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« Reply #15 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 11:28am »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 11:25am, creolelady wrote:
Oh, let's not go there!


I agree! Quick! Turn the ship around smiley!
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 11:40am »

Run Forrest Run!
Ok back to the topic at er umm, hand. shocked
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 3:04pm »

It is wrriten that at the fall of man, the animals changed too. The animals are now held accountable. What this means exactly I'm not too certain, but that is what is said. Perhaps this does mean they have souls or at this time, gained a bit of 'awareness' as well. This can certainly be debated.

Also, humans have dominion of this planet and the animals are, in a sense, ours, along with the plants and etc. This does not mean they are ours to torutre and be cruel to, it is more like a responsibility. We are not the creators of them but the caretakers so to speak.

On ET and its relation concerning this; well, many possibilities come to mind.

What if some are here for our water resources. If we now are on the verge of catasrophic self-destruction [nuke war, etc] then perhaps they may step in to prevent this, even if it is deemed to do such will result in the erradication of our very violent species, to save the planet. If some ET are here for a vital resource, then this could be possbile. Maybe they don't want to conquer us. maybe it's not about us, we just happen to be the obstacle in the way.

Another possibility could be that they have been behind the scenes manipulating us through various means, and that their influence is so involved in our daily lives for so long, it just doesn't appear 'alien' to us. When we think alien, we think out of this world and unfamiliar, but that doesn't mean that just because we were born into a world well influenced, that it could actually be some ET motivated.

The possibilities are almost endless. If we consider more than one ET and possible motvies those possibilites increase to almost infinite.

Although I think that some ET races have become more spiritually evolved than others. The spiritually evolved races may all co-exist with one another through means of telepathy, thus creating a much less corupted society for them and perhaps they may just be able to eliminate, or at least considerably minimize, one or two from doing harmful things, because they'd be on it like white on rice [by means of telepathy].

Other races may be more savage and exist in hierarchal type society. This is the dangerous kind, if they so exist. Likely highly evolved in technology, but not highly evolved in the spirit, thus leaves open for corruption and evil and all that comes with it. More of a chance for a few renegades to come to a place like Earth and cause some real damage. We mistake it for them all, etc etc. The worst scenerio IMO.

Just a few suggestions. smiley
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 3:15pm »

Some excellent points, Nephilim. I've heard others speculate about the possibility that water might play some key role. I don't know what the percentages are these days, but I remember years ago that UFO's appeared more frequently around water, so that makes sense. Perhaps this is a resource that's either vanished or is in short supply on their home planet. If global warming keeps picking up speed the way it seems to be, we may end up with too much of a good thing!

One thing I've often thought felt right on some level is the possibility that some of these visitors might be "us" from the future. If the universe has holographic aspects and there's anything to worm holes and folding time, this might not be such a wild idea. Lets say that at some point in our future we finally do master time travel, I think that it would be a "no brainer" to want to go back in history. Maybe even to help avert a disaster. Just imagining here smiley.
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 3:22pm »

Say! That is exactly what a good friend of mine think! They are us highly evolved from the future.

He notes things like 4 fingers. If you place your hand up all fingers stretched out, you can see how our pinkies are much smaller than the other fingers. This is evolution at work. The more and more we use computers and such, the more robotics take over manual labor, the less we need that last finger. His theory is that they have evolved to the state of simply not having the pinky anymore. This is what led him to think about that possibility. Yes, he is a scientist grin
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« Reply #20 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 4:08pm »

Your friend might be right, at least in regard to some of these beings. If we keep going along as we are in terms of the environment and giant leaps in technology - this could almost be us in a few thousand years (or less). We don't look much like Neanderthals or apes these days, and how long did that take?

Large craniums - "expanded" intelligence

Shielded eyes - adaptation, hyper photo-sensitivity to at least a part of the light spectrum (due to the depletion of the ozone layer)

"Atrophied"* ears - adaptation, telepathy is the primary means of communication

"Atrophied" oral cavity- adaptation, not for food intake

Minimal olfactory structure - much of our external "nose" is a filter, not required for smell (taste and smell are linked senses, see above)

Asexual - cloning has replaced the need for reproduction by mating

No "waste" - nutrients absorbed through the skin, waste released through the skin, think: plants, photosynthesis

You already noted the hand / finger adaptation - everything is touch screen!

