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« Reply #1080 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 4:38pm »

on Mar 17th, 2011, 4:10pm, MOKSHA wrote:
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the old testament is from the Hebrew, which was translated from the Greek text, the Greek text was translated from the Sumerian text, it is also called Cuneiform, if you are looking for written evidence, read your Bible.
try "JUDE" then compare the 9 different versions of the Bible and what is said in "JUDE"
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You just supported my point above that there are those who wish to interpret the Bible according to their personal beliefs about aliens and angels.

BTW you have some of your textual history backwards and in error.
The Hebrew (early being Aramaic) was translated into Greek not from it and that was translated into Latin later and then English to create the King James Bible.
As far as Sumerian there are scholars that believe it did indeed influence the early Jewish myths of creation found in Genesis but it was not a translation per se by the early Hebrews as much as an influential paradigm they borrowed.
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« Reply #1081 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 4:57pm »

yes SIR, if I do have the who's on first stick confused, thank you for pointing that out, the Hebrew Text was filled with "MIDRUSH" and plenty was left out, the point of this for me is simple, so much teeters on the "LITERAL" translation of so few words, please we will respect your personal definition of these few words, and we will hope you can respect other definitions, don't we all get to have our personal RITE.
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« Reply #1082 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 10:36pm »

on Mar 17th, 2011, 3:35pm, drwu23 wrote:
I assume you are referring to the visible spectrum since anything beyond that in either direction is invisble to humans unless we use instrumentation to extend our senses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_spectrum


Yes, of course. This is where we live (well, one address at least) in the scheme of things. I've wondered over the years if this is what the Trek writers meant by a subspace frequency. The first I remember reading about it was in some of the joint work done by Einstein and Rosen.

There are ways developed by these two initially where entities can be predicted beyond either end of the spectrum, most notably the tachyon which can't slow down to the speed of light.
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« Reply #1083 on: Mar 17th, 2011, 11:04pm »

on Mar 17th, 2011, 4:38pm, drwu23 wrote:
As far as Sumerian there are scholars that believe it did indeed influence the early Jewish myths of creation found in Genesis but it was not a translation per se by the early Hebrews as much as an influential paradigm they borrowed.
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Actually, if you take something from the Bible as historical fact, then you will realize that the Sumerians and the Hebrews are the same people. Abraham was a Crown Prince of Ur. The Sumerians disappeared mysteriously around 2,000 BC. The Hebrews first appeared at the time of the Exodus, which is either 1,550 BC or 1,450 BC depending on who you listen to.

The Sumerians were known as mighty and innovative warriors.

The Hebrews are mighty and innovative warriors.

The Sumerians referred to themselves as "the black headed people", which is the standard hair color for true Hebrews.

The Sumerians created the first known writing system.

The Hebrews created the first known alphabet.

The Sumerians were incredibly advanced for their time.

The Hebrews were incredibly advanced for their time.

The Sumerians kept immaculate records.

The Hebrews kept immaculate records. In fact, open minded historians believe that the improvement in Egyptian records that happened sometime after 2,000 BC was due to contact with the Hebrews.

Sure, it's all circumstantial evidence. But how many similarities do you want? As far as I can tell, the Sumerians left Mesopotamia for some reason or other shortly after 2,000 BC and emerged in Egypt as the Hebrews soon thereafter. Indications are that they were not slaves initially either, but master builders who were responsible for the vastly improved Egyptian architecture of the New Kingdom era. And, as many scholars have speculated, mercenary warriors that helped to protect the Egyptian borders. It is also theorized that their prowess as warriors is what caused their enslavement. Or, they became perceived as a threat, and the Egyptians used their superior numbers to put them in chains. It should be noted here as well that their small population was the only thing that prevented ancient Israel from being far more of a world power during that era as it is further evidence of this hypothesis yet. Even the Romans had a lot of problems subduing the Israelites.

It's all there. Everything necessary for a solid theory. The only thing preventing it seems to be the eternal need of science to prove the Bible wrong as historical fact. Curious thing too, as science has been bitten many, many times in this endeavor, and is still batting a solid zero.

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« Reply #1084 on: Mar 18th, 2011, 3:34pm »

on Mar 17th, 2011, 11:04pm, icepick wrote:
Actually, if you take something from the Bible as historical fact, then you will realize that the Sumerians and the Hebrews are the same people. Abraham was a Crown Prince of Ur. The Sumerians disappeared mysteriously around 2,000 BC. The Hebrews first appeared at the time of the Exodus, which is either 1,550 BC or 1,450 BC depending on who you listen to.

The Sumerians were known as mighty and innovative warriors.

The Hebrews are mighty and innovative warriors.

The Sumerians referred to themselves as "the black headed people", which is the standard hair color for true Hebrews.

The Sumerians created the first known writing system.

The Hebrews created the first known alphabet.

The Sumerians were incredibly advanced for their time.

