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« Reply #15 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 7:09pm »

To backlit and all; in my contacts with higher intelligence I experienced nothing evil. They do not own me and I am not their slave. The feeling that I had when I was contacted was the feeling of great respect and awe. These experiences expanded my mind and raised my consciousness.
I cannot consider this evil. I have been attacked many times by evil forces who have taken different forms. In one instance; I had finished doing what I thought was a great psychic reading and I was mentally flattering myself. At this time I was taking a shower in a bathtub at home. All of a sudden I saw at the other end of this bathtub a 6 foot tall reddish cat wearing a tuxedo and standing on his hindlegs like a human. I was being smothered by a heavy smell like sulphur or like the smell of a cat in heat. I was being suffocated and I was having difficulty breathing. As I couldn't breathe and I was afraid that I was going to die I instinctively thought God help me. At that instant the giant cat disappeared and I was able to breathe again. But the horrible smell stayed in my nostrils and in my mind for several weeks after. That was an evil attack.
My psychic and U.F.O. experiences are detailed in my book and from time in these forums I relate stories from my book. Irwyn
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 24th, 2003, 7:19pm »

Regarding the contacts; sometimes I see a beautiful blue light like a ball of energy in the center of the room and I know that this is not just a ball of energy but it is a living being. Another time when I was at work and I was writing on a white sheet of paper I saw on this sheet of paper a brilliant spark of light that was infinitesimally small and was so bright that it turned the white sheet of paper black. I cannot call these beings to contact me and they somehow chose their own time and place. Does anyone have similar experiences? Irwyn
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« Reply #17 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 1:38pm »

I just received this via e-mail which because of the length I will divide it into two replies;
UFO CRASHES IN RUSSIAN HARBOR NEAR BALTIC FLEET



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KLININGRAD, RUSSIA -- Skywatch International Inc. reports that James L. Choron provided information regarding a crash of an unknown craft on Friday, April 18, 2003. The entire Russian Baltic Fleet and a large number or residents of Kaliningrad (formerly Koenigsburg), a city of over 3 million inhabitants, in the Russian Baltic enclave on the Baltic Sea, watched in awe as a "flying wing" shaped UFO winged over rapidly and plunged into Kaliningrad Harbor at 6:17 PM, local time. The event was caught on videotape by a local RTR Russian State Television news crew, which was present on the massive naval base, filming a documentary segment on the fleet for airing on Russian television. The UFO, described as a "Flying Wing," with two elongated, dome like protrusions on top, and three similar structures, underneath, was over flying the Baltic Fleet. According to a Russian Naval Commander, the craft was apparently caught, accidentally, with in the sweep patterns of ship mounted search radar's, which came on to track it's progress, causing some sort of malfunction which resulted in the crash. "It was traveling at a tremendous rate of speed" he said to RTR reporters, on the scene. "It was very low, not more than 1,500 meters (5,000 feet) altitude, when our radar's came on. It simply winged over, and dove into the water, as if it has lost either power, or control." The light gray colored craft, with no apparent "seams" or rivet patterns visible, was estimated by onlookers to be the size of a small airliner, and traveling at speeds in excess of Mach 2 (twice the speed of sound), was absolutely quiet as it passed, but made a "tremendous noise" as it plunged into the water, causing a geyser of steam and water, mixed with small debris, which shot an estimated 500 meters (1500 feet) into the air.

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« Reply #18 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 1:39pm »

Part two of two;