* atrophied, wasted, diminished
(of an organ or body part) diminished in size or strength as a result of disease or injury or lack of use.
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 5:43pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 4:08pm, MarkM wrote:
Your friend might be right, at least in regard to some of these beings. If we keep going along as we are in terms of the environment and giant leaps in technology - this could almost be us in a few thousand years (or less). We don't look much like Neanderthals or apes these days, and how long did that take?

Large craniums - "expanded" intelligence

Shielded eyes - adaptation, hyper photo-sensitivity to at least a part of the light spectrum (due to the depletion of the ozone layer)

"Atrophied"* ears - adaptation, telepathy is the primary means of communication

"Atrophied" oral cavity- adaptation, not for food intake

Minimal olfactory structure - much of our external "nose" is a filter, not required for smell (taste and smell are linked senses, see above)

Asexual - cloning has replaced the need for reproduction by mating

No "waste" - nutrients absorbed through the skin, waste released through the skin, think: plants, photosynthesis

You already noted the hand / finger adaptation - everything is touch screen!

* atrophied, wasted, diminished
(of an organ or body part) diminished in size or strength as a result of disease or injury or lack of use.


Man... that doesn't sound like any fun lol can't enjoy food, smell, sounds or sexhuh Can't even poop?

(Also... I have always thought that the grey's pasty color and big eyes meant they lived in caves or in dark places.)
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 5:56pm »


I believe, based on the classified information that I have garnered, the USSA-Coverment has downed about 75 spacecraft, killing ALL the occupants.

They have IMPRISONED and INTERROGATED TO DEATH any ET that happened to survive a crash.

They have allowed Dracos and Greys to prey on and eat about a million humans a year.

They have protected the secrecy of parasitic ETs and they have adopted the Draco ideology of top-down hierarchies in which the people who do the work are treated very badly and have no option to consent or not consent to their experience.

In short, the USSA-Federal Coverment is a tyrannical, criminal regime that has rigged the 2000 and 200 elections, assassinated dissidents and tortured and murdered innocents in order to get and stay in power; they have pandered to the Idle Rich and their egoic desire for immortality.

Until and unless the so-called "leaders" of this regime are brought to Justice, nothing else is going to change.

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« Reply #23 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 5:56pm »

LOL!!! It does sound pretty dismal doesn't it. A huge motivation to come back through time and change it wink!

Well, it's challenging to try to come up with possibilities. It will probably turn out to be something we never even imagined. We're limited in our "visionary" capabilities by what we can imagine and it's impossible to imagine something so mysterious.

That made sense when I thought it, but it's an awkward read grin
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 6:08pm »

While I totally respect your opinion, Shechaiyah, and have no idea where your facts come from, I have to say that I can't relate to at least 50% of those points. It would take an awful lot to convince me that aliens are eating a million people a year.

I don't want to get into a debate with you on it - those are your beliefs. Personally, I'm not inclined to do anything that strengthens darkness and lends power to fear, it's just not a part of who I am. We all have to weigh what life has shown us and choose our paths accordingly. Truth is what the heart feels is right and the soul is at peace with. No ones journey is wrong as long as it's their own.
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« Reply #25 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 7:05pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 5:56pm, Shechaiyah wrote:
I believe, based on the classified information that I have garnered, the USSA-Coverment has downed about 75 spacecraft, killing ALL the occupants.

They have IMPRISONED and INTERROGATED TO DEATH any ET that happened to survive a crash.

They have allowed Dracos and Greys to prey on and eat about a million humans a year.


Just Curious! Why would they Imprison, Interrogate and kill all occupants in a downed spacecraft, YET allow the aliens to an all you can eat human buffet? I hope you can shed some light on that. It sounds like a contradiction to me.
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« Reply #26 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 7:31pm »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 4:08pm, MarkM wrote:
Large craniums - "expanded" intelligence

Hand / finger adaptation - everything is touch screen!

When I was younger I often used to think that UFO’s are time travellers from the future, for some reason not so much now. But I used to think that if they were it would be on a strict proviso of, “Look, but don’t touch.”

