to lift you more than just the speech. The very act of your spirit being lifted higher made your words clearer for someone in that audience. You may or may not ever know the person who didn't come up and speak. But I would bet someone in that audience heard words they were there to receive, and the seed would grow at the right time.
I belive we touch many more people when they need it than we will ever know. And I am sure you did.
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« Reply #222 on: Feb 23rd, 2006, 9:45pm »

Hi folks, I've hanging around in this forum as I have some questions on being abducted myself. This is the first time that I've had the courage to speak of it but I guess that's one of the real reasons I joined this site. I want to know. I had a sighting of a huge UFO back in 1989 and its posted here somewhere. LOL! This is a big site and I'm trying to learn how to navigate it. Anyway, after seeing this huge craft, I know that I had missing time. There has always been something elusive about this experience, I have always known that there was something more to it. As for having been abducted...I can't say for sure, but I know that something hapened to me that night that changed me. I don't guess I have to tel yall that seeing a UFO is one thing but to think that you actually had contact or were abducted by something is totally different.
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on Feb 23rd, 2006, 9:45pm, karen wrote:
Hi folks, I've hanging around in this forum as I have some questions on being abducted myself. This is the first time that I've had the courage to speak of it but I guess that's one of the real reasons I joined this site. I want to know. I had a sighting of a huge UFO back in 1989 and its posted here somewhere. LOL! This is a big site and I'm trying to learn how to navigate it. Anyway, after seeing this huge craft, I know that I had missing time. There has always been something elusive about this experience, I have always known that there was something more to it. As for having been abducted...I can't say for sure, but I know that something hapened to me that night that changed me. I don't guess I have to tel yall that seeing a UFO is one thing but to think that you actually had contact or were abducted by something is totally different.


I felt the same way as you for a very long time and mine happend in October of 1988 (also lost time). I left my sister's home with a friend and she lives in Apple Valley, CA. We left just as the sun was setting at 6:30 p.m. and headed to Las Vegas. Well, from Apple Valley, Las Vegas is only a three hour drive exactly because it is exactly 180. We arrived at 1:00 a.m. We remember pulling off the freeway but neither of us can remember why. For that matter, neither of us remember getting back on the freeway driving, we just realized that we were.

The whole time I was in Las Vegas I felt sooooo odd. I felt like I was in la, la land. lol I just didn't feel with it. I didn't feel like I was all there.

Then, in August of 1995, I started to get what I call peeps. Not full blown conversations yet, just an occasional thought would come in. Then, on January 7,1997, I started to hear from them and that's when all the elaborate OBE dreams and awake state visions and the constant conversations began.

Most all of my visions are all alien oriented and all done in movie form that tell a story. Trust me, it's nothing you want. The very first day they asked me to lay down on my bed and close my eyes and they gave me a vision of a crystal owl. The most beautiful colors I had ever seen. This owl was rotating so I could see it at 365 degrees.

The following vision tells a story. This will just give you an idea as to what I mean. Through the days I continually ask when, what, where and why. This is one of the answers I get.

Vision (awake state) eyes closed and seen in my mind

In this vision I was somewhere I had never been before. There were hangers like airplane hangers everywhere. There were a couple of large trucks that I knew were fire trucks but they didn't look like our fire trucks. There were a bunch of aliens on them with hoses in their hands and there was fire coming out of the hoses (instead of water) and they were trying to hit me with the fire from the hose. I kept running and jumping over things to get away from the fire.

They told me that they were here to fight fire with fire. Well, you have to look at the metaphoric value for fire so don't think it's actually fire because it's not. Fire, for them anyway is a word they use for a form of communication that is not pain free and I constantly feel a fire like feeling in my brain when they speak. It literally feels like a burn.

Like I said, you don't want this and don't have it, it appears. So aren't you the lucky one if you were abducted because look at what you could have got.


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Oh, I've had owl visions and dreams for years. In fact about 3 days after the sighting, I was asleep, heard a noise outside my window, woke up(I think) and saw a small owl looking at me. Then I saw all these people going up a escalator to a landing, there were people in shining garments that were urging them to hurry before it was to late. The people seemed to be boarding some kind of craft that I couldn't see. When I woke up, I had this sort of feeling that I'd had an epiphany of some sorts.
I want to add that after the sighting of this craft, I had the groggy, la-la thing you mentioned. I was really zoned out for several days.
I've gotten this much clear now, when I saw the dog barking, it seemed that I was all of a sudden on the porch, smoking a cig and then saw the craft as it went over. I also have a memory that didn't come to me until about 2 years ago...I remember seeing the dog, he was on the other side of a 2 strand barbed-wire fence, I put my hand on the fence, looked up in the direction that Deacon was barking and then looked over my shoulder. Then I was on the porch.

I'm very in touch with my dreams and can tell the run of the mill stuff from things that have significance. For nearly 16 years, I've been tormented by dreams of faces looking at me, talking to me, asking questions. There are little flashes of things that come to me but they always escape away. Not long ago I heard a ruckus outside and went out to investigate. It was about 12:30 A.M.. I went out to the backyard and can remember very clearly hearing something in the bushes, so I hollered hoping it would go away and the dogs would quit barking and then I just don't know. Then I remember my husband standing at the back door calling me and asking WITH I was doing out there. I couldn't remember. He told me that he was half asleep when I got up and went out but after about an hour he got real worried. Later, he told me that I just said I was listening to the owl. He told me that he really got frightened. And trust me, he's not the kind that scares or believes in a lot of things unless he sees it for himself.

When I saw the UFO in 89 my daughter still says to this day that I was outside for at least 3 or 4 hours and she was getting scared. She was 11 at the time.

Here's how I roll...if something came to me in the open and explained things..I could accept most anything. I am not easily frightened. But this shadowy nagging, sounds at night, strange dreams and feelings of almost at the remembering of things really frightens me.

I know that on that fall night in 1989, something happened. I don't know for sure what, but something happened to me. I've had to live with it for 16 years. I've had no-one to talk to. , I'm from Mississippi! We don't talk about abductions or suspicions of it here on a regular basis.

I'm not a sleepwalker and sleep paralysis is something I've never experienced. I just don't know what happened to me. But I've felt like I've been shadowed by something ever since that night. No..I know I've been shadowed. I just don't know what to do or where to go from this point.

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