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« Reply #1455 on: Oct 30th, 2011, 2:05pm »

on Apr 16th, 2003, 2:03pm, hjdelight wrote:
Hi Time!

Yes, what the grays do seems like a psychic mind control. Yes some of the options you mentioned are possible explainations for a saucer to disappear. Either I guess, or neither could explain what happened in the silos. I suppose you are saying that because there is possibly a psychic aspect to UFOs, we should include angels and spirituality in their discussion? Correct me if I am wrong in this interpretation.

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How prominent are the "grays" in contact with everyday folks? Or are they simply those working with those who are working with humans to control and manipulate earth affairs? I have only had working contact with spiritual off-world beings--and this would include "angels" or Light Being species. The only "negative-soul-less" species I have been introduced to are the "deceivers."
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« Reply #1456 on: Oct 30th, 2011, 2:17pm »

How about the Grays, if they exist, as artificial life forms? They certainly have the characteristics if the reports are accurate. Many a superior intelligence might send something of this order for initial contact. A programmed being would be far more predictable than a biological one, which would remove most chances for the unintentional. Just a thought.
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« Reply #1457 on: Oct 30th, 2011, 2:28pm »

on Oct 29th, 2011, 01:53am, icepick wrote:
Yes, it would be nice. I was only pointing out the obvious.

Since the soul is the core of our being, our individuality resides in it. I was referring to the many despotic leaders who try and force everybody to think alike. Monarchs pulled that off in Medieval times, and just look at the wonderful results there.

Does that explain where I was coming from? Uniform thought conjurs up images of stories like Logan's Run in my mind. Or the Book of Revelations, it has that element too. It's far different than working for a common good, isn't it?


This is my understanding: The body belongs to the finite world--the soul to the infinite worlds. The body can be manipulated, harmed, etc., but the soul is the Light Being--the infinite-spiritual-part of us that is never-ending.
When I was in training for psychic espionage it was terrible. The mind control was beyond belief. But my soul self was strong and firm and my Spirit Guides stood beside me in full force and while I nearly wholly gave in and collapsed to their control, I was blessed to have never given in...I did however, experience April 9, 2001. Think it was 2001--a trial of full submission. My handler, Jon, was trying to convince me that in order to be completely loyal, to given my all to particularly US Gov. , I would have to finalize my total training and follow the dictates of my training and that was to literally (as I understood it) to give "give up my soul...to be under total psychic control of my superiors." There is one RULE that must be followed and that is the trainee has the right to make the total decision to say "yes or no" at a certain level. That is the only way that total loyalty can be established. For 24 hours I would be under their control and then make my decision. During that time it was like my soul was gone, I mean TOTALLY GONE. It was a strange feeling. I felt empty. I could make my own day to day simple decisions, but when they had a job for me to do, I would do it with no questions asked. The emptiness I felt, the separation from what I guess one would call "God" . I said "No." and
that has been that. I have more of my memories of the work they were doing with me, but I don't have the feeling of being lost, of wandering aimlessly and separated from the power of LOVE. We do have the choice to choose the Darkside or the Side of Light. It may sound Hollywood and a bit "hokey" but "as God is my witness that's the best I can describe it. Anyone else ever been connected to this phenomenon? Had this experience?
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« Reply #1458 on: Oct 30th, 2011, 4:26pm »

As far as your final paragraph is concerned, we always have a choice. If you're a believer, then you already know God will accept you back if you should wander. As far as your experience goes, that sounds pretty unique.

I find your statement about separation from God pretty interesting though. How would you manage to separate yourself from what you find within? There is a very good reason why one's relationship with God is so personal in nature after all. But as to who/what God truly is? Pretty tough question. Bigger than all of us is all I can offer.

There are verses in the Bible that reference something far greater than the average minister hands down on Sunday. But they are difficult to interpret. Some source obviously handed certain parts of the Bible down to humanity as higher knowledge, but some issues play here. One would be that it still had to be written by human hand, which immediately points to the next logical issue. Those hands were connected to a human mind educated at a time when humanity lacked much of the knowledge we enjoy today. Therefore it is feasible that they could not fully comprehend what they were being told, so the information would have had to be simplified, and put in terms they could relate to. See where I'm going with this?

Try the gospels pertaining to Jesus for an example. Even non-believers usually realize that Jesus possessed a higher understanding of things. Like the song says, a glimpse of the master plan so to speak. But that meant he had to relay his knowledge in a manner which made the disciples figure it out. Some of it seems perfectly clear today, some of it still seems mysterious. Some things really do need be taken in faith.

That's a lot to say just to drive this point home. Sometimes things are not as they seem. If you try hard enough, I'm sure you can reconcile with the concept that the emptiness you refer to was only an illusion? The human mind is so much more powerful than we even dream of. Often times it plays tricks on us so to speak. If one constantly tells somebody about untrue events they were involved in, often times that persons mind will eventually provide the corresponding memories, creating an alternative past reality as a result. And that is but a mild example of what it can do.

