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« Reply #1065 on: Mar 14th, 2011, 6:40pm »

on Mar 11th, 2011, 5:53pm, MOKSHA wrote:
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That would be like you, admitting to a ant, that you, were a HUMAN


Please...spare me the 'they are gods' junk.

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« Reply #1066 on: Mar 14th, 2011, 6:43pm »

Since the answer is obviously no to my question then I assume this belief of those who think aliens = angels is one for personal spiritual reasons.


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« Reply #1067 on: Mar 14th, 2011, 8:45pm »

on Mar 11th, 2011, 3:45pm, drwu23 wrote:
Just curious and this is for all those who are up on the angels =aliens idea.

Has there ever been a modern ufo encounter or abduction where the aliens actually admitted to being angels from heaven?
I have read a lot of ufo books over the years and I can't recall one.


Not that I know of. While the Angels are definitely a go between from God to humanity, the concept that they are ETs is dubious in my opinion, but possible. I'm thinking about the part where it talks about a war in Heaven? Still, I tend to think that's a different realm altogether.

But I do believe we're at a point where we will have to prove ourselves worthy of being allowed to join the successful races out there. Or be faced with starting over.
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« Reply #1068 on: Mar 14th, 2011, 8:54pm »

on Mar 14th, 2011, 6:40pm, drwu23 wrote:
Please...spare me the 'they are gods' junk.

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If you already hold such a definite bias, why bother to ask? I would suggest that unless you have definite knowledge of some master plan, that you at least be so polite as not to sneer? After all, none of us knows squat in this realm. We know what exists within the frequency of light and that is it. All else is an unknown to everybody.
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« Reply #1069 on: Mar 14th, 2011, 9:51pm »

THANK YOU ICE,
I guess mr. 23 did not like my ant parody
that's OK, I never asked any one to believe any thing.
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« Reply #1070 on: Mar 14th, 2011, 9:59pm »

My personal thoughts about the "angels" that were carved into statues, drawings etc., from the ancients, and even in biblical times; brings me to a point of "what if's"

Long before technological advances were made; and no modern inventions to compare to; what if alien races did visit with some humans in a frequent basis; how would they be portrayed by the people? Perhaps, if visitors here had the ability to fly; use jet packs, or be descended down from a craft (perhaps the craft was depicted in a carving or etched as a chariot of fire for example) how would these beings be portrayed in art or carvings? Since birds have wings, such as the majestic ones like eagles or other large winged birds, it would seem reasonable for me to portray beings that could fly, as a person with wings, hence angels.

Perhaps another portrayal of the ancients doing statues or etchings of angels symbolized "astral travel", where during dreams, the astral body could fly; so perhaps a way to depict such an idea would be to have persons depicted as having wings, hence angels. Whereas some of these depicted angels have halos; perhaps that signified a light body; spiritual body or astral body idea.

Perhaps the latter day religions incorporated these iconic images of flying men or women; as angels for a religious icon. It seems that some of these ancient carvings and etches long predated some of the religions like Christianity and other religions that spawned from that part of the world.

For example, places like Easter Island, ancient Mayan Temples and even some of the temples in Egypt, seemed to depict what could be ancient astronauts as another way of replicating the things people may have seen.

Again these are just "what if's?" Many modern day religions have adopted iconic images from some Pagan civilizations and have used them to depict adjunctive religious figures.

Here is a link to a good film as food for thought; Zeitgeist:
http://vimeo.com/13726978

Just a few thoughts that have crossed my mind.

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« Reply #1071 on: Mar 15th, 2011, 5:51pm »

August 10, 2008
By Irwyn Greif, at his home

The Fourth Exodus is coming up, somewhere around the year 2012. The UFOs are on standby. They have ships that have been seen already. The eye-witnesses say some of them are the size of a football field. Some of the ships are capable of exiting millions of people in one ship, so do not be afraid. If you are exited, your body is gone but still, your essence, your spirit, your soul will be exited and each soul will go to where they belong, according to their level of evolution. Each soul is at a different level of evolution.
It is starting already. Within the next two or three years, the main enemy of the human race will not be terrorists; it will be nature. Nature will go on a rampage. Millions of people will be killed in earthquakes and seaquakes. Certain areas of the earth that have bad vibrations are targeted to be destroyed, to be eliminated as physical bodies, as physical continents, and countries, and locations. Japan is one of them. There is no judgment involved. This is matter of whoever is in a certain place is there because they belong in that place. The same way certain people did not go to the Trade Center because they were sick, or something distracted them so they weren’t at the Trade Center when thousands of people were killed. This was no accident.
Regarding Japan, whoever is there and whoever will be destroyed belongs there. There is an element of justice involved. This has to do with karma. This is unfinished karma. We’re talking about the Japanese civilization going back thousands of years. In my psychic information that I was given, one of the earliest races of man was in Japan. Japan was one of the earliest cradles of civilization. Not Africa. Africa was not one of the earliest cradles of civilization, even though evolution has made Africa as the source of the beginning of the human race. This is not true.
The Japanese have a bad history. They’ve always been very aloof and very snobbish, and very controlling of other Asian nations such as China. Japan is not a loved country in the Asian world. They have a lot of atrocities connected to them. So it is still unfinished karma. This is the finishing karma for the Japanese people. This could happen within the next two, three years. All of the islands that comprise Japan will go into the sea. Submarine earthquakes, volcanic submarine earthquakes will bring all of the islands of Japan under the ocean. There will be some survivors, the same as there were survivors in the Tsunami. And who were the survivors of the Tsunami? They were fishermen, whom I think were called gypsies, the gypsy people, because they were tuned into nature. They saw that the ocean was acting peculiar; they interpreted this as the force of nature and they docked their boats and they ran up to the main land, and they saved themselves. The other fishermen who were busy fishing at the time, who were not attuned to nature, perished.
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« Reply #1072 on: Mar 15th, 2011, 7:10pm »

on Mar 14th, 2011, 8:54pm, icepick wrote:
If you already hold such a definite bias, why bother to ask? I would suggest that unless you have definite knowledge of some master plan, that you at least be so polite as not to sneer? After all, none of us knows squat in this realm. We know what exists within the frequency of light and that is it. All else is an unknown to everybody.


