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« Reply #1380 on: Oct 8th, 2011, 07:51am »

Moksha, It is very difficult for me to explain what I have been taught as my belief system. I am afraid that I will offend some posters and lose their respect.

I believe that God is not a person with an individual identity or can be understood but is rather an energy being which is the total of all that exists. I cannot accept the man Jesus as being the “son of God”. I communicate directly with Angels and to me they are my connection to God. I also have been connected to U.F.Os.

I have been told that our bodies were not created in the image of God but only our souls and that the Saurian race were contracted to design our bodies and that the Angel Jehovah was given the task of teaching the human race.

All of this is written in my books,”Other Dimensions”and “The Living Universe” available from Amazon and Barnes and Noble.

I hope I have not offended anyone.

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« Reply #1381 on: Oct 9th, 2011, 08:19am »

on Oct 8th, 2011, 07:51am, timetraveler wrote:
Moksha, It is very difficult for me to explain what I have been taught as my belief system. I am afraid that I will offend some posters and lose their respect.

I believe that God is not a person with an individual identity or can be understood but is rather an energy being which is the total of all that exists. I cannot accept the man Jesus as being the “son of God”. I communicate directly with Angels and to me they are my connection to God. I also have been connected to U.F.Os.

I have been told that our bodies were not created in the image of God but only our souls and that the Saurian race were contracted to design our bodies and that the Angel Jehovah was given the task of teaching the human race.

All of this is written in my books,”Other Dimensions”and “The Living Universe” available from Amazon and Barnes and Noble.

I hope I have not offended anyone.

Irwyn Greif

Thanks Irwyn for the names of your books.
The concept of the FAMILY, is a little funny to me too SIR, it seems to be missing MOMMA, where is MOMMA?
I have researched as many of the worlds religions as I could, I see a common theme, something comes from the heavens, shakes the finger at us Humans and says behave, and I WILL BE BACK.
Here is a link I found very insight full about world religions.
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« Reply #1382 on: Oct 9th, 2011, 08:27am »

I need to explain myself a little better. I do believe in God as being the highest energy and being All in All. However, I do not believe that God is a person having a sexual identity or an individual “self”.

I believe that Jesus is the son of man and not the son of God. I am spiritual but I am not religious and I do not follow the structured dogma of any religion.

I answer to a “higher authority” and I am not taught by man but by Angels and U.F.O.s.

I hope that this posting does not alienate me from any members.

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« Reply #1383 on: Oct 9th, 2011, 08:43am »

Irwyn,
I do not see or feel much different then you or your "WORD"
I welcome a higher understanding, the conflicts between the different believe systems have been around for a very long time.
that can not be changed, we can try to understand and respect new and different concepts of CREATION of ENERGIES.
however, I do consider we are, ALL IN THE FAMILY, we have yet to perfect this concept for some reason.
for me IRWYN, you have NOT alienated me in any way, there is a reason why I used the name JESUS=444, there are two other Biblical names that also add up to 444, I left their names out of my postings, to minimize the conflict.
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« Reply #1384 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 09:32am »

Moksha;

We are living in the last days of this civilization. What is happening now is that old religions are being challenged with the end result being one religion with one God.
Science is also being challenged in order to get a more cosmic understanding. The UFOs are engaged in inspiring the scientific community to discover stealth technology and the possibility of Inter-dimensional time travel.
We’re going past science fiction into a greater reality.

The human race insists on limiting everything to fit its animal mentality. Therefore, God is given a sexual identity and is called Father. Mary becomes Mother and Jesus becomes the son of god. The,“holy family”. This scenario is more comfortable than the actual reality. It is very difficult for the human mind to comprehend that God and the Angels are energy beings without any individual or sexual identity.

