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xx Remote Helicopter and abduction story
« Reply #300 on: Oct 7th, 2007, 4:09pm »

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« Reply #301 on: Oct 8th, 2007, 07:32am »

on Jul 24th, 2007, 6:33pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
If you don't realize that Intell can already locate a person off a gps with just their brainscan, you haven't really lived.


Sorry, but how it can be done?.. If we have no chips or something like that...
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« Reply #302 on: Oct 12th, 2007, 4:40pm »

Hello All
My name is Monika and i am 43, from Belgium.
I got atacked with sometechnology in 2005, and aswell i had inpression my mind was being read, my sleep controlled, and my emotions manipulated.
Also my coputer and cell phone and car were hacked...
(many more thinkgs, , altogether a TERYFYING EXPERIENCE
i never thought of aliens though, i thought of military experiemnts, and i found many people wolrd wide, a big epidemic wave in fact since 2000, complaing about this to human rights organizations and politics, becuase its crimes against humanity.

In case this i s human technology, i hope every body understands why they make believe victims for instance that they are abducted by aliens...

also the victims of mindcontorl technoogy, herar "voices" and that is why everybody thiks they are ccrazy...

when one looks at the case summaries of mindcontrol victims

and the case summaries of abductees....

ONE SHOULD SEE ITS ONE AND SAME THINKG COVERED BY MAKING IT LOOK LIKE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
http://soleilmavis.googlepages.com/comments
FROM CHINA VICTIMS STORIES AROUND THE WORLD

greets Monika
www.mindcontrol-victims.eu

i am looking for Hilda Mush from Holland as thereapist, anybody an idea?


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« Reply #303 on: Nov 12th, 2007, 10:48pm »

I have not had much personal encounters but the other night I had a very vivid dream. In this dream I was at a cozy maternity floor. This place was not a hospital though. The rooms had large windows so that visitors could look it. During this stay I was in a hospital bed expressing to nurses and one handsome male doctor that I was going to need pain medicine even though I was not in pain. I remember the doctor telling me that an IV would be started. I remember also feeling like I was just there and someone forgot about me. That is when I got out of the bed and began to walk around. That is when I actually saw myself pregnant. I remember walking around what appeared to be a nurses station but not feeling very welcomed. I also walked into a room where people who worked there but were not nurses or at least not dressed like nurses sat in there. I felt like I was interrupting. I then was walking around a hall and entered a room were there were about 10 reclining chairs (it reminded me to a spa where you get pedicures and there are chairs right next to each other). There was a large window where others could look in. I remember being in what was stirrups and feeling pressure down there and acting like was some discomfort. I looked down and saw a head out side of me and then there looked like forceps on it's head and then the baby was out. I didn't get to see what the baby looked like. I just felt okay after that. I got up and walked back to my room. My friends were there and they said to me..wow you don't even look like you've had a baby ! I must have been having pain because I kept asking for pain medicine. I then was experiencing the same thing but feeling like I was being ignored. Maybe I wasn't abuducted and this was a strange dream, but I woke up the next morning sore "down there". Strange.
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« Reply #304 on: Nov 13th, 2007, 11:33am »

Abduction is such a hard topic, especially for those who have undergone abduction - hard for many, myself included, to talk about. As stated in many posts, the biggest problem is fear of ridicule. Often times sites are infiltrated by people specifically to pull us away from the important points, some who ridicule, etc. It angers me to read comments from prominent people in our society who put it all down to dreams and fantasy.

It took me a long time to get up the nerve to start posting and sharing, which I did start doing several years ago. Often times I still find myself pulling away when posts I feel are important have been ignored, or worse yet, get negative feedback and ridicule. But I am getting tougher skinned cheesy and feel the need to start posting more again.

I have found several sites that lean towards my own thoughts of abduction. Sites that are dedicated to the late Dr. Karla Turner and keeping her work out in the pupblic eye. Her last book written "Masquerade of Angels," I think brings out the truth of what is being done to abductees, how the first layer of screen memories recovered are actually false - they are implanted memories of a benevolent type such as we see many speaking of - here to save us, our planet, etc. You have been chosen - you are special, etc.; and having gone further beneath these first screen memories abductees are coming up with some horrible and traumatic truths to what really has taken place during their abductions. This book can be read on-line at:
http://www.karlaturner.org/Karla%20Turner%20-%20Masquerade%20of%20Angels.pdf

another good site with many of her articles is onhttp://maar.us/index.html

I really recommend reading indepth on these sites. There are other stories there to read about abduction cases and MILAB cases. Please take the time to check these out. There is a big deception going on and we need to get our eyes opened to it before it is too late.

