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« Reply #60 on: Jul 28th, 2003, 12:09pm »

The following was received in meditation today;

The planet Earth is sick. It has become unstable. We have raped the land, polluted the oceans and rivers and contaminated the air. It is not only our physical actions that have injured this planet but it is also our thoughts that have disrupted the atmosphere and unbalanced our magnetic fields.
Why can't we understand that we are responsible for the care and maintenance of this planet? We are the caretakers. We are the guardians.

We are in the “end days”. Nature has warned us so many times that we were causing harm, but we did not listen. The end of this civilization will not come from atomic wars or biological weapons. It will be the result of Nature unleashing her furies. The planet Earth will be the battlefield and everything that breathes or lives will be the casualties.

Get the house of your mind in order. Prepare yourselves for what will happen within the next 25 years. Change your value system. Respect life and the environment for living.

Angel UFOs will evacuate millions of people in “ether ships” which are capable of transporting millions of Souls inter- dimensionally. This will be a new EXODUS. The Souls that have been “abducted” will be taken off this planet because they have been genetically altered and they are contributors to a new hybrid race. They shall be taken to the location of their new race. Other Souls will be “picked up” according to their individual evolutionary history.

This is not a prophecy of “doom”, but rather a message of Hope.





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« Reply #61 on: Dec 29th, 2003, 10:26pm »

I don't believe alien abductions happen in the external world. Most of them anway.

Of the ones that do sound like they really happened, a lot of the things the aliens are described as doing sounds a lot more like someone experimenting with how to modify and control another's behavior. And that tells me it's something military.

Makes me wish it was aliens.
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« Reply #62 on: Dec 29th, 2003, 11:39pm »

I think you're giving the military too much credit wink. But I've always wondered, who owns the military? Curious what u mean by they only happen in the "external world."
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« Reply #63 on: Dec 30th, 2003, 1:25pm »

on Dec 29th, 2003, 11:39pm, minitrue wrote:
I think you're giving the military too much credit wink.


Oh, I can guarantee you that I am not. When the atom bomb was first developed a lot of people didn't believe such a weapon could ever be invented.

Some of the things the military and intelligence communities invented but now are released to the public should demonstrate that the gov't has an intense interest in psychism and mind control.

Did you know that there is a device--a headband--that you don and it is hooked to a computer and that computer is hooked to a bank of synthesizers and that some people have trained themselves to play those synths without touching them or preprogramming them?

They have learned to use this headband which converts brainwaves into MIDI commands. Not everyone can use it but some people can. Where did this come from? The CIA. They had it for years before releasing it to the public. That means it's obsolete and that they don't use it anymore. That also means they have something much better now. It sure sounds to me like a device invented to perhaps develop one's "psychic" powers if there be such powers.

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The defense industry basically. Huge expenditures in R&D. Endless supply of guinea pigs.

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« Reply #64 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 10:03am »

on Dec 30th, 2003, 1:25pm, meacon wrote:
Did you know that there is a device--a headband--that you don and it is hooked to a computer and that computer is hooked to a bank of synthesizers and that some people have trained themselves to play those synths without touching them or preprogramming them?

They have learned to use this headband which converts brainwaves into MIDI commands. Not everyone can use it but some people can. Where did this come from? The CIA. They had it for years before releasing it to the public. That means it's obsolete and that they don't use it anymore. That also means they have something much better now. It sure sounds to me like a device invented to perhaps develop one's "psychic" powers if there be such powers.


So where can I buy that? I'm a guitar and bass man but I would love to experiment w/ that? It would be nice to record riffs while lying in bed. I figured I'd ask u b4 I start posting on all my fav music forums and look crazy in the process.

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The defense industry basically. Huge expenditures in R&D. Endless supply of guinea pigs.


