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« Reply #240 on: Jul 14th, 2014, 10:52am »

Dont mind me dear Ski,I was very very impressed with Jacobs interview he did with UFO Evidence. Here have a read when you get the chance.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/DavidJacobs.htm

I remember reading The Threat and going to sleep with the lights on.
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« Reply #241 on: Jul 16th, 2014, 6:19pm »

After Karla Turner was killed I have not been to a convention or kept up with who is the latest greatest investigator. I sort of withdrew from everything and everyone. I doubt even many around Karla know much if anything about me. She may have mentioned me after my talks with her to some; I have no real clue.

I have seen very little if any serious evidence of Critical Analysis outside a few individuals I know personally. But again as I say I have not been looking either. Karla was killed, Mack was killed. You have to gain our trust and those giants had.
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« Reply #242 on: Jul 17th, 2014, 08:27am »

Oldtimer,many of us believe John Macks accident was no accident,however in order for others to believe it weve got to have proof.
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« Reply #243 on: Jul 17th, 2014, 11:04am »

on Jul 17th, 2014, 08:27am, carolnistri wrote:
Oldtimer,many of us believe John Macks accident was no accident,however in order for others to believe it weve got to have proof.


His death may have been a real accident or what is referred to as a "happy accident". You may never know the truth one way or the other just as you may never know if Karla's death was a true health accident or an actual follow through to the threats she received. I'm sorry to say it however there are ways that such things can be done and with the Powers That Be interests that none of this ever come to light you can take it to the bank it will not at least not in my lifetime. Not one person believed our government or those working for it would experiment on fellow government employees or civilians with drugs without the subjects knowledge or consent however today we know these things have gone on under official sanction of the U.S. Government. Look it up. How many people involved were ever held accountable or ever criminally charged? I hate to break it to you but I found out in the military that there are those ABOVE THE LAW!

I once knew a Captain, I will not say in what branch of service, to help shield his identity who was one of several responsible for classified documents in the Pentagon. One document he read so bothered him he resigned his commission, totally lost all faith in the US Government, and went into the ministry. That is where I met him; while he was in training to become a Christian minister. I know the contents but I'm not going to repeat it here for several reasons. First, I don't want to put him in danger even now. Second, you will not believe me or him as you say "there is now proof". You could verify that the incident occurred but it was officially listed as an accident after government investigation which was in fact a factual impossibility. Anyone involved would be classed "expendable" and they were as it is said following orders. The public has zero clue what goes on inside the "black budget", neither does Congress, or most of the U.S. Military. It is compartmentalized to keep it that way so that if any part is by any means exposed it is limited to that compartment only.



Look up the meaning of "happy accident". They are real as I heard the term used in the military. I also use the term often "sheepeople" as a hold over from references to civilians easily manipulated. Sometimes where there is smoke there really is fire.
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« Reply #244 on: Jul 17th, 2014, 3:26pm »

on Jul 17th, 2014, 11:04am, Oldtimer wrote:
His death may have been a real accident or what is referred to as a "happy accident". You may never know the truth one way or the other just as you may never know if Karla's death was a true health accident or an actual follow through to the threats she received. I'm sorry to say it however there are ways that such things can be done and with the Powers That Be interests that none of this ever come to light you can take it to the bank it will not at least not in my lifetime. Not one person believed our government or those working for it would experiment on fellow government employees or civilians with drugs without the subjects knowledge or consent however today we know these things have gone on under official sanction of the U.S. Government. Look it up. How many people involved were ever held accountable or ever criminally charged? I hate to break it to you but I found out in the military that there are those ABOVE THE LAW!

I once knew a Captain, I will not say in what branch of service, to help shield his identity who was one of several responsible for classified documents in the Pentagon. One document he read so bothered him he resigned his commission, totally lost all faith in the US Government, and went into the ministry. That is where I met him; while he was in training to become a Christian minister. I know the contents but I'm not going to repeat it here for several reasons. First, I don't want to put him in danger even now. Second, you will not believe me or him as you say "there is now proof". You could verify that the incident occurred but it was officially listed as an accident after government investigation which was in fact a factual impossibility. Anyone involved would be classed "expendable" and they were as it is said following orders. The public has zero clue what goes on inside the "black budget", neither does Congress, or most of the U.S. Military. It is compartmentalized to keep it that way so that if any part is by any means exposed it is limited to that compartment only.



Look up the meaning of "happy accident". They are real as I heard the term used in the military. I also use the term often "sheepeople" as a hold over from references to civilians easily manipulated. Sometimes where there is smoke there really is fire.


