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« Reply #390 on: Mar 5th, 2008, 08:20am »

HEY OHRDRUF,
I FOUND THIS REPORT ON THE BRACAMONTE INCIDENT. IS THIS A REASONABLE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED?

Location. Near Irene, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Date: November 7 2007
Time: 0130am
Two police officers, Luis Bracamonte, & Osvaldo Orellano, were patrolling this rural area in their trucks near the Felipe Fernandez ranch. At one point they stopped the truck while Orellano exited the vehicle and walked around the area while Bracamonte remained inside the vehicle re-charging his telephone card with his mobile phone. While looking at his phone Bracamonte notices a small light, which was approaching their location at fairly high speed. Suddenly the light became much larger and brighter, now resembling a large “gray truck”. At the same time Bracamonte sees a small figure which at first he thought was a dog, but as he looked more carefully he realized it was a small humanoid figure about 80cm in height, with a large head, large gray prominent eyes, and greenish in color. He then tried to dial Orellano’s cell number, who was patrolling nearby, but all he could get in the receiver was static. He then sees three more humanoid beings exiting the large grayish luminous “vehicle”. Two were similar to the first one he saw while the third was larger and more robust. At the same time he heard Orellano which was apparently watching the same spectacle, yelling in panic. Immediately the four humanoids ran back into the object which took off and quickly disappeared towards the north, leaving behind a white glow which disappeared leaving behind a green glowing mist and strong sulfur like odor. As the craft left it emitted a thunder-clap type sound. Two other police officers, Santiago Walter and Walter Carbajal who were patrolling that same night near the village of Nicolas Descalzi watched a large white light suddenly approach and engulf their vehicle. The engine stopped and their cell phones would not work. Looking up they then both saw a powerful white light which briefly hovered and then disappeared in a flash. Around the same time several residents from the village of Oriente watched a strange glow in the sky in the direction of Irene. And a husband and wife traveling towards Marisol were approached by a white light from behind which also engulfed their vehicle.

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Source: Guillermo D. Gimenez---Argentina quoting La Voz del Pueblo
http://www.lavozdelpueblo.com.ar/diario/2007-11-10/La_Region/24309.htm
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« Reply #391 on: Mar 5th, 2008, 08:22am »

HEY OHRDRUF,
I FOUND THIS REPORT ON THE BRACAMONTE INCIDENT. IS THIS A REASONABLE ACCOUNT OF WHAT HAPPENED?

Location. Near Irene, Buenos Aires, Argentina
Date: November 7 2007
Time: 0130am
Two police officers, Luis Bracamonte, & Osvaldo Orellano, were patrolling this rural area in their trucks near the Felipe Fernandez ranch. At one point they stopped the truck while Orellano exited the vehicle and walked around the area while Bracamonte remained inside the vehicle re-charging his telephone card with his mobile phone. While looking at his phone Bracamonte notices a small light, which was approaching their location at fairly high speed. Suddenly the light became much larger and brighter, now resembling a large “gray truck”. At the same time Bracamonte sees a small figure which at first he thought was a dog, but as he looked more carefully he realized it was a small humanoid figure about 80cm in height, with a large head, large gray prominent eyes, and greenish in color. He then tried to dial Orellano’s cell number, who was patrolling nearby, but all he could get in the receiver was static. He then sees three more humanoid beings exiting the large grayish luminous “vehicle”. Two were similar to the first one he saw while the third was larger and more robust. At the same time he heard Orellano which was apparently watching the same spectacle, yelling in panic. Immediately the four humanoids ran back into the object which took off and quickly disappeared towards the north, leaving behind a white glow which disappeared leaving behind a green glowing mist and strong sulfur like odor. As the craft left it emitted a thunder-clap type sound. Two other police officers, Santiago Walter and Walter Carbajal who were patrolling that same night near the village of Nicolas Descalzi watched a large white light suddenly approach and engulf their vehicle. The engine stopped and their cell phones would not work. Looking up they then both saw a powerful white light which briefly hovered and then disappeared in a flash. Around the same time several residents from the village of Oriente watched a strange glow in the sky in the direction of Irene. And a husband and wife traveling towards Marisol were approached by a white light from behind which also engulfed their vehicle.

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Source: Guillermo D. Gimenez---Argentina quoting La Voz del Pueblo
http://www.lavozdelpueblo.com.ar/diario/2007-11-10/La_Region/24309.htm
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« Reply #392 on: Mar 5th, 2008, 09:24am »

This Argentinian incident is very interesting. As usual the ETs controlled this environment and made radio communication impossible. They also controlled the minds of the people to prevent themselves from being captured or harmed. I was particularly fascinated by the loud clap of thunder sound when this UFO departed. This is similar to the sound that a jet plane makes when it surpasses the sound barrier. It may also be the sound of a space vehicle jumping into a hyper space or other dimension as it exits.