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« Reply #1385 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 1:47pm »

on Oct 4th, 2011, 5:45pm, MOKSHA wrote:
Irwyn, you can challenge man made religions all you want, that is your open right, who made man?
why did GOD allow this type of corruption?
everything has a reason right?
maybe you should consider humility before judging God.
I have always respected what you have posted,
and hope to continue this respect.
MKW

My opinion and from my teachers I have this response:
1. There are two aspects to humans (man)...1 the body, 2 the soul. the body belongs to the earth and had a significant evolutionary process in that role, the soul is what I can best describe as the aspect that is the "off-world" essence of our existence. At death of body, the body returns to dust like all other aspects of the earth, the soul does not, but goes back to the point of origin, and on to other worlds, other dimensions in other forms.

2. God is ALL, as such our souls, our bodies are part of that ALL ... in other words the destruction of man's world is the destruction caused by man.

3. who made man? evolution on this planet to a level needed to allow the soul to exist on this planet. A lot of DNA had to be configured and reconfigured until the soul was able to live and work on this planet.
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« Reply #1386 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 1:56pm »

on Oct 7th, 2011, 07:36am, MOKSHA wrote:

1. I have researched the Bible as a mathematical document. (Very good)
2. I thought I was going to have to learn either Greek or Hebrew to further my research, but I think I was wrong. (I would think it important to learn these languages to get a better understanding)
3. It is written in the Bible that GOD created the Heavens and the Earth, in 6 days (only a way to tell a story to humans of a different know with limited knowledge. who could not comprehend the laws of physics, etc that we now know)


Moksha: My own understanding and that from which my studies have obtained from a Presbyterian college and Theological seminar is this: The Bible was written by people of an age long long ago with concepts from their own time and history. I don't disagree there are miracles recorded in the Bible and that numerology has it's place; however we must be able to as I say "believe everything and believe nothing, and then you will know." That is, be open to all points of learning.
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« Reply #1387 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 2:01pm »

Irwyn, the classrooms aboard UFOs or even in forests or other places, but mainly the clasroom in my dream tme is also the way I receive my guidance and information. Perhaps at some time or another we were in the same classes!!! smiley grin
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« Reply #1388 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 2:04pm »

on Oct 9th, 2011, 08:19am, MOKSHA wrote:
I have researched as many of the worlds religions as I could, I see a common theme, something comes from the heavens, shakes the finger at us Humans and says behave, and I WILL BE BACK.
Here is a link I found very insight full about world religions.
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Moksha, have you read the Baha'i Writings? Much of what my off-world family has taught me I have found later in the Baha'i Writings.
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« Reply #1389 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 2:14pm »

on Oct 10th, 2011, 2:04pm, LoriCordini wrote:
Moksha, have you read the Baha'i Writings? Much of what my off-world family has taught me I have found later in the Baha'i Writings.

I don't think so Lori, when I seen that ALL the different Religions ARE based from the same source I knew what ever I red, the story theme would be the same, just different names or figures.
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« Reply #1390 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 2:21pm »

on Oct 10th, 2011, 09:32am, timetraveler wrote:
Moksha;

We are living in the last days of this civilization. What is happening now is that old religions are being challenged with the end result being one religion with one God.
Science is also being challenged in order to get a more cosmic understanding. The UFOs are engaged in inspiring the scientific community to discover stealth technology and the possibility of Inter-dimensional time travel.
We’re going past science fiction into a greater reality.

The human race insists on limiting everything to fit its animal mentality. Therefore, God is given a sexual identity and is called Father. Mary becomes Mother and Jesus becomes the son of god. The,“holy family”. This scenario is more comfortable than the actual reality. It is very difficult for the human mind to comprehend that God and the Angels are energy beings without any individual or sexual identity.

Irwyn

Irwyn, what you just wrote there sounds JUST like the NWO
in this new WORD from Irwyn, is there free speech? free thought? free will? matter of choice? freedom from a dictatorship? or do we all just have to bow and obey?
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« Reply #1391 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 2:26pm »

on Oct 10th, 2011, 1:56pm, LoriCordini wrote:
Moksha: My own understanding and that from which my studies have obtained from a Presbyterian college and Theological seminar is this: The Bible was written by people of an age long long ago with concepts from their own time and history. I don't disagree there are miracles recorded in the Bible and that numerology has it's place; however we must be able to as I say "believe everything and believe nothing, and then you will know." That is, be open to all points of learning.