A civilian onlooker, said, "That whoever was in control of the craft made a deliberate effort to take it away from the naval ships and the shoreline before it went into the harbor." One Sovremini Class Destroyer was lightly damaged by flying debris, but, so far, no casualties have been reported. Radiation levels at the site, are high, but the source of the radiation, as well as it's nature, have yet to be determined. Russian authorities, from the Ministry of Health, are quick to point out that the radiation levels are not dangerous, simply "higher than normal." So far, debris recovered have been small, averaging less than a meter (just over three feet) in diameter, at the largest. Most debris recovered, to date, have been what appear to be "skin material" of an unknown alloy, and interior bracing and piping, composed of a very high grade and extremely pure aluminum. All metal debris have been dispatched to various institutes and universities for analysis, including the prestigious Bauman Institute of Engineering, in Moscow, and the Moscow State University School of Metallurgy. It is considered highly doubtful that any significant remains of crew, if, in fact, the vehicle was piloted, will be recovered. "This looks like your basic 'hair, teeth and eyeballs' situation, one Russian Navy diver said, somewhat grimly. It is interesting to note that, in spite of the high speed at which the craft was traveling, and it's extremely low altitude, there was no characteristic "sonic boom" associated with it's approach, and no noticeable vibration on the ground. This has led many observers, especially those associated with the Russian military establishment to speculate that the propulsion system of the craft was based on some sort of "antigravity" device. "Whatever it was," said one Russian Naval Captain, "it was certainly not one of our craft, and I am also not aware of anything of this sort being present in the West." The immediate area of the crash will be dredged, starting in the next several days.

The entire episode is noteworthy in that it was not only captured on videotape by an RTR news crew, but was instantly aired, not only on RTR, but on all major Russian Network television, via a live feed from the RTR crew, in Kaliningrad. Updates have followed on each regular news broadcast, since the initial downing. Russian Government officials are quick to point out that the downing was, in fact, accidental, and not a "shoot down."

Divers, however, report that the water in the vicinity of the crash is, in fact, noticeably, several degrees warmer than normal. The water surrounding the crash site is, understandably, reported to be "murky" with extremely poor visibility. This leads many of the divers and supervisory personnel to speculate that at least one relatively large fragment might exist. Wintersteel enjoys a very good relationship with the Russian Navy, as well as with the mainstream Russian media, and will be posting photographs of the site, and debris recovered, as soon as they become available. Thanks to Skywatch International and James Chorton, Wintersteel, http://wintersteel.homestead.com/UFO_Crash_Ru.html.

Editor's Note: It seems a crash of this magnitude would be reported world wide. It seems that if we wanted to obtain intelligence on the Russian fleet, satellites would have been used rather than a low flying craft. The Russians and the US are thought to own craft of this description.

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« Reply #19 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 1:45pm »

Addendum to this UFO story;

I seem to recall a UFO sighting a number of years ago in which an observor reported that the UFO wobbled when it came close to a radar installation. Irwyn
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« Reply #20 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 1:47pm »

Irwyn, please do not take this the wrong way but I feel Backlits questions still have not been answered. I find this an extremley complicated and confussing subject. Is there no easier way of putting this topic. There must be quite a few other people who would like know what this subject is all about. May I also say that if a topic is to confussing or complicated People will just pass it by. Many thanks Irwyn.
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« Reply #21 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 5:25pm »

to rob and backlit; I am trying to answer backlit's questions as simply as I can. it is difficult to explain the paranormal. I do not contact these beings by meditation but they do somehow monitor my thoughts so that events happen that seem to be connected to my thoughts. For instance, when I was being developed psychically I would see an advertisement sign in my mind in my room and when I went into the street I would see this same exact sign. This told me that these beings somehow could manipulate time and space.

I came to understand that these beings were in a different dimension but that they could manipulate time and were aware of future events. I do not wish to confuse anybody and if you'll ask me questions I shall try to answer them as clearly and simply as possible. Irwyn
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« Reply #22 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 6:18pm »

So what your saying then, is that these Beings are with us 24hrs a day, 7days a week, for eternity only in a different dimension. When they want to communicate they put an advertisment into your subconcious and then you would see this somewhere else. A bit like Deja vous, where like for instance, (and this is true by the way) I saw a picture of an oriental woman in my dreams when I was very young and when I was 18 years old I entered a young ladies house and saw the same exact picture hanging over her fireplace. Had I come to see my future or was it just a coincedence. When I first saw this I said "my god, I`ve been here before", and yet it was obvious I had not, but it was as clear in my mind as though it had only happend yesterday.
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« Reply #23 on: Apr 25th, 2003, 9:53pm »

Yes, it is a rough subject that we are discussing because it is not a "nuts and bolts" type of discussion. And some of it goes against our better judgement. But I feel their might be some kind of link here that may be of some use to those trying to pull this whole ufo thing together. While all things discussed might not be all truth, truth might dwell in some of the things discussed. Good golly did I say that! Jeez! Rob I did have a similar experience where I saw a rock being thrown through a window where I work in a dream and the next day when I drove to work it was real twilight zone when I pulled into the parking lot with the police cars and saw the rock on the floor through the broken glass. P.S. HJ, how is Orlando's book coming along?
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« Reply #24 on: Apr 26th, 2003, 11:49am »

LOL! smiley

I fear that his endeavor shall eventually engulf the whole website! It will slowly, like a giant tree root, invade and crush all storage capabilities available on the server!

