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« Reply #45 on: Nov 30th, 2015, 3:05pm »

ZETAR,

..Fukushima was a human error. not a technological one."

I'M NOT SURE ONE MAY SEPARATE THE TWO
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A technical error would have been that they didn't fit emergency pumps to take over in the event of main pump failure. But they foresaw this possibility and allowed for it.
So the means of providing emergency cooling water was there.

The human error was that that didn't provide adequate protection for the emergency pumps. And they were flooded and didn't work.

Japan has around three thousand earthquakes a year. Most of them minor. And it's coasts are regularly hit by tsunami waves. again, most of them minor.

The failure was that no one said, 'hey, maybe there will be a real big one one day. Sod the expense, I want that barrier much higher. and I want the whole thing to work underwater for a while if necessary'.

Many places in the world are due to be inundated by water. There are many technological solution to this. Not stopping the floods, that wont work. But building to allow for them. However, if you have a situation where people, who never seem to be in short supply, insist in building in the wrong place, then what can you do ?

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« Reply #46 on: Dec 1st, 2015, 08:58am »

on Nov 30th, 2015, 1:47pm, MOKSHA wrote:
Have you ever been outside the Earths magnetic field ?
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I avoid the Earth's magnetic field whenever possible.


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« Reply #47 on: Dec 1st, 2015, 09:57am »

ZETAR,

Fukushima was a combination of human and technological errors. The technological error...being that fission power generation is a flawed technology, that is basically obsolete in the eyes of myself --- and most likely --- obsolete in the eyes an minds of the star travelers that occasionally visit our planet.


I speculate, that the main outlook of these otherworlders is to try to convince Earthlings, that fission power is an obsolete technology, by parading their own fusion power technology --- as in their own flying machines {a.k.a. Foo Fighters} --- in front of our very own eyes.

Since the star travelers have probably visited our planet... they most likely have achieved their own state of the art in flying machines, that are capable of superluminal speeds --- imho --- with some sort of photon propulsion, which is probably a basic requirement for interstellar travel for biological beings --- not only in our own galaxy --- but in other habitable galaxies as well.

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« Reply #48 on: Dec 1st, 2015, 10:28am »

ERNO,

TO WIT:

"Fukushima was a combination of human and technological errors. The technological error...being that fission power generation is a flawed technology, that is basically obsolete in the eyes of myself --- and most likely --- obsolete in the eyes an minds of the star travelers that occasionally visit our planet.

I speculate, that the main outlook of these otherworlders is to try to convince Earthlings, that fission power is an obsolete technology, by parading their own fusion power technology --- as in their own flying machines {a.k.a. Foo Fighters} --- in front of our very own eyes.

Since the star travelers have probably visited our planet... they most likely have achieved their own state of the art in flying machines, that are capable of superluminal speeds --- imho --- with some sort of photon propulsion, which is probably a basic requirement for interstellar travel for biological beings --- not only in our own galaxy --- but in other habitable galaxies as well."

ERNO ~ I'M INCLINED TO CONSIDER WE HAVE BEEN VISTED BY WHOM-EVER ~ FROM WHERE-EVER ~ AND SEEDS OF INFLUENCE HAVE BEEN PLANTED FOR EONS...

FUKUSHIMA TWAS A NUCLEAR ROLL OF THE DICE ~ THEY GAMBLED THAT THE 'GREAT TSUNAMI' WHICH ACCORDING TO THEIR ESTIMATION WOULD OCCUR EVERY 500 YEARS (SO THEY FIGURED...500 YEARS FROM THAT POINT...NOT THEIR PROBLEM) ~ WELL...IT IS HISTORY NOW ~ MOREOVER, TO SET FIVE NUCLEAR PLANTS IN A ROW AND FIGURE IF ONE OF THE FIVE WENT CRITICAL ~ SUCH COULD/WOULD BE CONTAINED (GROSS NEGLIGENCE) IMHO ~ WELL THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING WITH A RAD FACTOR OF rolleyes...

