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« Reply #510 on: Mar 15th, 2014, 02:31am »

on Oct 14th, 2012, 12:24am, Mythos wrote:
Just to "f" with us...LOL


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« Reply #511 on: Mar 16th, 2014, 01:18am »

on Mar 15th, 2014, 12:29am, Oldtimer wrote:
After six decades of abduction experience I think I can say they are real. Missing time, over night appearing and dis-appearing physical scars. Luminescence Triangles appearing under the skin. I have a huge number of experiences as conscious memories yet who knows what lies beneath.

I have through the years learned the deception, dangers presented by these beings and notice I do not call them E.T.s.


Love to hear more about your experiences...!
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« Reply #512 on: Mar 19th, 2014, 05:37am »

on Mar 16th, 2014, 01:18am, Mythos wrote:
Love to hear more about your experiences...!


My experiences start as a young child and did not slow until I passed 60 years old. I never sought any of these things. They sought me out. Seeing UFOs and being abducted as a child through adulthood was not my idea.

A friend that is a former CIA field agent came up with a counter measure of planting by hypnosis suggestions in a number of abductees in a group to wake up during abductions and making us very hard to control.

It is all very complicated and long.
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« Reply #513 on: May 13th, 2014, 01:31am »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_sightings_in_the_United_Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Taylor_incident
The Taylor incident is a good example of mass leaving prints Meliy only problem is that no one is actually interested in looking at the evidence gathered and with the advances in forensic science since the incident it could prove quite a lot but alas such as MUFON want nothing to do with real evidence.
As for setting traps, I have no recollection of being abducted from home but I have set traps when evidence I was gathering kept being removed from my home and obtained results. As for cameras both ET and human turn them off via the remote so if anyone attempting such you have to buy a camera without a remote or have the remote disabled.
Havenít a clue about astral travel.
I cannot understand anyone thinking them special with being abducted and anyone making such a claim I would label fake and attention seeking, as for human abduction there is no difference. In both scenarios you are taken against your will and is an assault against the person, glamorizing it with B/S will not help establish the truth.
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« Reply #514 on: May 13th, 2014, 10:19am »

on May 12th, 2014, 7:18pm, Meliy wrote:
Thinking on the subject of abductions, I have a few questions about the greys in particular, they seem to be one of the more popular abducting aliens.

Question 1. Grey footprints, are there any casts or pictures? Everything with mass must then have weight, and can't avoid leaving footprints. Pressure sensors under a carpet might also be a good way to trigger bedroom cameras, they'd never see it coming until it's too late.

But if someone experiences abduction without pressure sensors being triggered, or if no footprint has ever been left, could the greys have physical bodies?

Question 2. Has anyone with prior experience at self-initiated astral or out of body experiences, who would know the difference between the nature of reality in those experiences compared to physical experiences, afterwards gone on to have alien abduction experiences they consider materially real?

Question 3. For those alien abductees who consider themselves somehow chosen and special and better than average. Do you think you would feel the same if you were kidnapped by human beings and subjected to unwanted medical procedures?


IMO those are all good questions and they have been asked by some over the years.
Forensic evidence is needed to solve this enigma in any way that will satisfy science and people in general. Speculations are fun and can be insightful but they won't get us far.
The idea that the abductors, whoever they are, are operating in a different space time or on an astral level has been mentioned by ufologists and others (see Dr Mack's books), but for the most part has been rejected by the hard core pro ET crowd who want to place this phenom squarely in the physical arena only. Their answer for the stranger aspects is that the aliens have technology so far beyond us it just looks like it's 'spiritual'.
Some 'abductees' do think they are 'special' but of course others do not and this probably comes down to the mental state of the person involved.
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« Reply #515 on: Jun 19th, 2014, 12:17pm »

What do you call them Oldtimer? If not et?
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« Reply #516 on: Jun 19th, 2014, 2:30pm »

on Jun 19th, 2014, 12:17pm, carolnistri wrote:
What do you call them Oldtimer? If not et?



