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« Reply #75 on: Feb 17th, 2008, 3:01pm »

howdy smiley as per other posts on area51 contact been made?
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« Reply #76 on: Feb 21st, 2008, 04:26am »

You've made some very interetsing points and statements in your post, Mark

A lot of these questions I wondered about a lot before.

It's a very very fair point that humans scarififice more cows a week than aliens have done, ever. I admit I'm guilty of eating it. Being a chef stroke vcatyeriong manager I have to deal with raw meat (eeeuwwww) every day. I don't agree with the way animals re slaughtered however I think it should be done as quickly as painlessly as possible. One point I became a begetaraian but I didn't do it prioperky and almost developed anemia. And i missed my spagetti bolognese and it wont stop cows being slaughtered for meat

However, there's no arguing with the fact that aliens (if it IS aliens amd not letting their mouths and imaginations doing some pretty serious flapping) have done some undeniably evil things. You only have to look at stuff like the De Silva case (man sees aliens, aliens come back threatening to kill him, he walks into the crafts in front of his son and dispeapprs forever) and a case that recent;y shocked me to the core - it was so bad I didn't even dare tell my friends the details of it in case it upset them as well. I still can't talk or read about it myself

So yes some of the aliens are evil but it seems scarier because of the pure fact is that they're unknown. And humans fear that, it is in our nature

Okay, it appears most accidents as a result of alien contact and abductions are accidental. Animals are sometimes killed by anti gravity fields. I readof one case where a man was abducted and the trauma caused a heart attack (he was old). It wasn't deliberate, it was just too muhc for the man to take. The aliens left him somewhere where he'd be found

Ovbiously, being visited by UFOs before has made me a trifle wary of the,. Wbhich is bizarre - when i was akid they came so close to the windows that I could have reached out and touched them. Now, I see them occasionally but they#'re very high up in the sky - I feel they know i'm afraid and are still wanting to do it, but are doing it in a way as if they're trying not to scare me. I also feel suich incredible calm, as well as an overwhelm,ing urge to look up. Once I saw one flying up ahead of me and I continued walking the same way as it

They are also clearm hoiwever. I never, ever saw them on a Friday night, where tehre's no work the next day and I can go out and par-tay - they know if they appear when I'm drunk I'd doubt my senses

It's afterwards I fret a little bit, but it's better than it was - although saying that I looked out my skylight window and saw a bright light and almost jumped out of my skin last night. Yes, it was the moon :rolleyes

I think some aliens come with the intention of saving that. But the problem is, we have to do it. The aliens can't invade everyone in goos will, because there'd be people going berserk, cars would be crashing, people wouild be shooting at them, they'd shoot back and it would all end in tears. They need to do it a bit at a time, by warning individuals

There are reports of aliens doing good things - once case springs to mind. They starte doff mutilating cows, but when they left the herds alone and approached the farmer, he was nervous. The aliens told him to drill a well. Now, geoligists told him he was nuts - they assumed there was solid rock all the way down, but they persued the task regardless. Soon, gallons of pure water were streaking through in seconds

People have been warened that if we don't stop warring and ruining the environment the end of the world would be oremature. Stuff that people already know, but are too ignorant to think about - the aliens surely know this, that we are controlled by ignorant governments who really only care how much money is going inrto their pockets

I'm a calm person and should they approach and say what they need to say, chances are I'd forget for a minut ethat they're aliens and listen to them. But a lot of people wouldn't - they'd be too scared or too curious to consider the message, and would rather focus on the source of it! I'm used to the idea of aliens - I've seen their starships for such a prolonged period of time now that I'd be used to the idea. I've no doubt they have some sort of message for me - why else would they appear in front of me?

Okay, reading some of the worse cases has made me more wary than I was, but as long as an alien shows they're not there to harm me and I'd be put back on the planet afterwards with apulse and in one piece, then I'd be willing to listen. But obviously, it's not the right time. I honestly feel I haven't seen the last of them, but due to this little phobia I've devloped, I'm not ready yet

As for the bad ones, there's always a possibility I'd be visisted by them - in the UFo world you can't say never. But the chance is very small an d I won't allow myself to get wound up by something that might never happen - there are plenty of things in my everyday life ot get wound up about

Wow, you got me into a serious thinking pluthora, Mark, now I'm talking the back legs off a donkey
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« Reply #77 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 1:04pm »

Hi Mark!

Your post gives simplicity by using dogs or pets we take to the pet's alien vets. But, dogs are attached to humans. Dog is man's best friend while man may not be ET's best friend or best interest. Almost every true abduction case I have known about have left dark tales about what aliens do to people. No, Greys are not blood suckers of humans; but, there are these types of rumors. I doubt dogs or pets sit around a table and discuss their trips to the vets or spin off fairy tales about them. They are usually happy to get home to be with their master.