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heya cc
glad to share. thanks for taking the time to read it.

am sorry to here that you are still having problems with fear, and your 'memories' of your chidhood experiences . i did when i was young, but not now.(they did a pretty good job of 'blocking out' most of what i suspect happened, thankfully)

even though what i 'remember' doesn't come across as very pleasent, i'm trying to use it positively, and do what i can.

as for your memories and flashbacks, it sounds as though you are not finding them quite so beneficial.
and the 'dreams' you find yourself having are probably not 'normal' dreams sorry to say. (that said; i am hoping 'some' of them are your subconcious thoughts trying to iron out a few problems/questions ...but not all, we've got apretty good idea of what the 'rest' are, unfortunately)

happy to chat/discuss more with you anytime ok, ms cc.
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Hey Mat,

Thanks so much for your kind words. Australia! Awesome. grin

No, the dreams and memories I have are anything but happy ones. Mostly fear ridden. What I thought were flashbacks the past couple years actually turns out to be memories of current abductions as I recognized my bedroom here in Illinois, so they continue. I thought I was too old to keep undergoing abductions( I am 59 years young laugh, but now I hear that is not true, that many people undergo abduction right up until their death. Not a pleasant thought!!

The worst one, as had more memory of the abduction than others, happend back on July 26, 2005. I am awake, but in that half sleep mode where you feel groggy. There is light in my room as I can't sleep in the total dark, but enough comes in thru the window from pole light out in the yard to allow me to feel comfortable at night. I am scared as the covers are ripped off of me and the bed in one fatal swoop. This has happened several times before that I can remember and my fear level ison the rise. I can see the darkish grey figures standing there next to my bed. This time is different as it goes further than it has before - normally it would have ended there and I would wake up in bed screaming. This time I felt some type of energy gripping my body and pulling me to a sitting position in my bed, then thrusting me forward so that I am in a prone floating position above my bed. I can see down at the floor and notice my blankets lying in a heap below me. I then look forward and see several creatures standing about the room. I start flailing my hands and feet. I feel like I am swimming in the water but not moving anywhere. The fear rises even more as I stare at the creatures, and I start to get a scream out but is like it is stuck in my throat. That is last I remember of that - next thing I know I am back in my bed, I sit up in bed grasping my blankets and let out a scream. I am very disoriented, and keep glancing about the room thinking they still have to be there. Takes me a long time to calm down, and was really thankful no one woke up when I screamed - I currently live with my daughter and family. I am originally from Northern Minnesota near Duluth. My son and daughter are close to your age, early 30s.

All for right now. Time to go get some lunch. smiley

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« Reply #306 on: Nov 13th, 2007, 8:27pm »

I was watching Animal Planet (channel 57 here in NY) and I saw how some researchers pulled a slumbering bear out of hibernation, subjected it to various tests, and then stuck a radio/tracking collar on the helpless animal and placed him back in his den. That's what an alien abduction is like, only substitue a human person for the bear. An abductee lives in a private hell questioning his/her own sanity and fearful of telling anyone - except maybe in a forum where one can express their anger/sadness/fright in anonymity and safety. The suggestion to abductees that they have an important purpose, is part of a conditioning process with the intention of making abductees more pliable and less likely to struggle when it's 2 AM and a bright light suddenly fills the room. People who refer to themselves as "Experiencers" are just rationalizing traumatic events. Perhaps it is how they cope. I do not agree with the article. True abductees do not seek attention. True abductees do not seek monetary gain. True abductees seek solace and an answer to the question, "What the heck is really going on?"
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« Reply #307 on: Nov 13th, 2007, 11:03pm »

Hey Thomas,

Good post! Fully agree with you. True abductees are not out to make money, in fact the opposite happens in many cases. Those who travel to speak at conferences, travel to help other abductees do so with money out of their own pockets, and usually end up barely getting by. Books written are not the type that end up on the "Best Sellers - Top 10 lists." They should end up there, but sadly don't.

At least with the bear's abduction, the intentions were truly benevolent and with his best interests at heart. With human abduction, they try to make us believe it is benevolent but it is nothing more than lies and deceit. There are too many cases coming to light in which the abductee has broken thru the screen memories and seen the horrors they have gone thru. What benefit to human kind is an act of rape? Not only is this being done to adults but also to children in a most brutal & terrifying fashion!