So Defense Industry CEOs rule the world? I thought Bill Gates ruled the world. But then again the internet was first developed by the military.
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« Reply #65 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 5:39pm »

U mean this meacon ...

http://www.adaptivation.com/cyberlink_interface.htm

I already went a thousand in debt buying my hd multi track recorder so at $2000 it's def outta the question.
Anyway, I don't have perfect pitch but I imagine Mozart, the greatest of them all, would've had a lotta fun w/ that thing.
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« Reply #66 on: Dec 31st, 2003, 9:39pm »

You make the military more intelligent than they really are. Mind control devices have existed for over 40 years. So what else's new? DOD finances a lot of projects including black ops but they do not have the technology or capability of being UFOs who abduct people. They are still trying to figure out how to operate their captured UFOs. Their metallurgy knowledge and their aerodynamic knowledge and their energy propulsion knowledge is too primitive. They are almost as funny as the keystone cops.
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« Reply #67 on: Jan 8th, 2004, 6:47pm »

on Dec 31st, 2003, 5:39pm, minitrue wrote:
U mean this meacon ...

http://www.adaptivation.com/cyberlink_interface.htm

I already went a thousand in debt buying my hd multi track recorder so at $2000 it's def outta the question.
Anyway, I don't have perfect pitch but I imagine Mozart, the greatest of them all, would've had a lotta fun w/ that thing.


That seems to be a version of it. And remember, I read about this YEARS ago so even this technology is no longer new. It's old even by non-National Security standards.

According to one of the articles I read, the user has a feeling of deep euphoria after composing and performing with it. So it does indeed seem to be something that changes the very way we think and feel.

And remember, it was developed by the CIA who had it for years without you or I knowing and if we'd heard about it back then, we might have insisted that humans just can't build stuff like that.

But they can and they do. And they don't necessarily tell you about it.
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« Reply #68 on: Jan 8th, 2004, 6:50pm »

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You make the military more intelligent than they really are.


No, actually I don’t. The military has some EXTREMELY smart and fiercely loyal people working for them. And I refer specifically to military intelligence people not the average grunt like I was.

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Mind control devices have existed for over 40 years. So what else's new?


So you blow it off because they’ve been doing it for 40 yearshuh? Such assertions if true should be a cause for concern!! Great concern! After 40 years, what technology do you think they might have at their disposal? How do you defend yourself from it when you don’t even know what it is? Why do you UFO buffs not understand how serious it is if the govt is responsible for implanting the alien abduction scenario in the public mind? That’s a FAR MORE serious matter than it if really was aliens. I wish that’s all it was.

You folks had better quit putting all your eggs in one basket. If you have to drop that basket, you lose everything. Start diversifying so you can be properly prepared.

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DOD finances a lot of projects including black ops but they do not have the technology or capability of being UFOs who abduct people.


They don’t? And how do you know this? How are you privy to their secrets?

Let me tell you a true story. In the late 60s, when I was a boy, I was sitting on my porch with a friend in the evening. I noticed a very bright star to the west. I pointed it out to my friend but he joked about it. About 15 seconds later, I looked at the star again and it was even brighter now. I called his attention to it and before he could say anything, this star suddenly began a series of tremendously steep dives over and over again. There was no sound.

I called my father and my older brother, who was in college at the time, out to look at it. They too saw it diving. We watched it for about 4 hours. In fact, when we went in the house for the night, it was still up there. Was it military? Had to be. We only lived a couple of miles from Selfridge AFB (now ANGB). The object was in plain sight of Selfridge. How could they not know it was up there? Yet, they showed no interest in the object whatsoever.

The thing was, what I saw was a classic foo-fighter of WW2. Moreover, I could not shake the impression that what I saw was being remotely guided rather than being manned. No doubt, someone at Selfridge was running a test on this craft – putting it through maneuvers. Foo-fighters were around since the 40s at least. I saw one in the 60s and it was almost certainly a military machine. Sounds to me like they’re a lot smarter than you give them credit for.

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I doubt there are any captured UFOs—at least of an ET variety. I think the govt know how to operate their own UFOs quite well.

As for abducting people in UFOs, in all likelihood, they don’t. The UFO is remotely-guided to make people think it’s coming for them – that’s the funny light people always describe following them just before an abduction episode. After this, they are hypnotized in some manner and experimented on and various scenarios planted in their minds.

Exactly where this takes place, I don’t know. Probably right where they are standing, which is why deserted roads and what not are chosen. All you have to do is read the transcripts of the Hill case to see how unreal Barney Hill’s encounter was. He doesn’t react like a man in a real situation, he reacts like a man in a dream because, in essence, he was.

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Their metallurgy knowledge and their aerodynamic knowledge and their energy propulsion knowledge is too primitive. They are almost as funny as the keystone cops. What do you think?


I think you are extremely naďve and you’d better educate yourself about who and what it is you are dealing with. You are seriously underestimating your enemy and when you do that – you lose. I’d prefer that you not drag me with you down this little primrose path you’ve chosen. Unfortunately, for every person who believes we are being set up by our own govt, there’s at least a thousand who believe in ET and the more unusual the sighting, the more they believe it was ET.

