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« Reply #135 on: May 13th, 2011, 8:56pm »

So glad to know. Surely you have known many silly things.
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« Reply #136 on: May 13th, 2011, 10:19pm »

<<< The idea that scientists (and I assume this is referring to mainstream ones..) are somehow scared or would be upset in some way by the actual existence of space aliens is simply one of the silliest things I have ever heard from 'bleevers'. It's preposterous and indicative of the lack of clear headed thinking from the ET crowd. >>>

As the quote stated this is from a Brookings Institute paper on the possible effects of ET contact on various aspects of human activities.
I found it interesting in that, as you stated, I had always assumed the opposite would be the case.
But then if we are correct, and that is the case, why isn't main stream science looking into the UFO question?
If it is such a desirable possibility then why are they avoiding looking at it?
Unless, perhaps, we overestimate how badly they might want to see such things found.
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« Reply #137 on: May 13th, 2011, 10:24pm »

Who cares!
What comes, comes. We sincerely hope you stand firmly in its way.

Have a nice day.
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« Reply #138 on: May 14th, 2011, 12:50pm »

on May 13th, 2011, 10:19pm, skizicks wrote:
<<< The idea that scientists (and I assume this is referring to mainstream ones..) are somehow scared or would be upset in some way by the actual existence of space aliens is simply one of the silliest things I have ever heard from 'bleevers'. It's preposterous and indicative of the lack of clear headed thinking from the ET crowd. >>>

As the quote stated this is from a Brookings Institute paper on the possible effects of ET contact on various aspects of human activities.
I found it interesting in that, as you stated, I had always assumed the opposite would be the case.
But then if we are correct, and that is the case, why isn't main stream science looking into the UFO question?
If it is such a desirable possibility then why are they avoiding looking at it?
Unless, perhaps, we overestimate how badly they might want to see such things found.


I firmly believe it's related to what has been called the 'giggle factor' and tenure/credibility issues. Very few scientist want to risk losing their standing if it turms out they are wrong and there is nothing to the ET idea.
But some like Dr Vallee and his Invisible College have done work discreetly and if they turn up anything interesting I'm sure they will publically disclose it.
Peter Sturrock wrote a book revisiting some ufo data and important cases and came to the conclusion that more scientists should get involved yet how many publically did? He apparently didn't even follow his own advice since he has released nothing either since that time. I honestly think this is more about peer status, etc than anything else. IMO there's no conspiracy of silence or campaign to stop them but simply self-interest issues.
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« Reply #139 on: May 14th, 2011, 12:54pm »

on May 13th, 2011, 8:56pm, LEVIATHAN wrote:
So glad to know. Surely you have known many silly things.
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Not sure who you are responding too but one of the silliest things I have known recently....is you.

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« Reply #140 on: May 14th, 2011, 1:19pm »

Have you looked in the mirror. Do so, it want be that hard.
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« Reply #141 on: May 14th, 2011, 9:31pm »

If one keeps in mind, which I should have pointed out and for which I apologize, that the study came out in the early 1960s, you see the possible reasoning.
When the study was done man had yet to fly in space. In the context of the times it might be possible to see where science would be "uncomfortable" with ET contact.
Yet the mainstream of science, even today, backs away from an open discussion of the UFO question. If there are scientists doing any real substantive research into UFOs and the related areas the group working with the MUFON reports seems to be the only ones up front about it. And that collapsed half way through due to infighting.
I am in agreement with you that there are probably some doing research on the side, quietly, and keeping it to themselves. And I wish them luck.
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« Reply #142 on: May 15th, 2011, 2:23pm »

Some know and for many reasons they are afraid to do anything, but keep quiet, very quiet. You would never understand or accept this and you know it.
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« Reply #143 on: Jun 8th, 2013, 1:24pm »

to hide and to cover up what happening hurts everyone.
Yes it would be chaos for a while if they come forth with the truth yet that would settle down.
Yet nothing that occur during that time compare to what happen daily on this planet.
Yes the power of the elite wouldn't have the power there custom to yet i doubt they will be dethrone.
There more power for them to release all the information yet there afraid they would lose power so they keep silent.
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« Reply #144 on: Mar 14th, 2014, 11:23pm »

Well with my 60+ years of contact experience with various non-humans I have come to the conclusion they are extra-dimensional not extra-terrestrial for many reasons. All the ones I have had contact with have evil intent toward humankind out of their own communications so I take them at their word.

I have never sought out any form of sighting or contact yet contact is my earliest memory from childhood. My last conscious contact was shortly after I turned 60.