I have a memory - I believe it is a memory for when I woke I still had the pain in my side from the incident, and it wasn't anything like normal screwed up dreams. It is first time I've had a memory of reptillians, before only remembered seeing grays. What I remembered was being on a craft. A reptillian was behind me holding me by both arms. Across were two reptillians. One was behind my sister and also holding her by her arms. The third reptillian was approaching closer towards me holding a very, very large needle in one of his hands. He was telling me that if I did not quit struggling and fighting them, that they would do the procedure to my sister. So at that point I quit struggling. He came up to me and stuck the needle into my right rib cage. I could feel the needle going in and remember thinking, "That didn't hurt as bad as I thought it would." Then I woke up and strangely could still feel the spot the needle went in, but were no marks that I could see. Whether my sister was really there or not is in question as they are good at pulling that kind of stunt/trickery to get you to cooperate. Whether this really happened or was only a dream I do not know at this point, but with everything else that has happened to me I believe it really happened to me. It was also during a period that was having a lot of strange "dreams," lots of paranormal activity in my house, and lots of UFO sightings by my home.
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« Reply #308 on: Nov 14th, 2007, 06:47am »

am very sorry to hear that it appears ‘they’ haven’t buggered off yet, but going by your present bedroom being a part of the memory.. …it’s not looking good.

And I feel for all you (mainly girls) that have such repeated long term abduction experiences; as I’ve said before I’m only aware of having been three abductions (that I know of), and I like to think I was put in the ‘too hard basket’ … (when in reality, in even one event with a male they can steal enough sperm to populate a small country!, and don’t need me anymore, maybe.[..if that's their reasoning..?] )

And i think you must of somewhat muffled your ‘scream’ to a certain extent so as to not wake anyone else..
..and going by the experience that doesn’t sound like it would of been too darn easy, to say the least.

(will tonight wish for it to be the last 'visit' for you, k)

hope lunch was yummy.
..reminds me, bit peckish now myself, except it’s another evening snack for me.
(am systematically accumulating girth as we speak) grin
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« Reply #309 on: Nov 14th, 2007, 10:33am »

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Maybe I wasn't abuducted and this was a strange dream, but I woke up the next morning sore "down there". Strange.


Hi Carrie, nice to meet you.

That was a very vivid dream. Leah Haley, I believe it was, used the term "Virtual Reality Dream" for dreams such as these. Whether they are actual occurrances or screen memories given to us it is impossible to really know. The one thing I have found different between normal dreams and VRDs is how they progress. A 'normal' dream for me is made up of so many crazy things going on and normally is no rhyme nor reason for what takes place in them. The VRD seems to have a plot to it, things may appear weird and don't make sense in ways, but you are following thru a certain pattern in the dreams, almost like a plot is unfolding in these, like you are taking part in a TV drama of sorts. Most of the time I do not recognize any of the other players in these plots, though once in a while I have had some whom I recognize as an acters face or even sometimes a friends face, but majority of them are unknowns.

This event could have been a masque for something else entirely that may have taken place if it was an abduction. Outwards signs such as the soreness, possible bruising or other marks should be noted. What is a good thing to do if you feel you are an abductee is to take note of events back thru your life. Start trying to remember other strange events that stick out and have stayed with you as memories through out your life. Start keeping a journal and writing down everything you remember, check yourself over for marks on your body.

I have had times through out my life that I have experienced soreness as you have. It is a hard thing to even write about because it is an embarassing thing for a woman to have to talk about. They count on that point hoping to keep us quiet, to not talk to anyone. I have also had unexplained bruises & marks on arms and legs, etc. One time I had bruising on my upper arms that appeared to have been made by a hand holding me. My sisters also used to have lots of bruising, especially remember my older sister talking about it - she had been to the doctor for a checkup and he commented on all the bruising. She told him she had no idea where they had come from. He looked at her strangely and then off handedly said that she must be one who just bruises easily and bumps into things alot. Then asked couple questions about her marriage. She said she thought about it afterwards and thought he probably expected her of having an abusive husband. So thru this and many other things, I suspect that many of my family members have been subjected to abductions, but is not something they want to hear about and cut me off pretty good anytime I bring up the subject of UFOs.

So look back thru the years, start a journal and keep it up faithfully. It helps you sort things out. It is a first major step in finding out the truth for you. Once you start this you will be amazed at how many other things start to come to mind.