Gotta hand it to the intelligence community. Their cover is perfect. I wouldn’t have given it a snowball’s chance in hell but it has succeeded admirably.
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« Reply #69 on: Jan 28th, 2004, 11:51pm »

Thanks guys some very good points.

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« Reply #70 on: Jan 29th, 2004, 09:28am »

What an exciting exchange. When I say that the best of our technology is primitive allow me to clarify. We depend upon electricity as a main energy source. We are using rocket propulsion for our spacecraft with the physics concept that for every action there is an equal reaction. We cannot manipulate time or space or gravity as yet. We cannot see the future. We are limited by the physical laws of the planet Earth. We cannot control the minds of people or erase their conscious memory. We cannot travel distances of light-years or travel interdimensionally. We are susceptible to sickness, decay and death.

I do not believe that the UFOs have these limitations.
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« Reply #71 on: Mar 27th, 2004, 6:02pm »

Meacon, you make a very interesting argument. When you say that we should know our enemy. Who is our enemy? Is our enemy the u.f.o.s who appear peacefully in our skies and consistently make jackasses out of the military? Or is it the military who consistently lies and suppresses and distorts the truth and tries to make fools of us?
The UFOs have evaded fighter plane attacks, dodged "star wars" missiles and have suffered the insults of being called "weather balloons", swamp gas and the planet Venus. In response they have caused and controlled a power blackout in New York involving millions of people without a single fatality and more recently demonstrated their awesome power by magnetically shutting off all the missiles in a missiles silo. Who is the enemy? I hope I have given you something to think about.

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« Reply #72 on: Apr 3rd, 2004, 05:32am »

Yes an excellent question Irwyn. Just who are our enemies. Thats one to sort out. Personally I think that all human beings are thier own worst enemies. Most of the time we only believe ourselves anyway. There`s conspiracy just about oozing from every pore for some. Irwyn I think that the 2 examples of ufo`s powers at the bottom of your post can only be seen from your perspective if people see these the same way as you do. Me personally, I think it was just a glitch on both occasions and I cannot contribute ufo`s as the cause for these incidents. If they were ufo`s that caused these then what were they trying to say. With the missle silo one It would be obvious but what about the electricity stunt, what was the purpose behind that or was it just the craft itself absorbing our energy as it passed over the plant, or do yourself have another explanation for them. I`d be intrestes to hear them smiley.
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« Reply #73 on: Apr 9th, 2004, 6:01pm »

To rob, I learned from experience of dealing with UFOs that they never do only one thing. They're capable of performing a multitude of meanings and purposes in any act that they perform. The Niagara power grid blackout is a prime example.
Yes, they drained the power to create the blackout but they were also interested in observing the reaction of millions of people in a crisis of this magnitude. Don't forget, they are researchers and experimenters. This was also a demonstration of how they could create a major catastrophe and still control the millions of people involved as well as the interactions with the environment. This was a major project. If you are responsible for the human race and have to intervene from time to time in their evolution and history, then it behooves you to study your subjects.

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« Reply #74 on: Jun 6th, 2004, 6:11pm »

Hi. I'm new. I have been abducted many times, starting when I was about 5. I recently have found out my daughter, 25, is having experiences. I can only remember fragments. I don't have the feeling of it being beneficial or damaging, I myself have been pretty dysfuctional in some ways over the years, but who isn't. My daughter is very well adjusted I think. But who knows, maybe the benefits remain to be seen at a later date. My question is how can I retrieve more of the memories on my own, or where can I get some affordable help? I can't even really talk about this to anyone, I would even like to talk to other abductees and maybe gain some insights to this thing. Thankyou. I love this site. Information is always a good thing. One thing, I've always believed that anything secret has to be bad, or why would it be secret? Child molesters always tell their victims not to tell. It's all so strange, and so hard to believe. Incidentaly, I and my daughter have alot of paranormal stuff happen, which is how I came to realize my "dreams" may be more. Also, I have had alot of bruises that I know I didn't do. Ones that matched what that Ed Walters guy said he found on the bridge of his nose. I had not read anywhere about bruising that was similar to mine and my daughter's. Does anyone have any idea of abductee support groups or anything of that natured? Thanks.
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