Carol,
I just noticed that Oldtimer hasn't posted since March 19.
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« Reply #517 on: Jul 10th, 2014, 03:40am »

Oh My ,welp hope hes ok.
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« Reply #518 on: Jul 16th, 2014, 6:00pm »

My personal opinion is they are extra dimensional not extra terrestrial. I have had occasion to experiense extra dimensional shift in a very limited way and it was extremely informative and enlightening.

I'm sorry it has taken me so long to respond. Too many irons in the fire.
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« Reply #519 on: Jul 21st, 2014, 08:35am »

on Jul 16th, 2014, 6:00pm, Oldtimer wrote:
My personal opinion is they are extra dimensional not extra terrestrial. I have had occasion to experiense extra dimensional shift in a very limited way and it was extremely informative and enlightening.

I'm sorry it has taken me so long to respond. Too many irons in the fire.


Has it ever been suggested to you that they are not from another planet/star?
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« Reply #520 on: Jul 21st, 2014, 10:49am »

on Jul 21st, 2014, 08:35am, Starhunter wrote:
Has it ever been suggested to you that they are not from another planet/star?


Exactly, there is a whole school of thought on them being Extra-Dimensional. Do a thorough websearch as there is some good information available.

I came here in hopes to warn you all of what I know is coming for you from over 60 years of conscious "alien" abduction not hypnotic recalled memories. As I have stated in other posts here, my recall of contact is 99.9% conscious memory. Your overall reception has been hostile to the message which is your right. However, I see no point in going any further in such a hostile environment since there are so few open minds here. I am an Abductee not a miracle worker and "they" have not allowed me to bring back anything but the marks and scars on my body, along with the after affects. I'm truly sorry that is not enough for you to at least give me an open hearing.

If any of you want any more information on the subjects of UFOs, or Abduction by both "Aliens" and American Government Agencies also called "MILABS". I suggest a massive Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) bombardment of the U.S. Government. There are more than enough cases to use if you care to actually get at the truth. If you can get any Lawyers to tear themselves away from defending terrorists, murderers, and Illegal aliens long enough to file the briefs. From what I see the majority of Americans just like the majority here do not really want to find out the truth because it would destroy to many of their preconceived ideas. If that changes FOIA as I will have no further comments.

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« Reply #521 on: Sep 6th, 2014, 2:39pm »

Re: Reply # 508- @ WMSM, Mythos & Hyundisonata- to those that replied to this post is why I added you. Well I have to say that this post was exactly what I was looking for ! I read what WMSM wrote and I find it very interesting!
I have been looking for other information on ufo and abduction and I think she has a interesting point. Maybe some life form is started this way, who knows, but maybe the aliens don't come about this way but maybe something else does though. I don't know but I thought it was interesting that she is " Thinking outside the Box" ! smiley I could see it - it could happen -Ya just never know !!
I have for many years now in 2 different homes felt vibrations from the ground up thru a chair or a bed & then
into me. I believe they are the electromagnetic field energy. Anyways so these vibrations made sound due to being energy so it could make a cell change into something- she said a ufo and a/or a being. As far as the cell changing into a new transformed being is understandable if it has the right conditions I suppose!! Thinking of other thing that I have read on aliens = they don't walk they glide- sounds like the levitate- that would be with energy... and
they seem to use types of energy in a different way maybe is all connected with vibrations, cells and energy. Cells make energy. I think this is a cool concept!!
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« Reply #522 on: May 4th, 2015, 09:32am »

OK,the last time anyone posted under this heading was Sept.6th.So here goes.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1786.htm
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« Reply #523 on: May 4th, 2015, 2:45pm »

I thought the article was interesting up to the point where he started mentioning Jesus and religion and the paranormal and rejecting any and all abduction scenarios with aliens or other biological interdimensional beings.
Hypothesizing demons and non organic/biological entities (metaphysical beings) is even more problematic than aliens from another dimension. There is simply no way to test such an hypothesis using science or anything remotely objective.
At this point one is resorting to religious faith/belief and the occult, and there goes any hope of any unbiased investigation and we are back to superstition and guessing.
If we are going to take the position that these abductions and other ufo related aliens are actually demons from the Biblical world then we might as well all quit ufo forums and start attending our local fundamentalist churches.
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« Reply #524 on: May 5th, 2015, 07:19am »

lets out big sigh...
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