Perception is key to contact with aliens. Then there is trust and faith. I trust and have faith what the aliens did to me was no evil intention to harm me even though they accidentally did. I forgave them and they came back to give me further instructions. The alien greys and reptilians are here to assist the Earth. But, Bill Clinton similar to your dog pet example, had a trip to a UFO sighting in which the contact frightened him to the point that he has ordered chief executive orders for the Air Force to track, hunt, and shoot down all UFOs flying over U.S. air space. And that's the end result of one contact with aliens.
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« Reply #78 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 1:22pm »

HEY CF,
I MUST SAY THEIR IS MUCH WISDOM IN YOUR THOUGHTS.
HOWEVER,MARKM,DOES MAKE A GOOD POINT ALTHOUGH HIS PERCEPTION DIFFERS FROM YOURS.
WE AS A RACE MUST OPEN OUR MINDS TO ASPECTS AND REALITIES WHICH HAVE HERETO FOR NOT BEEN REALIZED...CAN OUR FEARS AND FIXATIONS BE ALLAYED...IT WILL BE UP TO AMBASSADORS OF THE FUTURE TO INACT SUCH.
IT WILL BE THOSE THAT REFUSE TO CHANGE THEIR COMFORT LEVEL OR MERELY EVOLVE OR BEND LIKE A WILLOW TREE AS THIS EVOLUTIONARY WIND BLOWS ONTO THIS PLANET.
I HAVE FAITH AS THOMAS JEFFERSON SAYS THAT MAN IS FALLIBLE...THE UNIQUE ASPECT IS HIS ADAPTABILITY...
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
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« Reply #79 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 1:35pm »

ZETAR:

Sure, mankind is fallible. We see it in the headlines all the time. But, what about ET. What if we learned to trust ET and ET was fallible? Would that be our mistake? Accidents happen even to ET. ET may not be a perfected being either-- Roswell UFO crash 1947. Or, people being abducted and cross-dressed. You think perhaps this is a funny twist of fate; but look at the end result. We often like to put blame on things we do not readily understand and often judge short. When it comes to making full contact with ET, we need to consider all areas and take a few steps back to open our minds to these possibilities.
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« Reply #80 on: Mar 24th, 2008, 10:19pm »

HEY CF,
PARADISE LOST ...PARADISE REGAINED...THAT FIRST BITE FROM THE APPLE OF THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE...THROUGHOUT TIME THE FALLIBILITY OF MAN HAS BEEN REVEALED.
MY THOUGHTS OF PERFECTION WITHOUT ERROR OR MISTAKE IS HOPING FOR A UTOPIA.WE KNOW THAT(UTOPIA) IS A GOAL TO SET OUR SITES ON BUT NEVER REALLY ATTAINED AS ALL IN THAT JOURNEY MAKE MISTAKES.ONE FOOT AFTER THE OTHER,CALCULATED RISK AFTER ANOTHER, MANKIND TRUDGES FORWARD AND OFTEN WITH SACRAFICES OF MEN AND MACHINE.
I IMAGINE ANY EVOLVED SPECIES NOT FROM PANGEA...MANY EVOLUTIONARY YEARS OUR SUPERIOR HAS FURTHER MADE THEIR SHARE OF MISTAKES...THAT SEEMS TO BE A QUANTIFIABLE FACT TO EVOLUTION.
TO OVERCOME THOSE MISTAKES MAKES ONE... EARTH BASED OR NOT...RELISH IN THE ACCOMPLISHMENT IN MIND OVER MATTER OR MIND OVERCOMING THE SITUATION.
TRUST IS EARNED, AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.OBVIOUSLY MANKIND SHOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE EVOLVE INTO THE GALACTIC NEIGHORHOOD.
EARTH HAS IT'S SHARE OF CIVILIZATIONS AND CULTURES WITH SOME MORE TRUSTING THAN OTHERS PERMEATED WITH A NEED AND RECIPROCAL ARRANGEMENT OF ASSOCIATION...SO TOO WILL IT BE WITH THE TRILATERALS OR ANY OFF WORLD SPECIES.
HOWEVER,TREATIES...WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN IN EFFECT... CAN BE BROKEN BY BOTH SIDES.MOREOVER,IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE OFF WORLD SPECIES WHOM HAVE THEIR EYES ON PLANET EARTH.THEREFORE I CAN ONLY ASSESS SITUATIONS FROM MY RESEARCH WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE DATA FROM MAJESTIC OR THEIR RED TEAMS OR ANY AGENCY WHICH HAS THE MOST RECENT DATA REFERENCING THIS PHENOMENA.
OFF WORLD ALLIES MAY TURN OUT LIKE FRANCE WHOM THE U.S. CAME TO THEIR AID DURING A TRYING TIME AND DOWN THE ROAD FRANCE FAILED TO RECIPRACATE AND LOATHED THE U.S.
THE IMPORTANT POINT IS OUR COUNTRY AND MANY OTHERS HAVE GONE THROUGH A XENOPHOBIA...WE MUST USE OUR RESOURCES AT THEIR MOST SENSATIVE AND ANALYTICAL ABILITIES TO AVOID A "GALACTAPHOBIA".
IT'S BEEN BEST SAID THAT THE GOVERNMENT FOR MANY... CONTROLS THE FEARS AND FIXATIONS OF THE POPULOUS AND ULTIMATELY THE ONLY THING ONE SHOULD FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF wink
I MUST SAY THAT YOUR POSTS ARE THOUGHT PROVOKING AND APPRECIATE YOUR MEMBERSHIP AS I DO MANY OTHERS...I LOOK TO YOUR FUTURE POSTS AS I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.
SHALOM...ZETAR cool
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« Reply #81 on: Mar 25th, 2008, 09:12am »

on Mar 24th, 2008, 1:35pm, Celestian Falcon wrote:
ZETAR:

Sure, mankind is fallible. We see it in the headlines all the time. But, what about ET. What if we learned to trust ET and ET was fallible? Would that be our mistake?



