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« Reply #45 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 10:06am »

JJflash,do you Not believe there have been abductions? If the answer is yes than I believe your not if favor of the Betty and Barney Hill case?
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« Reply #46 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 10:07am »

Dr.Wu,do you believe that people have been abducted or not?
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« Reply #47 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 11:24am »

Carolnistri,

Knowing what the OZ EFFECT feels like, I believe abduction
also means going into another dimension.

The OZ EFFECT seems to me like not being able to hear sounds, and your brain knows something is wrong.
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« Reply #48 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 12:20pm »

on Aug 3rd, 2014, 10:07am, carolnistri wrote:
Dr.Wu,do you believe that people have been abducted or not?


I too am most curious about Wu's and Jjflash' beliefs on the matter, Carol smiley!

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« Reply #49 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 12:40pm »

No I didn't see it carolistri. I don't watch much tv but news. I don't believe I was abducted but I do wonder at times. These things/ufo's have been around since the beginning of the written word/petroglyphs. I was reading accounts of Aboriginal Australian tales of UFO's/Abductions last night. Going back as far as 1933. So there are aboriginal people claiming definitely unwanted ufo abduction/sightings,at the same time, Aboriginal "Shamans' in training were intentionally put in ceremonies to induce sightings and abduction. The author claimed calling them UFO's etc is really anthropromorphizing our Western Culture onto them. Interesting. Some tribes believe aliens are gods. I don't. I really think it has to be an inter demensional/inter planetary/ String Theory Quantum Physics thing like Purr says. More like a telapathic experiance. Like a Thought process manifestation of energy thing. Like a hallucination but with more reality to it. Not really Reality. Not really a hallucination. Something in the Middle if that makes sense. We are all so used to black and white thinking. Reality versus Not Reality. What if there is something in the Middle?cheesy That theory boiling in my mind partly stems from the UFO me and my friends saw does not fit any description of what anyone else has seen in 24 yrs of me researching. So I think maybe it was a real experience and a not real one. Hard to Explain. But I can say it has negatively impacted my life for 24 years. Lots of fear. Fear of praying. Feeling like my Boundaries were crossed by them.
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« Reply #50 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 1:44pm »

If you go into my thread here of 7/23/12 You can read my experiences to gain a vivid backround. It seems every July I get like PTSD flashbacks that is because I surmise it happened in 1989/90 JULY. One experience I forgot to tell is that as a youngster 5/6 yrs old? I bought a book home from the library about Ufo's and Aliens. I was reading in bed and that night I saw 4/? tiny alien creatures walking along the windowsill outside staring in at me. I promptly FREAKED. Ran to my parents room and my mother explained I was dreaming. Was I? Telepathically I think since a child they have tapped into my mind maybe. My mom is Indian. I am both Indian and White. Not all tribes feed into/talk of or believe in these alien creatures. My mom and I's tribe is more earth bound religion plus lots of Indians have Christianity. Christianity and Indian religous mix. I do not give my thoughts to that experience because I very well may have been dreaming at that age. Maybe not. Who knows. My level of terror that night at that age suggests I was not. Again it is the Real/UnReal middle ground experience. But my friends and I all experienced that UFO in 1989. That is when my life got fearful. PTSDish. Is " I's" a word? LOL 9 years of college and two degrees I should be ashamed of my grammar and spelling. oh well. rolleyes
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« Reply #51 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 3:00pm »

I love the photo, purr. smiley

No, I do not think people are being abducted by aliens. I do not think an extraterrestrial civilization is currently visiting earth, particularly not on the scale some would have us believe.

Have aliens ever contacted humankind? I don't have any idea. Wouldn't know.

I think most self-described abductees are sincere and believe something happened to them. I think in many cases something did. I think in a small number of circumstances it may have been something unusual or paranormal, for lack of better terms, but in most cases I suppose not.

I think the UFO community was largely taken for a ride by liars and charlatans. Sometimes misinformed by professionals for a wide range of reasons, many that remain unknown.

None of that necessarily means that reported experiences are not interesting. Maybe even extraordinarily so. I just don't have any particular reason to believe aliens are responsible, and I have come to seriously doubt it.

Carol, I have written a lot about the Hill case in the Mirage Men thread. Basically, no, I do not think they were abducted by aliens. Such a conclusion would require extraordinary proof, and such conclusions should always be established as facts before accepted as so.
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« Reply #52 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 3:28pm »

Yes jjflash; That is why I will not go to a hypnotist. If one sees a hypnotist that believes in alien abduction than ideas that I was abducted could be by suggestion planted as false memories. I have always been point blank in my memories and try to leave out inference. I live in Hopi/Pueblo country. The Hopi believe these are Gods. I was called by my Navajo boyfreind his "wife" for four years in their traditional sense. I took part in ceremonies. I never talked about my UFO experience because first it could jeopradize my career. More so I think people would laugh and assume I was making it up. It is incredulous. It is /was severly traumatizing although the impact of that experience has waned enough for me to discuss it here. My exhusband that saw the UFO with me all during our seven year marriage would just shudder when I brought it up. All four of us that experienced it vowed not to go public lest we lose our jobs. A Hopi might think I am trying to over relate to their religion. My experience was in the North East 1989/90. That craft was spotted by my now exhusband first. All four of us rode in terror as it hovered over our car and got closer and closer to the roof of the car until about 1/16 th of a mile from our home driveway. The driver and his girlfriend worked for the State. So we all decided not to contact authorities. Myself I was so full of adrenaline and fear that when the driver stopped the car because the craft was almost on the roof of the car and he was paralyzed with fear- my adrenaline kicked in. I screamed "let me out of the car!". The driver refused. From the back seat I kicked his seat forward and opened the door. The craft moved. I ran after it and stood under it for a long while while my now exhusband and friends begged me to get back in the car. It followed us from the town we hiked in near the NY border all the way home. My thinking is it was real because we all saw it. But it was unreal because how could it follow us as we plainly saw it all down the highway and not one other car or how would I say? There should have been mass hysteria on the highway. Granted it was getting night and the craft was black. My thought is yes these things are true and traumatizing and not true. They are like holograms from another dimension. That is why there will never be overwhelming scientific proof per say and never will people be really believed unless they have been through it themselves. But it is true! and not true. Another dimension of reality that the Creator only allows a few people to go to for whatever reason.
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« Reply #53 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 3:40pm »