You know who you are, you know who you were, and you know what you want to be. Keep that in mind and, providing you're no an aspiring axe murderer or something, you will be fine. If your heart is truly good, none of life's experiences can damage you. They can cause grief and pain, but never damage if you don't dwell on them.
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« Reply #1459 on: Oct 30th, 2011, 6:02pm »

MOKSHA,

Hal,
I do not own any way.
what I own is mine.
what you own is yours.
the path you take, is the path you take.
the choice of right and wrong, is yours.
ALWAYS


Spoken like a true hippie.

A total non-answer. You need to do better than that.

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« Reply #1460 on: Oct 30th, 2011, 9:08pm »

YEA<>HAL,
My VW love bus outside, my backdoor is now a time gate.

Since you feel I need to do better, PLEASE tell me what I need to do.

I'll leave the creepy numerology/occult, separate, from complex, mathematics, can you?

Maybe you can help build the CYCLOTRON, for the MACHINE.
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« Reply #1461 on: Oct 31st, 2011, 08:39am »

We have some great stuff being posted here.
It is my belief that the “grays” are artificial intelligence constructions designed to operate and navigate UFOs. I believe that some of the UFOs are projections from Angels who cannot enter our physical world because they would electrocute us with their high frequency energy.

I do not believe that anybody can see an Angel in its true state except with their psychic “third eye” or in a dream or vision. I have seen Angels in their natural state with my psychic “third eye” and they looked like a brilliant “spark” of high voltage electricity. I notice that they had a black “thread” like something in the center and I assumed that this was their “identity “or “self”. The following is an actual contact experience which I had with a UFO;

I will post some of my own personal experiences to share with you and to encourage you to share with us.

I was south of Lexington Avenue and East 42nd Street in Manhattan and walking very briskly while trying to dodge the heavy pedestrian traffic.
As I was looking straight ahead, I suddenly felt my skull in the back of my head had been removed in an area of about 5 inches in diameter. It felt to me as if I was having a lobotomy operation and I could feel the coolness inside my head and a loss of bone density in this area. This area of my head had become numb. This feeling of numbness was very similar to the feeling that one experiences when a foot or an arm “falls asleep” due to the pinching off of a nerve.

Then I saw with amazing clarity, as if I had an eye in this “missing” area of my head, a disk shaped spacecraft which I “knew” to be about 250 miles above the Earth. This craft was gently rocking back and forth as if in a gentle magnetic breeze. I was able to “see” into the interior of the spacecraft whose dimensions I sensed to be about 18 feet in diameter by about nine feet high.
I saw three “men” inside this craft. They all appeared to be about 5 ft. 7 inches tall. They all had white skin, black hair, gray eyes, and they all looked identical in appearance. They were each dressed in a gray colored mechanics type overall, which had no buttons or zippers or any apparent method of opening or closing this garment.
One “man” had his back to me and was seated on a raised plastic type molded chair. He was facing a crescent shaped keyboard of many different colored lights. This keyboard somehow reminded me of the music organ at Radio City Music Hall. I “knew” that this keyboard was the operating panel for the spaceship.
Another “man” was walking from the left side of the vessel toward the center. The third “man” was bent over a central support column which ran from the ceiling to the floor and made me think of the center axis of a gyroscope. He was peering into a black binocular type sighting device, which somehow reminded me of a Norden bomb-sight. I realized that he was watching me through this instrument.

Then I saw what looked like a steel cable coming from the bottom of the spacecraft and connecting to the back of my head, and although I knew it was not a physical cable, I sensed that it was to show me that a communication connection had been made from the spaceship to my brain. The cable followed my every movement as I dodged the human traffic on the street, and I felt that I was connected mentally to that spaceship.
During that day at work I tried to believe that this experience had really happened to me, but it was so unbelievable to me that my mind was inclined to dismiss it as an hallucination.
When I returned home that night after work, within a block of my house I saw a brilliant flash of silver light streak from one end of the sky to the other like the blurred movement of a silver colored metallic object. This silver light traveled across the sky at a speed almost too fast for the eye to follow. At this point I looked at my watch and I saw that the time was exactly 3:40 AM, exactly 12 hours after the UFO sighting experience. I took this to be a confirmation from the spacecraft that my experience had been real.




What do you think? Irwyn
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« Reply #1462 on: Oct 31st, 2011, 10:28am »

Thank you Moksha for loaning me the “Book of Enoch”. I have finished it and you can retrieve it at your convenience. Please allow me to review this book.

I found this book to be enlightening and well written. Enoch apparently had a “mission” to be taught by Angels everything on Heaven and Earth and to be a Prophet and a teacher to communicate to Mankind everything which he was taught. This communication was also intended to prepare the human race for what was to come in the future.
I quote a passage from this book,” by faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death and he was not found because God translated him and Enoch was no more”.
[I interpret this to mean that God created Enoch, from his energy body and when Enoch’s “mission” was complete, God “absorbed” Enoch into His energy body again.]
According to Enoch there are seven Archangels. They are, Uriel, Raphael, Michael, Gabriel, Raguel, Saragael and Demiel.
According to Enoch in “the last days” of this civilization, there will be a “judgment day” when Michael, who is the head of the Archangels, will punish Satan and the other “fallen Angels” who disobeyed God and cohabited with the women of the Earth and had offspring. These same “fallen Angels” visited the people on Earth and taught them how to make weapons and they instigated and directed wars and massacres.
The “Son of Man”, AKA, “The Elect One” will judge the sins of Man and deliver the sinners to the Angels.