Glad you started posting. I saw in a previous post you were asking about books to read. I recommend books by The late Dr. Karla Turner and also recommend books by Leah Haley. Karla turner and her family went thru abductions, as did Leah Haley. Both did a lot of research and helped other abductees. Karla's articles and books can be found on a website dedicated to her and keeping her works out there. Her books can also be read on-line. You can find various sites for her works by just doing a search for her name. One of the sights is http://karlaturner.org

Keep posting - it helps, both you and others.

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on Nov 13th, 2007, 8:27pm, Thomas wrote:
I was watching Animal Planet (channel 57 here in NY) and I saw how some researchers pulled a slumbering bear out of hibernation, subjected it to various tests, and then stuck a radio/tracking collar on the helpless animal and placed him back in his den. That's what an alien abduction is like, only substitue a human person for the bear.


Hi Thomas, and nice to meet you. smiley Yes, and I ask myself all the time "How is this any different than an alien putting an implant into a human and the other things we do to animals?" And we have to be very careful when we do these things to kangaroos because they can easily have a heart attack because of their fear. I really feel for that bear and any other animal that has to endure this. Have you heard about the implants they're now putting in cats and dogs? They claim this will make it easier to find the owner if the animal is lost.

My friend refuses to have her two dogs and three cats tagged in this way because she says[and it really makes sense] "First it's going to be animals and then citizens."

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An abductee lives in a private hell questioning his/her own sanity and fearful of telling anyone - except maybe in a forum where one can express their anger/sadness/fright in anonymity and safety.


I agree fully; many times they endure horrendous experiences. This is why I cannot understand why some people would want to experience an abduction.

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hope lunch was yummy.
..reminds me, bit peckish now myself, except it’s another evening snack for me.
(am systematically accumulating girth as we speak)


grin Yes - lunch was great. Also made a large stock pot of homemade chicken soup in the afternoon. The smell while it is cooking drives us all crazy as you can't wait to dive into it, lol.



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am very sorry to hear that it appears ‘they’ haven’t buggered off yet, but going by your present bedroom being a part of the memory.. …it’s not looking good.

And I feel for all you (mainly girls) that have such repeated long term abduction experiences; as I’ve said before I’m only aware of having been three abductions (that I know of), and I like to think I was put in the ‘too hard basket’ … (when in reality, in even one event with a male they can steal enough sperm to populate a small country!, and don’t need me anymore, maybe.[..if that's their reasoning..?] )

And i think you must of somewhat muffled your ‘scream’ to a certain extent so as to not wake anyone else..
..and going by the experience that doesn’t sound like it would of been too darn easy, to say the least.

(will tonight wish for it to be the last 'visit' for you, k)


No - for sure they haven't stopped for me, and that was a hard thing for me to accept, but I have. I am not saying that I am just giving in and accepting what is happening to me; but that I am acknowledging it's continuance, and the fact that I will have to deal with it.

It's very possible that you may be finished, but that is something only the future will bring an answer to. I surely hope so for your sake! Really appreciate your concern for myself and other abductees. Hopefully we can continue with the posts and give each other support. I find with continuing reading of other peoples abductions that I keep finding a similarity here and there that has happened to me. Things that I never really related to an abduction. One of the most recent I read about just a couple of days ago. An abuctee was relating that just before the abduction took place, she felt this strange vibration going thru her body. I have had that happen 3 times that I can recall here in Illinois. I had put it down to my health problems and that it had to be related to my nerve centers and the fibromyalgia. Twice it happened at night, and once during the middle of the day when I was laying down to rest. So there is always something to be gleaned from continuing to read and research.

Yes, I did partially muffle my scream - and don't think it was done on purpose by me, but I was so frightened, it was like the scream was stuck in my throat and I couldn't get it to come out. Can't even begin to tell you how great the fear was - have no memory of every feeling that afraid. The fear was all consuming, took over every fiber of my body and being.

I used to be so terrified of the dark - still have my bad moments with it - but am so much better than I used to be. I think a lot of it is because I am more aware of what it happening to me, that they can most likely do it whenever possible without my ability to stop it, But I do have power on my side to help me deal with it. What has helped me thru it is my faith in God, accepting Christ as my Lord and Savior, and prayer. That has helped me overcome the fear. Many would ask or say, "Believe in God?!! How could a loving God allow or permit this to happen?" I've asked that question myself. Being a Christian does not mean that we are free from conflict, illnesses, or attack from those with evil intent. Sin and free will brought that into the world. But it does give us a source of strength to get thru it. I believe things are allowed for a specific reason. In my case I think it is to help others, to research the phenomenon and help to bring the truths out into the open. I just know that with all that has happened in my life, especially the last few years, that I would not be alive today to be typing this up. I would have taken my own life by now. Within the past dozen or so years I have gone thru so many bad times, just a few of the high lights:

husband left me for younger woman

layoffs at work

2 car accidents - totalled out my vehicle each time

bankruptcy

numerous abductions, paranormal events, ufo sightings, creature sightings

found new work - worked full time plus a part time job averaging 60 hrs per week for a bout 1-1/2 years still only making 40% of what made on my old job

increased poor health including sleep deprivation which caused a lot of blackouts, both at work at my desk and driving home late at night