I have no knowledge of a master plan but it seems like half the people who post on this board do.

The frequency of light..? Can you elaborate on what that is supposed to mean..?




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« Reply #1073 on: Mar 15th, 2011, 7:41pm »

[quote author=icepick link=board=angels&num=1050353322&start=1067#71 date=1300153553]

Not that I know of. While the Angels are definitely a go between from God to humanity, the concept that they are ETs is dubious in my opinion, but possible. I'm thinking about the part where it talks about a war in Heaven?


A "go between God"huh? What does that mean? And who is this God you speak of who appears to be a physical 3-D human-type being? I think some more thinking on this idea needs to take place. I get so frustrated because I can't explain what I know from my experiences with other Beings. I wish I could explain thinking with the INFINITE SOUL MIND rather than the FINITE BODY MIND. Angels exist in the next dimension that surrounds earth...some call it heaven. They are Beings in their own right. Also I'd like to know whatl you mean by ETs. That concept has become so distorted by Hollywood, science fiction to the point that people actually believe all that junk!!!

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« Reply #1074 on: Mar 15th, 2011, 10:19pm »

on Mar 14th, 2011, 9:51pm, MOKSHA wrote:
THANK YOU ICE,
I guess mr. 23 did not like my ant parody
that's OK, I never asked any one to believe any thing.
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No problem. Personally I have never been able to understand why, when somebody has a differing opinion that won't change, they will take the time to respond in a smart aleck fashion. Totally counterproductive, totally rude, and is guaranteed to make one look like a jerk.

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« Reply #1075 on: Mar 15th, 2011, 10:30pm »

The frequency of light. We can observe from the point where it first exists, to the highest speed/wavelength it can achieve. We can see nothing below, nor nothing faster. That, basically, is the frequency of light. Personally, I would rather live in the realm of the tachyon. Unfortunately the choice isn't mine to make.
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« Reply #1076 on: Mar 16th, 2011, 4:29pm »

on Mar 11th, 2011, 3:45pm, drwu23 wrote:
Just curious and this is for all those who are up on the angels =aliens idea.

Has there ever been a modern ufo encounter or abduction where the aliens actually admitted to being angels from heaven?
I have read a lot of ufo books over the years and I can't recall one.


Wracking my mind for a direct reference but can't find one, dr wu23.

But I've looked at this question in the past, and I'd say there is a pattern of association between these two classes of being: Angels & ETs. Abductees are heard to wonder whether they are connected or one and the same.

It makes much sense to me if there is a kind of misidentification going on. Folks coming from a religious background tend to mistake alien abductors for angelic. Happened to Betty Andreasson Luca who at first confused her abduction with a religious experience. What added to this problem was that her alien hosts exuded peace and love, and some of them were tall guys wearing white robes!

Alternatively modern nonbelievers could be assuming that spiritual entities descending from the sky must be NASA counterparts: ET astronauts!

Deciding on an Angel/Alien label is highly speculative imho, and to settle it we have to really get to know ETs on a personal level, travel between our and their worlds, totally understand their minds, physiology and (high) tech rolleyes !!


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« Reply #1077 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 3:35pm »

on Mar 15th, 2011, 10:30pm, icepick wrote:
The frequency of light. We can observe from the point where it first exists, to the highest speed/wavelength it can achieve. We can see nothing below, nor nothing faster. That, basically, is the frequency of light. Personally, I would rather live in the realm of the tachyon. Unfortunately the choice isn't mine to make.


I assume you are referring to the visible spectrum since anything beyond that in either direction is invisble to humans unless we use instrumentation to extend our senses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_spectrum
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« Reply #1078 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 3:39pm »

on Mar 16th, 2011, 4:29pm, purr wrote:
Wracking my mind for a direct reference but can't find one, dr wu23.

But I've looked at this question in the past, and I'd say there is a pattern of association between these two classes of being: Angels & ETs. Abductees are heard to wonder whether they are connected or one and the same.

It makes much sense to me if there is a kind of misidentification going on. Folks coming from a religious background tend to mistake alien abductors for angelic. Happened to Betty Andreasson Luca who at first confused her abduction with a religious experience. What added to this problem was that her alien hosts exuded peace and love, and some of them were tall guys wearing white robes!

Alternatively modern nonbelievers could be assuming that spiritual entities descending from the sky must be NASA counterparts: ET astronauts!

Deciding on an Angel/Alien label is highly speculative imho, and to settle it we have to really get to know ETs on a personal level, travel between our and their worlds, totally understand their minds, physiology and (high) tech rolleyes !!
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Thanks for the response.....
It does seem like some want to interpret Biblical and other texts in the light of space aliens instead of supernatural beings like angels. I think both interpretations are highly subjective according to personal beliefs.
I was curious if any 'abductees' or contactees' had ever been told by their 'alien' counterparts that they were 'angels' doing 'God's' work.
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« Reply #1079 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 4:10pm »

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the old testament is from the Hebrew, which was translated from the Greek text, the Greek text was translated from the Sumerian text, it is also called Cuneiform, if you are looking for written evidence, read your Bible.
try "JUDE" then compare the 9 different versions of the Bible and what is said in "JUDE"
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