I think that we should make more of an effort to try to explain these reported sightings with our theories and conjectures. Let's try to solve these puzzles instead of just reading about them. After all the contributors to UFO casebook have had exposure to UFOs and ETs therefore our combined intelligence and experience surpasses the military.

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« Reply #393 on: Mar 5th, 2008, 7:46pm »

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« Reply #394 on: Mar 6th, 2008, 11:54am »

Another report gives more details:

http://ourstrangeplanet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&-Itemid=60

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« Reply #395 on: Mar 7th, 2008, 2:44pm »

I am especially intrigued by the Argentinians sighting regarding the strong smell of sulfur. For hundreds of years stories have been written about devil like beings who appeared with evil intentions and had a strong smell of sulfur. All of these creatures came from another dimension, probably the fourth dimension, and they all had this feature in common. I am posting one of my real life experiences to illustrate this point that all of these creatures were ETs from other dimensions. Notice the sulfur factor in my experience.

I've had several experiences with other Worlds in the form of attacks against my person. There is one particular attack that I wish to recount because I believe that it was a "force of evil"[foe] from another World, possibly from the fourth dimension. The attacker was very real and very physical and I was almost killed.

About the 1970s or 1980s, [when I was married to my first wife], I had just finished doing a psychic reading and I was very pleased with myself.
I was taking a shower in my bathtub and I was standing near the water faucet. At this point I saw at the other end of this bathtub a six-foot tall, reddish colored “cat” dressed in a tuxedo and standing upright on its hind legs. I felt the evil that emanated from this giant “cat” and my breathing was overpowered by a strong bad smell like sulfur or possibly like a cat in heat.

This suffocating smell was interfering with my breathing and I was afraid that I was going to die of suffocation and at this point I mentally and physically said, "God help me". The “cat” then vanished, but I could not get that evil smell out of my brain and out of my nostrils for several weeks.

Evidently my cry for help was heard.

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« Reply #396 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 10:48am »

An earlier Argentine close encounter of the third kind in the same area as the Bracamonte sighting is quoted hereunder. The available transcript of the interview with the witness is 21 pages long, and I have included only a brief report plus the dialogue regarding the smell perceived, to which the previous correspondent drew attention.

SOURCE: Antonio Las Heras: "Informe sobre los visitantes extraterrestres y sus naves voladoras", Buenos Aires, 1974: Argentine national newspapers "La Voz del Pueblo", editions of 12 and 17 January 1973, police files, Tres Arroyos comisaría.

DATE AND PLACE OF OCCURRENCE: 2230 hrs, 29 December 1972 at Tres Arroyos, province of Buenos Aires (about 20 miles from Irene): on open land near the river Orellano on which was situated a brick furnace where the witness was a watchman.

WITNESS: Don Ventura Maceiras, a mechanic aged 73 years.

THE SIGHTING: The witness heard "the sound of bees" or "rather the sound of a chain saw when it is switched on but not cutting" and saw the craft land 15 metres away. In the report he describes it as being metallic and rather elongated with two portholes. He approached the craft and through one of these portholes he saw an occupant whom he described. After the parties had eyed each other for a brief period, the craft then took off.

THE SMELL:
Ventura Maceiras (VM): All I can tell you is that their fuel is nothing we know of because of its smell.

Vogh (interviewer): What sort of smell?

VM: You know the smell of arnica?

Vogh: The poultice you apply for muscular pain?

VM: Yes, that...well, a mixture of arnica and sulphur. When a tree is struck by lightning, you get this smell of arnica and sulphur...a powerful odour. Or a spark in a circuit gives of this smell of burnt sulphur, that was what I smelt. For that reason I think these people have mastered electricity...

OTHER OBSERVATIONS: After this encounter it is recorded that the 73 year old Maceiras grew a third set of teeth. His hair was replenished. He reported that he considered his intelligence was increasing.
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« Reply #397 on: Mar 8th, 2008, 10:37pm »