Broke my ankle

Strange illness that had I not been able to get to phone to call my sister, I don't think I would have made it as became very dehydrated, dizzy/disorriented and passed out before she got there to take me to hospital.

lost home, vehicle, savings account at nil - so was my selfesteem at that point

When I gave up my home also had to give up some of my pets - that was the worst moment of all.

I was at such low points so many times - it was like being/living on a roller coaster ride. There were times I just wanted to give up. But thru all this I still knew it was happening for a reason and God would not forsake me, even in my darkest moments. That got me thru, even thru moments when thoughts of suicide would surface. But I knew I could never do that, no matter how much I wanted it all to be over and couldn't take it anymore, I knew that was not the way nor a choice, and would pray harder at those points.

Thru all this God led me from Minnesota to live with my daughter and family in Illinois. I feel I am here for a reason. It hasn't been easy. But I know I can get thru whatever comes my way because God never deserts me. And having accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior, I know that whatever happens down here - it doesn't matter, for I will live for eternity with The Lord. They can kill me physically but they will never take my soul. And we are in a constant battle between good and evil, a fight for our souls, every day. I believe that is what is imbedded deeply into the UFO phenomenon and abductions, conspiracies linked with The New World Order - One world Government. All is entwined and meshed together. One just needs to look beyond and past the deceptions to see the hidden truths.

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on Nov 14th, 2007, 12:48pm, CrazyCat wrote:
Thru all this God led me from Minnesota to live with my daughter and family in Illinois.


And thank God, Sweetie, because if you hadn't, I would never have gotten to know you. smiley

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CC, I cannot agree with you more. There are a lot of people out there that think this NWO is a joke, and that there is no struggle between good and evil, but they're in for a rude awakening. wink

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« Reply #313 on: Nov 14th, 2007, 9:02pm »

hello cc, smiley


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..strange vibration going thru her body. I have had that happen 3 times that I can recall here in Illinois. I had put it down to my health problems..


and that's just one of the problems efing 'gov denial' has given us.
we are left for ourselves to work out what is happening, what is part of the of the abductions
and what isn't.

but as you said, can at times be most helpfull to read other peoples' experiences to gain understanding.

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..Many would ask or say, "Believe in God?!! How could a loving God allow or permit this to happen?" I've asked that question myself. Being a Christian does not mean that we are free from conflict, illnesses, or attack from those with evil intent. Sin and free will brought that into the world. But it does give us a source of strength to get thru it..


personally (um, is there any other type of 'view' when discussing god wink),
i am not sure how much 'god' is allowed to "interfere" (as such) with what may well be the 'finale' of our 'learning process'.

and i love your point about how faith does not mean we are free from conflict, or evil intent; but acts as a source to help us get thru it.
(am not particularly religious myself, as i think the 'man'-made bible is distorted; but am fully accepting that there is far more to it all, and 'god' exists)

and my gosh, missy..

..i thought i was having a 'hard time'..
will wish(read pray) for a smoother path for you from now on!!!

take care cc, and ashiana, and all
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..constant battle between good and evil, a fight for our souls, every day. I believe that is what is imbedded deeply into the UFO phenomenon and abductions, conspiracies linked with The New World Order - One world Government.


wouldn't surprise me;
and sounds about right, as best i can tell.
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« Reply #314 on: Nov 14th, 2007, 10:04pm »

Hey Ash,

Thanks cheesy I am truly glad for our friendship also. Was on your site today. Haven't posted much last couple days as have been busy reading, reading, reading. Finally finished reading Masquerade of Angels. So impressed with work of Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic. Just angers me so that they caused her cancer. All because she was uncovering the truth!

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CC, I cannot agree with you more. There are a lot of people out there that think this NWO is a joke, and that there is no struggle between good and evil, but they're in for a rude awakening.


They sure are. Really need to get their eyes opened, but me thinks most of their blinders are on too tight.

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