The Hebrews were incredibly advanced for their time.

The Sumerians kept immaculate records.

The Hebrews kept immaculate records. In fact, open minded historians believe that the improvement in Egyptian records that happened sometime after 2,000 BC was due to contact with the Hebrews.

Sure, it's all circumstantial evidence. But how many similarities do you want? As far as I can tell, the Sumerians left Mesopotamia for some reason or other shortly after 2,000 BC and emerged in Egypt as the Hebrews soon thereafter. Indications are that they were not slaves initially either, but master builders who were responsible for the vastly improved Egyptian architecture of the New Kingdom era. And, as many scholars have speculated, mercenary warriors that helped to protect the Egyptian borders. It is also theorized that their prowess as warriors is what caused their enslavement. Or, they became perceived as a threat, and the Egyptians used their superior numbers to put them in chains. It should be noted here as well that their small population was the only thing that prevented ancient Israel from being far more of a world power during that era as it is further evidence of this hypothesis yet. Even the Romans had a lot of problems subduing the Israelites.

It's all there. Everything necessary for a solid theory. The only thing preventing it seems to be the eternal need of science to prove the Bible wrong as historical fact. Curious thing too, as science has been bitten many, many times in this endeavor, and is still batting a solid zero.

Take care
Tim


You are right on target in that the ancient 'Hebrews' came out of Ur and were obviously 'Sumerian' at one time.
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« Reply #1085 on: Mar 18th, 2011, 5:50pm »

Well, I only wish I could figure out the difficult part. The missing pieces. What happened in between.

I have a hunch that there is far more to this story. Actually, that there is far more to the Sumerian-Hebrew story in general. Sumer had far too many firsts for me to be comfortable with it. So I find myself wondering where they came from? What great civilization did they stem from?

Somewhere out there lies the answer to those questions. And with it you just might find the answer to things like the pyramids. Maybe there was some civilization that was destroyed when a huge ice dam broke at the end of the Pleistocene or something of that nature. The people who founded Sumer could have been the survivors. I don't really know, and I don't pretend to. I only know that there have been far too many out of place artifacts, far too many unexplainable issues, and other things of this nature for us to willingly accept the theories as they stand. Somewhere out there lay some answers. I wish I would be around to see these mysteries solved, but that is truly dubious.

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« Reply #1086 on: Mar 19th, 2011, 08:34am »

on Mar 13th, 2011, 11:53am, Easternbluestar wrote:
The body is a corporal flesh body which is full of parasites and disease, and as we age, the ravages of age start showing; but as SOUL, the essence could easily take on another vessel in another dimension. That possibility does makes sense to me!

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I agree. It's actually the only thing that DOES make sense...!
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« Reply #1087 on: Mar 19th, 2011, 09:39am »

I don't assume I have any concrete answers either, I have always wondered what if!!!
with artifacts on planets and moons in our own solar system, makes me wonder, is it possible, Mars, Venus, Mercury, once were in the sweet zone and could have HOUSED LIFE, just a crazy thought from a crazy guy.
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« Reply #1088 on: Mar 25th, 2011, 1:03pm »

I have tried to cover the issues which you have posted in this forum in my latest book entitled, "The Living Universe". The theme of this book is that the human mind is primarily an animal mind and needs to have a"father figure"and a "family" environment. As a result, God is referred to as "He" or father God and the Angels are male or female.
We cannot comprehend that God is not an individual person with a sexual identity and a personalized name. We also cannot comprehend that Angels are high intensity energy beings who can project images which appeared to be human.We must raise our level of consciousness in order to understand ourselves and the Universe we live in.
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« Reply #1089 on: Mar 25th, 2011, 10:10pm »

You got it Irwyn! Body=Animal
Soul=Spiritual
Body=Finite
Soul=Infinite
Through the eyes of the Soul one can understand!!
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« Reply #1090 on: Mar 27th, 2011, 9:25pm »

The Angels are neither male nor female. We have it on good authority.
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« Reply #1091 on: Mar 28th, 2011, 5:14pm »

on Mar 27th, 2011, 9:25pm, LEVIATHAN wrote:
The Angels are neither male nor female. We have it on good authority.
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Whose authority , please
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« Reply #1092 on: Mar 29th, 2011, 10:40am »

I agree that Angels are androgyne.They can manifest as either male or female. If you are a religous Hebrew they may come to you as Moses, if you are a religous Christian, the same Angel may come to you as Jesus or Mary.

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« Reply #1093 on: Mar 29th, 2011, 4:32pm »

on Mar 27th, 2011, 9:25pm, LEVIATHAN wrote:
The Angels are neither male nor female. We have it on good authority.
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What..? Did you make them drop their drawers so you could take a look?

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« Reply #1094 on: Mar 29th, 2011, 6:25pm »

MR<>23, what do you mean is YOU
when you ask the question, did you make them drop their pants/drawers?
and why are you like you ARE
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