Note : The implication of these passages is very significant. It implies that “rogue” Angels or Extraterrestrials posing as gods used mankind to participate in “war games” to satisfy their egos and to supply them with entertainment.
What do you think? Irwyn Greif
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« Reply #1463 on: Oct 31st, 2011, 11:47pm »

So you've already read the Book of Watchers?
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« Reply #1464 on: Nov 1st, 2011, 3:34pm »

Don, there is undisputed proof that we have been visited and influenced by ETs for thousands of years. The pyramids of Egypt could not have been built without help from higher civilizations. The history of all of the cultures indicate that “gods” came down from heaven and cohabited with the female population. Also the legends speak of the “gods of war” leading the armies into battle.
There is no way that the military could have discovered modern technology of warfare such as “stealth” technology and plasma ray machines without help and advice from higher civilizations. Technology and science has advanced too quickly in the last 20 years to be the result of research and development.
This world appears to be on a “crash program” to expand our limits of science and technology to finish before the end of 2012.

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« Reply #1465 on: Nov 1st, 2011, 3:48pm »

....there is undisputed proof that we have been visited and influenced by ETs for thousands of years....


Undisputed ??

Well, if you say so.

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« Reply #1466 on: Nov 1st, 2011, 9:54pm »

Not only have humans been "influenced" by off worlders, we are most definitely hybrids of off-worlders. All of the Universe, all of Existence has the same components, for that we know as a fact. The soul (or Light Being Species) is the primary sentient form. Each planet is hybridized by the Light Being Species to sustain on the planet where it colonizes to fit the components of that planet. Primates of earth evolved to the point where they could be hybridized and live on this planet. Another planet might be another evolved component that is sustainable to that planet. Irwyn I am sure you understand what I am saying...anyone else? If not, I will try to find the words to explain further.
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« Reply #1467 on: Nov 1st, 2011, 10:00pm »

PS..that is not to say that the "Manager of all of Existence" commonly called GOD universally is not the primary Creator.
The composite of all Existence, the Primary Organizer is called God in all parts of Existence. Therefore, there is no basic religion of etc. There is only one God, so one religion, one sustaining order should be recognized. Each planet received great teachers from time to time in order to nudge the evolving beings on each planet into greater understanding. It's kind of an ongoing plan of creation. Motion is needed for constant creation. Think of a pond without motion it becomes stagnant....positive/negative energy is needed for motion to take place.
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« Reply #1468 on: Nov 2nd, 2011, 12:57am »

on Nov 1st, 2011, 9:54pm, LoriCordini wrote:
Not only have humans been "influenced" by off worlders, we are most definitely hybrids of off-worlders. All of the Universe, all of Existence has the same components, for that we know as a fact. The soul (or Light Being Species) is the primary sentient form. Each planet is hybridized by the Light Being Species to sustain on the planet where it colonizes to fit the components of that planet. Primates of earth evolved to the point where they could be hybridized and live on this planet. Another planet might be another evolved component that is sustainable to that planet. Irwyn I am sure you understand what I am saying...anyone else? If not, I will try to find the words to explain further.


Correct. The line "in our image" is highly misunderstood. Image doesn't necessarily have to mean appearance. We are meant to be as one eventually, just not in the way most people think. Individuality is necessary to prevent that stagnation you speak of.

I believe what comes next is the real world. This is but a place to grow and learn. Any suffering here will only make one better there. It might be a difficult concept for many to grasp, but I have confidence this is the way things are. If humans had to deal with what's here as all, the world would probably be reduced to rubble in twenty minutes.

If we didn't have to answer? Can you imagine what the sociopaths might do?
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« Reply #1469 on: Nov 2nd, 2011, 09:13am »

This “Prophetic” message was received by me at 8:00 AM today.

The “Day of Judgment” will arrive in the winter of 2012.
There will be a great battle in the sky between the “Angels of Light” and the “fallen Angels” and “unclean spirits” and for seven days and seven nights the Heavens and Earth shall be illuminated with a bright light that shall be brighter than the Sun. The Heavens and the Earth shall tremble from the intensity of this battle. The “Angels of Light” will be led by the Archangel Michael.
All of the electrical power on Earth will be disrupted and shut off except for the power necessary for “life- saving” necessities.
The “righteous” and the “believers” in the “one true God” will not be harmed but the unbelievers and the sinners will become fearful and the darkness in their “spirits” will cause their self-destruction. They will literally sit in judgment upon themselves.
Satan’s reign will be vanquished and “The Kingdom of God” shall be established on Earth forever.

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