My wife's father is one of the men that took gun camera photos for the Army Air Corps and later on for the Air Force as a pilot assigned to photo UFOs for a time frame of his service.

My U.S. Army service was as an Air Defense Officer and was debriefed by Project Blue Book during 1972 despite all activity under its auspices were supposed to have ceased in January 1970.

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« Reply #145 on: Jul 15th, 2014, 10:02am »

So,wheres Mark hes got some interesting posts here,Old Timer yeah,glad your ok.Now have you written on Casebook about your many many abductions?If so where can I start reading them?
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« Reply #146 on: Jul 15th, 2014, 3:48pm »

I don't write much but if you have a question I will answer it as best I can.
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« Reply #147 on: Jul 15th, 2014, 5:36pm »

Hey Oldtimer,

I thought I was the only member who is over 60 years of age, so I am really happy to know there are other members who are over 60.

My story is like yours, with my first UFO experience was when I was in the 4th grade of school.

I too think we are dealing with inter-dimensional people and events.

Inter-dimensional seems to fit all that has happen to me.

My first abduction, in which the OZ EFFECT happened is just really hard to explain to people what it felt like.

My daughter had a taste of the OZ EFFECT a few years ago when a friend and her were having coffee out side a coffee shop, and a dark, black cloud caused a "time wrinkle"

All the car alarms in the parking lot went off, and her co-work said "what the h--- was that".



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« Reply #148 on: Jul 15th, 2014, 9:39pm »

Where were you stationed in "72 Oldtimer ?
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« Reply #149 on: Jul 15th, 2014, 10:24pm »

on Jul 15th, 2014, 9:39pm, skizicks wrote:
Where were you stationed in "72 Oldtimer ?


Okinawa

Maybe your "time wrinkle" is similar to my "dimensional wave" effect. I got caught in one once when a craft was passing over my home near the Johnson Space Center. I could clearly see the craft but others could not apparently. Neither could they see or hear me for a time as I could not make contact with them to note the rather large UFO with a large field surrounding it flying in full daylight within a couple of miles of the Manned Space Center without making a stir. I observed a slight shimmer in the air between me and everyone. I could see and hear them yet I was completely oblivious to them until the wave disipated. I did not try to touch anyone but I actually got in one guys face and yelled at him. He neither heard nor saw me.

Its to bad none of the universities ever try to get us to decribe what we observe to give them clues but then they don't want to study swamp gas. The head of the Biology Department wanted me to change majors because I set the curve that year (4.0) and because when she started teaching us genetics for some reason it just seemed easy to me like simple addition, She did not believe it at first as her Biology majors were struggling with it so she kept giving me more complicated problems but I could work them all as a sophomore. She did her best to try to get me to change to a biology major but I told her I would never be accepted without telling her the real reason why. One, I had been tampered with, and two I owed my soul to ROTC where I had been selected into a special Counter-Insurgency Program run by the Army Green Berets which in turn had just earned me a full 2 Year Military Scholarship for my last two years in College. I did not want to jeopardize that as I was working my way (as in having to pay my own tuition, room and board) through college, My parents could not afford to send me. Plus how do you explain to a university head of department non-humans have been tampering with the merchandise so that you understand genetics? You don't because they do not approach the subject with an open scientific mind but with a closed primitive minded, I do not want to know view.

So I went with the military. I could never have went with biology because if I started to have to explain why I came to some of my easily deduced answers then my rational would not be even considered. They would never consider how such a person with my background could come up with the answers so easily. I would either have to say it was just self-evident to me or explain why it was and I knew they would not want to hear that answer.The answer simply was not acceptable therefore it would not be accepted and I new it.

Growing up with what I have I had learned at an early age the dangers of sharing too much information. I"m sure there are some great scientists today that learned to hide. I'm just to honest and it has gotten me into trouble in this world's society many times. Refusing to lie and hide. It got me into trouble in the U,S. Army. No, I did tell them about "Them"; a sin of omission. But some in the military found out anyway. I refused to steal for superior officers and I made the mistake of turning in one that was stealing tens of thousands of dollars from the U.S. Army. Little did I know the Army did not want to know. Its hard for an honest man to live among liars and thieves as it makes them very uncomfortable. My Brigade Commander called me into his office an told me he was going to get me killed an he almost did.

Long story short, I am still alive much to the chagrin of one Lt. Col. Charles House. I have been taken many more times through my lifetime surviving all my friends and relatives that have experienced "contact" for some reason. I try to help those who come to me in trauma or shock when they discover their world is not what they thought it was as best I can. I warn those who will listen to prepare for what is to come.




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