Appears an extreemely happy accident, Oldtimer. Who would be made so happy by Mack's accident, and in what way precisely? If indeed his killing was authorized, it might be due to his scientific support for real extraterrestrials, plus disseminating an unvetted, continually expanding body of information directly from experiencers/abductees and from the alien abductors themselves. He entered forbidden territory.

His death gave back a measure of control to those charged with managing this type of information.


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« Reply #245 on: Jul 17th, 2014, 4:00pm »

If you go back through enough history in this field connecting dots it may start to form a picture. If it does it might be a picture no one wants to see or allow to be seen. Think seriously about that and then start connecting the dots.
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« Reply #246 on: Jul 18th, 2014, 3:56pm »

on Jul 17th, 2014, 4:00pm, Oldtimer wrote:
If you go back through enough history in this field connecting dots it may start to form a picture. If it does it might be a picture no one wants to see or allow to be seen. Think seriously about that and then start connecting the dots.


I think I have connected the dots, and didn't like that pictiure, Oldtimer. My question: how do you connect the dots, specifically in relation to abduction experience, for instance your own, and any reliable reports you trust? Why are abductors abducting?


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« Reply #247 on: Jul 18th, 2014, 7:14pm »

These things have been grooming mankind. They plan to come forth at a pre-determined time (Next 10 year I believe) as the returned creators of mankind here to save their creation but demanding total obedience, loyalty, and worship of the one they point to as "God"! Failure to obey will result in death.
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« Reply #248 on: Jul 18th, 2014, 9:29pm »

Oh my...that same old doom and gloom belief has been around for many decades in the ufo conspiracy circles.
It troubles me that people believe such things as readily as others like the Christians et al believe that the End Times are coming and we need to fight and be ready for the Rapture.
Religion is religion no matter what form it takes.
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« Reply #249 on: Jul 18th, 2014, 11:46pm »

on Jul 18th, 2014, 9:29pm, drwu23 wrote:
Oh my...that same old doom and gloom belief has been around for many decades in the ufo conspiracy circles.
It troubles me that people believe such things as readily as others like the Christians et al believe that the End Times are coming and we need to fight and be ready for the Rapture.
Religion is religion no matter what form it takes.


Yes, it is so troubling perhaps they all should be exterminated? My, did I say that out loud?
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« Reply #250 on: Jul 19th, 2014, 12:40am »

on Jul 18th, 2014, 7:14pm, Oldtimer wrote:
These things have been grooming mankind. They plan to come forth at a pre-determined time (Next 10 year I believe) as the returned creators of mankind here to save their creation but demanding total obedience, loyalty, and worship of the one they point to as "God"! Failure to obey will result in death.


Perhaps their grooming has failed, Oldtimer. Mankind is aggressive, increasingly secular, overeager to shoot anything intruding on our territories/airspace. ESPECIALLY if they are aliens with bad manners methinks. And including if it's 'Jesus' coming back in a fairsized flying saucer with a plasma gun.


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« Reply #251 on: Jul 19th, 2014, 01:34am »

on Jul 19th, 2014, 12:40am, purr wrote:
Perhaps their grooming has failed, Oldtimer. Mankind is aggressive, increasingly secular, overeager to shoot anything intruding on our territories/airspace. ESPECIALLY if they are aliens with bad manners methinks. And including if it's 'Jesus' coming back in a fairsized flying saucer with a plasma gun.

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Fear is a great motivational tool and what "they" can do to you gives a whole new meaning to the word Unless you know their weakness.

You forget I was part of NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) when stationed and training inside the United States in my primary branch of service while in the U.S. Army (impressed yet) Air Defense Artillery, Small Unit Missile Commander.

"They" like to play games with our militray but our military do not like the rules sometimes.

Do the Internet searches about UFOs hovering over Missile Silos and what happens.There are hundreds of the below type articles to choose from but here are just three that may help address your concerns with links to the complete articles.

UFOs eyed nukes, ex-Air Force personnel say - http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27/ufos-showed-interest-in-nukes-ex-air-force-personnel-say/


Missile Base Incidents - http://www.nicap.org/babylon/missiles.htm

UFOs Deactivate Nuclear Missiles Around The World -http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/03/02/ufos-deactivate-nuclear-missiles-around-the-world/
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« Reply #252 on: Jul 19th, 2014, 03:10am »

Oldtimer,is it true that the air force has chased UFOs?
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« Reply #253 on: Jul 19th, 2014, 07:56am »

on Jul 19th, 2014, 03:10am, carolnistri wrote:
Oldtimer,is it true that the air force has chased UFOs?


LOL, due a web search for the number of times.
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« Reply #254 on: Jul 21st, 2014, 04:18am »

I feel we have a goldmine in you,yet you seem to afraid to talk much,too bad.
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