Hi, lyttlbyrd,

I understand your points. I of course wouldn't have any idea what happened in your circumstances,

I also understand how it would be traumatizing. I wish you much success in your efforts to deal with it and learn more.

on Aug 3rd, 2014, 3:28pm, lyttlbyrd wrote:
Yes jjflash; That is why I will not go to a hypnotist. If one sees a hypnotist that believes in alien abduction than ideas that I was abducted could be by suggestion planted as false memories.


I agree with that very much.
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« Reply #54 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 4:31pm »

(Purr your use of the cats is top notch,I wouldnt have dreamed of using them but it couldnt be more perfect.Or is that Purrfect?)

Littlebird,do you have or have you formed an opinion on Cattle Mutilations? I guess I have to agree about Not using a hypnotised,I can tell someone whos had an experience that they should go to one,but Ive gotten shouted down so often there must be something to it,btw curiosity would make me go,but not alone.

JJflash now Im curious,do you believe that something strange flies in our skies,that was a crummy question,I know you do.You see to me abductions make sense,a hybrid race of people makes a certain amount of sense.It explains the why of it all. But sometime during the night long ago it didnt make sense at all.How can they float right thru a wall without touching a button? How can they be buck naked and float themselves thru your bedroom and up into a waiting ship,and why dont the neighbors see this brighter than bright light?Ive got so many many questions but right now Bridgestone Inventational and McCilroy is ahead.I cant stand my husbands bellowing for me to get off the darned computer and get out here! Talk to you all tomorrow.
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« Reply #55 on: Aug 3rd, 2014, 5:03pm »

There are allot of cattle mutalations out here in Rancher country. Yes I believe it is these beings from UFO trasporters doing it. It is again from another dimension. They have found humans mutilated in the same lazer like percision way that under autopsy were found to have died from a type of heart attack that is caused from severe horrorific injury or bodily torture. In other words these "aliens" do not anesthetize them first. I somehow do not believe these "alens" are evil but more of "heartless". They have not the ability to emote or feel that is why they conduct hi tech experiments and stalk folk without any gumption about it. They are not intentionally hurting people. That is not in their concious because they do not have a concious. Make sense? Thanks for asking because I go long times without ever uttering a word about it (no pun intended) then I need to talk to get through the PTSD bits. I reckon that my experiences will haunt me until I die. I am not a Hopi and I do not believe as they do. Although I have great Respect for the Hopi. They believe these aliens and UFO's in the end times will come get them. That we are Star people born initially from another planet and placed on Earth by them. I do NOT! believe that and I do not want to go with them. I do believe we do come from the stars in a purely chemical make up and spirit way but I do not believe those Creatures made us. Creator made us. Then again Maybe they did make us and they are collecting dna again for a new race/breed of humans as some surmise. I surely hope not. I don't pretend to have strong opinions on anything nor have I enough knowledge to call anything fact. What made me all the sudden really curious if I had been abducted is that my optometrist 2 weeks ago found a cataract on my eyeball up towards were my brain is. She also found scratches. That is really an unusual place. Did those buggers do an experiment on my eye? I don't like the thought of aliens they scare me terribly. The cataract could be from Sundancing and staring at the South Dakota sun but then I would have a cataract nearer to a normal place on my pupil. I do not. As a kid I injured my eye but I am not sure if it was my left or right eye. I threw a super ball hard as I could and it landed in my eye. My mom put a steak on it and I had a black eye for a long time. So who knows. I stood under that UFO a long time that night while my friends stayed huddled and frozen in the car. Did they take me and mess with my eye? I know Purr showed a pic with cats having 3d glasses. I am telling the truth though. I used to go to Indian Health Service for eye exams but in the last several months I have had blurred vision in my right eye. So I went to a private eye doc who did extensive exams. She has no idea why I have a cataract there. It is unusual. It is weird frankly.She ruled out macular degeneration etc. I did get glasses for just plain old age. Reading glasses. But my right eye is unfixable really.
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Hmm.I was born with no vision in my right eye.Lyttlebird it would drive me round the bend to have this hanging for so long.Isnt there anyone in your home state that you would trust?Wait,Ive thought of something.
Im not sure if your from North or South Dakota but here try this.https://www.facebook.com/mufonnd. I would ask of them if there was a reliable person that could make me remember,just trying to help.
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« Reply #57 on: Aug 4th, 2014, 11:45am »

JJflash,where is the Mirage Mens thread?
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on Aug 4th, 2014, 11:45am, carolnistri wrote:
JJflash,where is the Mirage Mens thread?


http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=taken&num=1371319446
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on Aug 4th, 2014, 03:42am, carolnistri wrote:
Hmm.I was born with no vision in my right eye.Lyttlebird it would drive me round the bend to have this hanging for so long.Isnt there anyone in your home state that you would trust?Wait,Ive thought of something.
Im not sure if your from North or South Dakota but here try this.https://www.facebook.com/mufonnd. I would ask of them if there was a reliable person that could make me remember,just trying to help.

I would never join an FB site or any such thing for privacy reasons. I find here is a good place. Reading others stories and sharing mine really helps.
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