THE LOGICAL ITEM OR INERT GAS WHICH IS PREVALENT WITH THISE SIGHTINGS...USO'S...UFO'S IN OR NEAR VOLCANIC ACTIVITY,ETC,ETC,...IS METHANE GAS.
ABUNDANT IN ALL AREAS MENTIONED AN IT APPEARS THAT SAME IS JUXTAPOSED IN CERTAIN OFF-WORLD CRAFT...
WHAY SAY YOU?
I MUST SAY...ORHDRUF...YOU'VE BROUGHT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN THE FORUM...MANY THINGS COME TO MIND REGARDING YOUR EXPOSURE TO DOCUMENTS TRANSCRIBED...ONE THING WHICH I AM CURIOUS SINCE YOU STATED THAT THE NEW WEAPON WAS NOT THE ATOMIC BOMB...WAS IT TESLA BASED?...OR CAN YOU DISCUSS THE AFOREMENTIONED...
THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT GERMAN UNDERGROUND HIGHWAY/TRANSPORT TO URAGUAY,PARAGUAY,ARGENTINA...I'VE SPENT MUCH TIME IN BRASIL(BRAZIL) AND HAVE FRIENDS WHOM RESIDE IN THE AFOREMENTIONED AND FIND THEIR INFLUENCE TO BE QUITE DISTINCT IN EACH AREA...NOTHING MORE SHOULD BE SAID wink
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THE LOGICAL ITEM OR INERT GAS WHICH IS PREVALENT WITH THISE SIGHTINGS...USO'S...UFO'S IN OR NEAR VOLCANIC ACTIVITY,ETC,ETC,...IS METHANE GAS.
ABUNDANT IN ALL AREAS MENTIONED AND IT APPEARS THAT SAME IS JUXTAPOSED IN CERTAIN OFF-WORLD CRAFT...
WHAY SAY YOU?
I MUST SAY...ORHDRUF...YOU'VE BROUGHT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR IN THE FORUM...MANY THINGS COME TO MIND REGARDING YOUR EXPOSURE TO DOCUMENTS TRANSCRIBED...ONE THING WHICH I AM CURIOUS SINCE YOU STATED THAT THE NEW WEAPON WAS NOT THE ATOMIC BOMB...WAS IT TESLA BASED?...OR CAN YOU DISCUSS THE AFOREMENTIONED...
THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT GERMAN UNDERGROUND HIGHWAY/TRANSPORT TO URAGUAY,PARAGUAY,ARGENTINA...I'VE SPENT MUCH TIME IN BRASIL(BRAZIL) AND HAVE FRIENDS WHOM RESIDE IN THE AFOREMENTIONED AND FIND THEIR INFLUENCE TO BE QUITE DISTINCT IN EACH AREA...NOTHING MORE SHOULD BE SAID wink
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« Reply #399 on: Mar 10th, 2008, 09:42am »

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The miracle weapon was based on plasma physics. It was an additive capable of mass production, tested at Ohrdruf on 3rd and 12 March 1945. It posed very dangerous problems to the meteorological stability of the environment and Göring is quoted as saying after his capture that he thought it could destroy civilisation, and would have refused the Luftwaffe permission to use it had it become available in time.

The additive was not a nuclear weapon but used an atomic principle. Particles of atomic decay changed the constitution of the air inside a toroid stable plasmoid. When the plasmoid was dissolved by a radio signal, the released plasma combined with any high explosive in the vicinity to enormously magnify its destructive force. A 50 kg bomb therefore had the killing power of an Hiroshima atom bomb, but without the destruction to property and little residual radioactivity. An article by Harry Vosser "Germans Still Striving to Perfect a V-Weapon" published in the New York Times on 2 October 1944 at page E5 shows that the US was well informed about the development of this weapon at a critical stage of the war, and understood in theory how it worked.

Modern western science has not been able to re-create an artificial plasmoid with a life longer than 200 millisecs. Where Hitler obtained the scientific knowledge is unknown. In the 1930s AEG was merely studying ball-lightning on the roof of a Berlin hospital, and the leap from there to actually creating an item of permanent ball lightning within seven years seems preposterous.

In this regard I would read the article "Plasma Life Forms - Aliens From a Parallel Earth" (Angels/UFOs/Psychics) very, very thoughtfully.
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I cannot resist jumping into this conversation. There is no doubt in my mind that we have had several weapons of mass distruction discovered and developed in the history of mans obsession with human race genocide. An example of this is the scientific experiment done many years ago by scientists who were trying to map the shape and contours of planet Earth. These morons exploded an H-bomb at one of the poles and recorded the shockwaves in order to map the shape of this planet. Had there not been UFO intervention this planet would have been knocked out of its orbit and all life forms destroyed. Try to understand that there is a higher intelligence which uses UFOs to maintain the integrity and stability of this planet in order to protect our solar system and the rest of the universe. Can you imagine how many times in the history of this planet UFOs have been forced to intervene to save this planet and its life forms? If man was left to his own devices, he would have destroyed this planet several times already and have done great harm to the universe.

Do not trust the idiots of science or the suicidal impulses of the military. Trust in a higher intelligence.

