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« Reply #30 on: Nov 25th, 2002, 09:22am »

Permanent Brazilian abduction?

Location: Navegantes Beach, Brazil
Date: August 31 1974 Time: night
Antonio De Azevedo, an angler, was on the beach with his wife when they saw a discoid object with varicolored lights land close beside them. It was shaped like "two plates with the rims stuck together." The vivid lights temporarily "paralyzed" the observers. From the object emerged "3 strange short beings wearing greenish spacesuits;" their faces "seemed to reflect the green color of their clothes." Conversing in a strange language, they quickly "examined" the angler and his wife, then seized the latter and took her into the object, which took off at incredible speed. Apparently she was never seen again.

Source: Gordon Creighton, FSR Vol. 21 # 2
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« Reply #31 on: Nov 27th, 2002, 9:26pm »

That story seems to be a bit uncommon. Aren't most abductees returned? If this event is real, what happened it is down right scarry. Some of these guys must play with a whole different set of rules. Thanks for the interesting post Goblin.
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« Reply #32 on: Nov 27th, 2002, 10:40pm »

Backlit, There are other stories similar to the above
specially from South America, and some investigated
by local Ufologists and thoroughly documented. I will try to find some of the others and post them.
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« Reply #33 on: Nov 28th, 2002, 02:35am »

This is purely theoretical but there are a good number, at least several thousand, people missing each year in the US alone that are never accounted for or found again. Now I am not saying that ALL of them are taken off by aliens, but maybe some of them are. How do we know that at least a few of them are not victims of alien abduction?
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« Reply #34 on: Dec 2nd, 2002, 11:29am »

I quake at the thought of "permanent" abduction. I do wonder if a small part of the missing persons each year are victims of alien abduction. Thanks for the reports, they are all interesting.
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« Reply #35 on: Jan 1st, 2003, 2:45pm »

I recently found a small website with some really interesting articles about alien abductions. Have a look at http://wickedscholar.0catch.com/abductions.html.

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« Reply #36 on: Jan 1st, 2003, 2:47pm »

I recently found a small website with some really interesting articles about alien abductions. Have a look at http://wickedscholar.0catch.com/abductions.html.

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« Reply #37 on: Jan 1st, 2003, 9:28pm »

I recently used a portolet and found this website inside:

http://wickedscholar.0catch.com/abductions.html.
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« Reply #38 on: Jan 4th, 2003, 05:19am »

Eric I have to agree with H.J. THIS WEBSITE WAS EXTREMLEY OFFENSIVE, not just too alien abductees who have had a rough time of it already, but also to any normal person. I do not know of any permanant abductees, but as said previously with the amount of people that go missing every year with no trace this has to be a viable option.
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« Reply #39 on: Jan 29th, 2003, 02:03am »

cool As an individual that was abducted at a early age, I think that who ever wrote the article does not realize the emotional nor the psychological ramifications of their statements. It is hard enough to deal with everyday life but admitting you been aducted only puts a stigma on your life, by others. Not to mention the turmoil of having to deal with the whys and the mixed emotional feelings or anger and the desire to not feel violated as far as security goes. YOU never feel safe again. Well thanks, just my opinion once again AbductedSoul
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« Reply #40 on: Jan 29th, 2003, 07:39am »

Many, many thanks for that short insight, Abductedsoul.
You have probably put it into a better perspective than I could have in 20 pages. Hope to read more posts from you.
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« Reply #41 on: Jan 29th, 2003, 8:01pm »

cool Dr. Shrewsbury had this to say to Wicked Scholar editor Eric Wolf: "I obviously believe whole heartedly in the existence of other life forms beyond earth. I've devoted 35 years of my life to the search. What I find absolutely amazing is the number of people who believe totally and completely that intelligent aliens routinely visit the earth and carry out experiments on human subjects. Over the past several decades, I have been contacted by literally hundreds of people who sincerely believe that they have been the victim of an alien abduction.

I've noticed some common threads that bind most if not all of these individuals together. First of all, most of the people who report that they have been abducted are not at all attractive and many are downright ugly. Secondly, almost to a person they are uneducated and quite stupid. Intelligent, critical thinkers, of course, instantly recognize abduction stories for what they really are; the adolescent fantasies of pathetic, fat, stupid, people with empty, meaningless lives.
Sorry to say but this sounds like the rantings of a person that spent 35 years and came up with a big fat zero and feels his life is meaningless. To critize others for how they look or their intelligence is a act of fustration and futility. Not only those things but it is the sign of an uneducated mind in the fact beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As to the success of the individuals that claim to be abucted, no one is getting rich off of the claim of having been abucted,second we all know money begets money. Not all people are born into this world with the ability to become rich, nor do they want to nescessarily. Dr. Shrewsbury seems to be angery with his having invested much of his life and not being contacted or abducted,like it was something to want to be. His assumtion is that the aliens would only pick beautiful people and intelligent people? Define intelligent? College educated? I know lots of intelligent people that never have been to college. Well Once again just my opinion Thanks for your time AbductedSoul Peace to you all and safety !
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« Reply #42 on: Jan 29th, 2003, 8:49pm »