Dear Lori, you might want to consider the college, lied to you,
we have all been lied to.
the people before the Hebrews were much more advanced then we are now, I am not asking you to believe me, we have documented evidence of this.
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« Reply #1392 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 2:37pm »

Again I state, humans are entering the next phase of their evolutionary process...this is a spiritual phase...where the world will become as one country, where all religions will realize they are all the same, that is One God, One Religion.

There are opposing forces that I have encountered, both human and off-world who have been working together for eons. All of existence is made up of positive-negative energy, this needed to keep Existence in motion. However, on this planet it has become out of balance and the "darkness" has turned into an evil, self-serving power that will eventually be brought back into balance, but not until the population of earth in greater numbers realizes the control this energy has had over them...i.e., just take note of politics, economics, tv programs, advertising and you will see it at work. To "fight" back with negative energy just continues to feed that power of darkness...be positive, keep the light of unconditional love aflame. Associate with those of light minds and hearts and the banner of Unconditional Love will Light the Darkness so brightly (literally) that those currently in power will succumb. In the 1970s I found myself amid the workers of the Dark Side (literally) they tried to mold me to use my psychic gifts for their cause, but I never let go of my positive energy, I was strong and unlike 95% of those who are trained...I left the "company" and survived. I was programed to kill myself should I remember what I witnessed and to this day, I am quite physically impaired from the drugging, manipulating, testing and mind control, but my soul is in tact and my health managable. One of my doctors noted damage to my left eye that indicated a large flash of light and damage from a laser weapon in 1971-73 period...the time I was shot down over Edwards AFB. (laser weapons not yet available to public) We will prevail. Never fight back in traditional ways, let your soul reach out with strength and this Light will prevail over the Darkness. The Earth was created as one of the most unique and diverse planets in all of Existence...do you think for one second the Beings of Light would allow it to be destroyed by those of Darkness? I think not.
Ala and Ala, I remain The Watana.
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« Reply #1393 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 3:09pm »

VERY GOOD Lori,
I think we should be very cautious, and never under estimate the craft of the evil forces, they have had a long time to practice, and from my perspective, which is like yours, they got very good at what they do.
maybe we should think first before we just jump, and from what you have posted, you seem to have witnessed things, what I like about you, is your never back down attitude, even after verbal abuse from other posters.
I will confess this, if I detect the lack of free will in this new age religion I will scream foul, at the top of my lungs.
I understand the flow of energy, I have also researched, unified field theory, SAME/SAME, it is the frequency and the vibration we Humans have very little understanding of.
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« Reply #1394 on: Oct 10th, 2011, 3:30pm »

on Oct 10th, 2011, 3:09pm, MOKSHA wrote:
VERY GOOD Lori,
what I like about you, is your never back down attitude, even after verbal abuse from other posters.


I share a story. I worked at a mental health agency for 18 years, retired in 2005. I overheard two people talking about me...and of course, I stopped to listen.

A. I don't understand. Why doesn't Lori defend herself?

B. Because she doesn't have to.

That about explains it...I don't feel offended, because I don't take offense. If they have something new to add and it makes sense, then I will take what a person has to say seriously...if they simply are backbiting and condemn what I say, I don't have to defend what I know to be the truth. Were I to take defense, wouldn't that say I am not certain of what I said was true? And, perchance at a future time I learn new facts that change what I think, then I will change my thoughts and views accordingly.

To cause disruption, discontent, by belittling another's thought is in poor manners and shows that person lacks spiritual maturity. To disagree is not a problem, to be beligerent about it is not appropriate to good fellowship and group dynamics.
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