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HEY ORHDRUF,
IN DOING SOME RESEARCH I RAN ACROSS A ARTICLE CONCERNING THIS TYPE WEAPON.
PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS WHAT WAS BEING DEVELOPED AS IT COULD VERY WELL BE DEVASTATING...MANY OF THE GERMAN SCIETISTS WERE AWARE OF THE ATOMIC WEAPONS AND THEIR EFFECTS...SOME SAY THEY DELAYED DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS REASON.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE RUN ACROSS SOME INTERESTING INSIGHTS...EST POSSIBLE'?

The third outcome of Zippermeyer’s work was even deadlier. The proposed Flak shells containing coal dust powder were to be developed into a super bomb. The SS took Zippermeyer’s basic idea and enlarged it into a bomb containing 60% liquid oxygen and 40% fine coal dust powder. This alone would create immense destruction but the SS pushed the idea further by adding a waxy reagent to the mix. When detonated the Superbomb would create a huge explosion with a latter unnatural electrical storm effect at ground level, consuming all oxygen and burning everything alive in a 4.5 km radius - a form of plasma weapon. However, the decision to proceed with this bomb was only granted on March 9, 1945 and was to be constructed at the Jonastal S-3 complex as well as the German discs. The complex was never finished in time and worked stopped that same month, even after 25-50 kg test versions of the bomb were detonated in remote locations near the Baltic.

Postwar, Ing. Faulker was not heard of again. He was captured by the Russians in the advance and taken to the USSR. The Russians had considered the development of coal dust explosives too but decided against it and developed their own “thermobaric” weapons which ultimately were tested in Chechnya. No Russian flight disc development seems to have resulted from Faulkner’s capture.

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« Reply #402 on: Mar 12th, 2008, 10:17am »

Let us try to simplify the understanding of existence and of nonexistence. There are other dimensions of existence and reality and these are the habitat of other beings. What you perceive with your conscious mind and your five senses is a limited physical dimensional world. We cannot use this as the Keystone or guidepost to understand other dimensional beings. As I have stated so many times we must go beyond our physical limitations and learn to think like ETs in order to understand them and their worlds. Think with your higher mind and not with your logical brain. Understanding requires a quantum leap mentally above and beyond quantum physics. Are you ready?


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« Reply #403 on: Mar 12th, 2008, 11:28am »

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I agree that the Earth is under the protection of superior beings. I also believe that they will intervene to destroy the vast mass of humanity in the period 2009-2012, as has been prophesied twice this century in the Mariological apparitions. As a Russian scientist once observed, the Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot spend one's entire life in the cradle. Democracy and capitalism lead us nowhere except to more of the same. Therefore they will start with us virtually afresh.
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« Reply #404 on: Mar 12th, 2008, 11:55am »

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I congratulate you on your research. Dr Zippermayr had a small laboratory which he ran on behalf of the Luftwaffe at Lofer in the Austrian Tyrol. His idea for the coal dust/liquid air explosive began with a flak shell in 1942, and was later adapted to the "Enzian" and "Schmetterling" flak rockets. The first definite experiment with the additive reagent was reported by British agents in 1944 when the SS tried it in 50kg aircraft bombs on the Starnberger See. Zippermayr is mentioned in the British intelligence report, of which I have a copy.

The reagent was the product of plasma physics work which involved some advanced theories from an unknown source. I have an SS document which is written in such a way as to suggest that the source was external to the Earth. There is a good deal of information available on the laboratory process from a Polish source. Less well known is that experimental work continued in Argentina postwar.

There is some reason to suspect that the Brazilian light cruiser "Bahía" was sunk by U-977 at the Equator on 4 July 1945. It may have been the case that a round filled with the reagent was fired from a 38-mm flak gun and the plasma reacted with the explosives in the depth charges stacked on the poop of the cruiser with devastating effect.

The real danger of the reagent lay in the fact that it was "anti-gravitational". In the Ohrdruf test on 4 March 1945, the witnesses were cautioned "never to mention the hurricane gusts and hundreds of bolts of lightning" which raked the night skies when the explosion occurred.

It is probable that the United States captured samples of this reagent in Germany. The submarine U-234 which surrendered to the US Navy on 14 May 1945 had "ten cases of uranium oxide" aboard - the cover name for the reagent which was to have been used in ten Hiroshima-size explosions. U-234 had been heading for Tokyo when the commander, Fehler, decided the terminate the voyage on his own initiative. There was no means of knowing if other U-boats might not be heading for Japan with a similar cargo and one may perceive that these ten cases made inevitable the decision of the United States President to attack Japan with nuclear weapons and so ensure a quick end to the Second World War.

On the other hand, the building of nuclear weapons by the United States makes inevitable the coming attack on ourselves by the protective Powers since nuclear weapons are ILLEGAL in human hands!

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