Facon I agree with ZETAR on this TRUST is something to be EARNED. Althought they are times we are forced to trust such as the times when we may be forced to trust a doctor when we need surgery. B where ET fits in the mix for me is I DON'T trust them. Not because they're fallible but because they lurk in the shadows and take people against their will. Would you trust an ex-con living next door to you? I wouldn't reguardless of the crime. Until we know the TRUE intent of ET they will not be trusted by me.

I don't blame them for being wary of the government. They are many who fear the government and their policies. But what they(aliens) are doing is CRIMINAL! Essentially they are kidnapping humans IF you believe the accounts of abductees! Which I do! The fact that SOME abductees comeback recounting a postive experience is beside the fact. They're taken AGAINST their will.

I will admit I know nothing about aleins, what races are good or bad. I may be painting them all with the same brush. But the truth is UNTIL they make contact with the world we'll never know! Just my two cents! Dan
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« Reply #82 on: Apr 21st, 2008, 3:14pm »

I'm realy bummed..I just read Drdil's post on the efficacy of My finely crafted TIN FOIL CROWN!!! I just had it professionaly cleaned by that well known tin hat restorererer Lord Batbelfree. I have trusted this implement for years and as yet...I have not had any brain cells damaged by unauthorised radio wavs. There was one time I could listen to Lawrence Welk without any radio within walking distance! I think he was deceased at the time but I'm not sure. Anyway, I must take issue with these folks findings.

(with tongue in cheek)

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« Reply #83 on: Apr 22nd, 2008, 09:10am »


Take the tin foil off and re-sheath it with lead. Then get a neck brace.

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« Reply #84 on: Apr 22nd, 2008, 11:46am »

on Apr 21st, 2008, 3:14pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
I'm realy bummed..I just read Drdil's post on the efficacy of My finely crafted TIN FOIL CROWN!!! I just had it professionaly cleaned by that well known tin hat restorererer Lord Batbelfree. I have trusted this implement for years and as yet...I have not had any brain cells damaged by unauthorised radio wavs. There was one time I could listen to Lawrence Welk without any radio within walking distance! I think he was deceased at the time but I'm not sure. Anyway, I must take issue with these folks findings.

(with tongue in cheek)

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LOL, that was funny as hell. props on your dark yet perky humor cheesy
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« Reply #85 on: Apr 22nd, 2008, 3:19pm »

Oren-san, Dozo...Raf-san, Dozo, I appreciate your post. Raf-san, to make my crown of lead, I will need anti-gravity system or I will experience most very dishonorable bad neck trauma. Might you please ask Falcon-san to ask spirit warior to be so kind to give me plans for such a devicehuh. I am sure he must possess correct knowledge of said device. Nobel Falcon has all knowing knowledge of said technology. He tells us all time in very exacting terms!!!
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« Reply #86 on: Apr 30th, 2008, 09:29am »

TEXTTEXT
My mom told me that about God..we are not supposed to understand why..I feel that if our leaders would put it all on the table for us..defense issues included..we could unite and get real results from investigations and our fellow man to handle this obvious truth that they are here. We have NO IDEA what they are up to. With the damage their crafts leave behind when they touch our ground we better hope too many dont decide to land. The human suffering at their hand is unforgivable.
We must know why.. its human to need an answer.
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« Reply #87 on: May 11th, 2008, 1:08pm »

"We have every right"

We have to consider that the aliens look on us in the same way as we look on our "pets". ie that they know better than we do what is good for us, because of their advanced knowledge.

I think the possibilities of 2 way dialog with aliens is remote. Why would they be interested in communicating with us ? They can't learn anything from us technologically, and probably only regard us as "lab rats" to be studied as experimented on.
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« Reply #88 on: May 11th, 2008, 1:22pm »

I would not trust them, for all we know in their eyes we could be dinner.
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« Reply #89 on: May 11th, 2008, 4:33pm »


If they have developed telepathic powers , the chances are that they have a very stable society.

With everyone knowing everyone elses thoughts, how could there be wars ? Wars come about because of suspicions of what others may be thinking or planning to do. With everything out in the open , no-one could plan a war without the "other side" knowing. The same applies to crimes. The only reasonable path to take is co-operation for the common good.

However , how they use this power with regard to people like us who do not have it is open to question. It could be a weapon, or just a defence mechanism against any violent thoughts we may have towards them.

Personally I think that if they were dangerous we would have known about it long ago. I think they are content to go about their own scientific investigations and leave us to our own devices, and wait for us to improve our own social skills (including telepathy).

So I don't think they are either hostile or friendly, just ambivalent.
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