You know like we go on holiday, they could come back and view in, “Real time” major and historic events from the history of mankind.

We are all aware of sci-fi films where, “Tampering” with the past has often unintentional and fatal repercussions for the future (apart from <back to the future> Biff and his sports almanac of course!!)

But as for the fingers, I’m not so sure, it would blow the, “Opposable thumb” theory completely out of the water. I often thought about the next great evolutionary leap and thought there were two main ways in which we could improve greatly (physically, not emotionally) and these were by telepathy/telekinesis and the ability to grow back severed (or injured) limbs, sort of like a lizard grows back its tail.

But I also used to think that when you viewed our solar system, it was remarkably like an atom, you know protons and electrons. And what if our Solar system was just one of billions and billions of atoms in something really mundane and insignificant, sort of like the MIB film when the cat has a galaxy on its collar.

As a result I try not to think too much these days, as you can probably tell by the content of this post!! grin
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« Reply #27 on: Jul 30th, 2007, 7:48pm »

I like the way you think!

I'd agree with you on the future "code of conduct" - if we kept changing it, it would never be.

I think it's more likely that we share a genetic link with the more prevalent ET's. This was something that I was "shown" years ago (long story). I do believe that DNA is at the heart of this and that we have been genetically engineered to some extent. So, I guess they could be us at least in part, or vise versa. I'm not implying that they're God, not at all. If all life stems from the same source energy (be that God or whatever you're comfortable with) then we share that commonality right off the bat. We're messing with gene manipulation now, mostly with breeding better livestock, show animals, eliminating birth defects, cloning, etc. A more technologically advanced culture may have helped our evolution along at some point. Perhaps it still is.
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« Reply #28 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 12:28am »

on Jul 30th, 2007, 7:05pm, GForce wrote:
Just Curious! Why would they Imprison, Interrogate and kill all occupants in a downed spacecraft--


-- YET allow the aliens to an all you can eat human buffet?

I hope you can shed some light on that. It sounds like a contradiction to me.


Our Coverment has a vested interest in back-engineering whatever technology we can get from ETs. They pump any living ETs for information.

http://www.alienvideo.net/video-alien-interview.php video

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/etview.html discuss

Humans as food:

Under the terms of the 1954 Greada Treaty signed by Eisenhower, the Greys were allowed to "take" x number of humans for experimentation per year.

http://www.informantnews.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=188

http://www.klaaskids.org/pg-mc-mcstatistics.htm

http://uk.missingkids.com/

In the US, the number of disappeared kids is running half a million a year; from the UK, 70,000.

You think, I think this is funny?

I'm horrified. And the Greys are not at the bottom of it. They're under the control of the Orion Group, which takes its orders from the Alpha Draco. So, there's an alliance of parasites, and so, what do we do now?

This is why I find the drones particularly distressing.

Just in case you wondered why they upset me so much.

Shech--

PS--Just went over to GLP and here's their new thread on the problem

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=418211&mpage=1&showdate=7/31/07&forum=1




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« Reply #29 on: Jul 31st, 2007, 08:33am »

You're obviously strong in your convictions. I don't agree that what you've provided establishes fact and the allegations made are way too serious to demand anything less than indisputable evidence. Stories that were never confirmed and are passed along and embellished over the years aren't enough for me. Theories, conjecture, and personal bias don't make the case.

You might want to use extreme caution when linking missing children with ravenous ET's. The majority of missing children are taken by family members following bitter custody battles. It seems that every day children turn up years later after having suffered at the hands of their very human captors. Add to that the rise in child murders - often times by their own parents - and we have an Earthly epidemic of violence toward children that's far more demanding of our attention.

As to how we may or may not treat alien guests, again, I have no hard evidence in either direction. I will tell you one thing - if the alien interrogation footage is genuine, my heart goes out to the ET. That's one of the saddest few minutes of film footage that I've ever seen.

Again, I think it comes down to personal convictions here. Since I don't feel the need to convert anybody, I'm OK with that smiley.

Some day the truth will be revealed and those who were right will know it. Those who weren't will learn something. In the meantime, I just don't personally believe that everything bad that happens on our planet and in our society is interwoven with an alien conspiracy. At some point we have to take responsibility for our own actions.
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