I'M UNABLE TO OPINE ON UR OTHERWORLDER CONTENTIONS THAT ~ "sort of photon propulsion" OR "these otherworlders is to try to convince Earthlings, that fission power is an obsolete technology, by parading their own fusion power technology" & "that are capable of superluminal speeds" DUE TO THE POSSIBILITY/PROBABILITY OF SOME SORT OF DIMENSIONAL TRAVEL ~ cool

HAVING SAID THE ABOVE ~ I'M SURE THERE IS/ARE ELEMENTS OF WHAT YOU'VE SUGGESTED ~ TO THE EXTENT/DEGREE...I MUST SAY ~ IS ABOVE MY PAYGRADE MY FRIEND grin

NEVERTHELESS ~ I ENJOY SEEING UR MIND TAKE FLIGHT!

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« Reply #49 on: Dec 1st, 2015, 3:36pm »

ZETAR,

"Due to the possibility/probability of some sort of dimensional travel." quote: ZETAR

I hope that the IDH hypothesis is not a truly viable alternative to the extraterrestrial hypothesis --- EDH.

"Some UFO proponents accepted IDH because the distance between the stars makes interstellar travel impractical using conventional means and nobody had demonstrated an antigravity or faster-than-light travel hypothesis that could explain extraterrestrial machines."

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Check out my posts on my hypothesis about superluminal capable flying machines.

"IDH is considered a belief system rather than a scientific hypothesis because it is not falsifiable through testing and experiment. Unlike ETH, it is not possible to verify IDH by experiment or by observation because there is no way to detect the alternative realities it postulates."

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_hypothesis
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« Reply #50 on: Dec 2nd, 2015, 08:03am »

Interestingly...the ETH is not currently falsifiable either since we have no way of testing it by getting to any planet in our solar system let alone extra solar planets.
We might in a decade or two but that would only be Mars.
But the ETH appeals to those who have a limited outlook on the possibilities of alien life since as Dr Vallee mentions in his interview , posted here at PA, there are other alternatives.

https://upvoted.com/2015/11/30/are-aliens-really-out-there-close-encounters-scientist-gives-his-opinion-in-ama/

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3url1s/i_am_dr_jacques_vall%C3%A9e_a_computer_scientist_and/cxh9fbu?amp=&+Tech=
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« Reply #51 on: Dec 22nd, 2015, 12:34pm »

The otherworlders have shown us the path toward fusion power --- Other than giving us the technology for fusion power {which I highly doubt that they will}, they seem satisfied to display such marvels, as in their fiery-balled foo fighters; that would provide an answer to most of all our energy needs.

The plasma, surrounding the starship, "might be generating a magnetic field using field-reversed configuration, or FRC, whereby the plasma itself generates the magnetic fields that confines it."

"The running joke about fusion energy is that it's 30 years away and always will be, but historically it's always been true."

"Fusion may just turn out to belong to that category of human achievement, like powered flight and moon landings, that appeared categorically impossible right up until the moment somebody did it."

"Fusion is a energy source so cheap and clean and plentiful that it would create an inflection point in human history, an energy singularity that would leave no industry untouched. Fusion would mean the end of fossil fuels.

It would be the greatest antidote to climate change that the human race could possibly ask for.

Saving the world: That is the end game."

quotes: Times magazine- November, 2015

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« Reply #52 on: Jul 31st, 2016, 6:29pm »

Erno86, The old flying ships where no use to help men to develop any technology, they where not like planes, but the message was "you can build something big and weighty that flyies",

An exaggerated caricature shows better a message than a real design which you can't understand..

They are just saying "you can go as fast as you like by avoiding inertial forces"... thats why they move on fast and funny patterns: to make it visible. Those patterns can't have any other sensible purpose.

So, the message is... "the next important issue to solve at your current technological level is to get rid on intertial forces"

We must be able to do it in a short term (50 o 5000 years) because, if not, it would be useless to show it as a possibility right now.( I am just following your 'parade theory' )

Gravity is a fictional force, matter just moves in certain ways in response to the curvature of spacetime. At the end, our real solution to this issue should look very different to their exaggerated caricature. Of course, but how you teach little children ? with cartoons.
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