Yes your absolutly right in what you say my friend. This so called Dr. shrewsbury was extremly offensive.(It was not by any chance Dr. SUEsbury was it grinlol). Again thanks for your continued postings, they are a pleasure to read.
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« Reply #43 on: Feb 11th, 2003, 03:48am »

cool I was surfing the net today, like that is something differnt for me, and found that alot of people think that if you have been abducted you imediately become this believer of all claims. Like the aliens make you this mindless drone or something. The other opinion is that abductee's are in it for the money or fame. What fame ? What money?
I would like to give some insight from my view point on this subject. Experience is the best teacher, so with that said, let us proceed. First The very act of being abducted, by aliens or by the government pretending to be aliens, the result is the same. Trauma to the psyche and to emotions of the individual. Is it any wonder that so many real abductee's do not come forward.
I mean why come forward to be ridiculed, doubted, put under the proverbial microscope? Testimony from abductee's is torn to shreds by people saying you said this here and that there. Okay does that prove they are lying? Let me give you an example. let say you are sleeping and suddenly you awake and you can not move and there are aliens standing around your bed staring at you. Hmm you imediately are composed and clam mentally right? You are saying to yourself I need to document this so I will know it happened ? Now the aliens take you on their ship, at this point are you still documenting? Or are you thinking, Well good bye cruel world I am leaving you today never to return never to see your mother your father your loved ones? After they get done abusing you, to them however it is just another specimen to collect data from, they put you back and you wake up the next day.
I think you get the point I am making, the human mind blocks the images out and pushes them to the subconscious level of memory, it tries to isolate the information absorbed. Why? Because even if you are the most well read on the subject of aliens there is nothing like the experience, it overloads you. We say there is book knowledge and then there is practical knowledge. Both are viable means and one with out the other is like a computer without a key board.
The intensity of the fear, the fascination, the wonder, the shattering of all your concepts of reality in truth, as opposed to some abstract concept, defintiely makes the time coherent blurr. Like when your about to get in a car wreck time slows down 1 second seems like 1 minute. Well when your recounting it to someone, when you get up the nerve it comes out all jumbled and has "holes" in it. Only after many years of internal anguish, and running the emotional gambit so to speak does it become a part of you with some kind of peace of mind. The hardest words of an abductee are I have been abducted.
As to the side effects of abduction, well I will list a few I know to be very consistent, with people that have been and are low key about it. Which I think there are literally 1000 of around. But keep their mouth shut due to the hassles and they want to be left alone. You see them walking the street, homeless, destitute, something in their eyes.. Guess no one ever noticed the rise in homeless people after big ufo flaps occur, the silent ones I call them. Anyway here is a few symptoms

1. A distinct feeling that they are not human entirely
2. Moments of utter repulsion towards humanity
3. Obsessive disorders are common
4. A strange disassociation with politics and current
events
5. Limiting the use of televisions, radios
6. Ostersized by society, ie thought of as weird
7. Plagued by paranormal activity
8. Paranoid with merited reason
9. Multiply time loss periods through out life
10. No sense of direction in life

These are but a few that I have found to be common amongst the people I know that I believe have been abducted. I know of 5 that I have met and communicate with. I know already that some will be shredding this to bits as to whether it is true or false, personally I do not care what you decide as to it validity. I only hope you never do find out the reality of it all. To understand the struggle just to survive to fit in again with your own species, to wrestle with the loss of your life as time ticks by and you stuck dealing with this event and no one to help or believe. The isolation of knowing and not being able to prove. Well Just my opinion on this matter
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« Reply #44 on: Feb 11th, 2003, 11:00am »

How true your comments are! I have dealt with several abductees, and without exception, they do NOT want their name released, and moreover, they are making every attempt to keep their experiences within themselves, and deal with them internally. Why? Because they will be labeled a nut or a hoaxster, ridiculed at work, and treated like they have leprosy.

I have not been abducted myself, but I have read so much about the experience that I feel like I have some insight into their harrowing experiences. All of us who claim to be researchers need to develop an open-minded attitude about what the effects on the abductees are, both physical and psychological.
The outward wounds will heal much more quickly than the mental and emotional ones will. What most experiencers need at first is believe, not ridicule.
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