Well, so much for the sarcasm. Hello all, the Ultimate Skeptic here! I agree with Backlit, there is a kernel here that is part of the "nuts & bolts" view but I see a problem also. When we view the UFO problem as a whole, we see evidence, real or faked, that we can point to and say "this has weight in the discussion". When we view the problem from a spiritual/ psychical/love/peace/light point of view, what do we have? We have someone's word that it is true and cannot say look "this has weight in the discussion" No offense to anyone and with complete respect, I would say that without something more than a person's necessarily subjective reports of their admittedly mental experiences, serious consideration by serious investigators cannot be expected. For example: A man I knew was suffering from brain cancer. He had miraculously beaten the cancer several times to the astonishment of the doctors. He told me he was visited by an angel that told him he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and would be returning to heaven soon after touching certain lives here on earth. He truly believed it. I didn't, of course being the Ultimate Skeptic. LOL! I was grateful though for the delusion since it made death almost welcomed for him. The point being, he had no proof other than his perceived reality and I had no proof other than his word. If I told you I was actually here on earth to experience corporeal life but really lived in another dimension, I couldn't prove it and you couldn't disprove it but you know what? There would be some people who would believe me.

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« Reply #25 on: Apr 26th, 2003, 3:05pm »

You guys are rough! Again let me outline my purpose in this topic. I am trying to add new dimensions of thinking and to encourage members to recall incidents in their past that were unusual or paranormal. We cannot have a slide ruler mind that requires physical and tangible proof of UFOs and of life. To answer rob; yes, these beings whether they are angels or UFOs are with us 24\7. They don't sleep. Don't limit them as to how they can communicate. Our limited brains cannot comprehend them. Just be thankful that they exist and that they monitor our lives. Many times to explain I use my personal experiences because I have asked the same questions as you.
Some time ago I had a dream, or vision. I saw on top of a hillock a magnificent black stallion and astride this horse I saw a figure in silver armor and the visor was open. I saw that this being was androgyne and had a beautiful face. This being held this powerful horse in check with a gentle hold on the reins. I felt great love for this being and a sense of connection. As I watched, this being turned the horse around and went downhill and went across the river. I was very sad because I knew that this was my guardian angel and that my guardian angel had left me. But then I received the reassuring message that this angel was assigned to me for a certain series of life's learning and now another guardian angel would take his place.

So we see that we are involved in a cosmic plan of evolution and that we are never alone. Irwyn
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« Reply #26 on: Apr 27th, 2003, 12:15am »

Sorry Irwyn. I don't think anyone is trying to make it rough on you. It's difficult to simply accept what you are saying. Yes, I believe you have experienced things but are these things real to anyone but you? You think so but can you prove it in any way? Blind faith produces cult members and I have yet to find anyone on this forum willing to drink that Kool-Aid. Well, rob may take a little sip once in a while. LOL!

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to hjdelight; I see where your coming from. unfortunately I cannot have a camera or tape recorder or an eyewitness with me whenever I experience a psychic event. I do not wish to start a cult and I am describing certain psychic events to show a greater range of possibilities for research and knowledge.

I have had a lifetime of being a psychic so I am familiar with the psychic world. The physical world is very limited, whereas the psychic world is very unlimited. For instance, a "remote viewer" can travel and see locations that have locked doors or that are inaccessible whereas the physical person cannot.

I wonder if a "remote viewer" can be used to see inside a "black hole" or inside the birth of a new star or to check out planets in our solar system?

If we had to verify scientifically, important events and happenings then our history books and religious books would have to be discarded.

Space is not the final frontier, the human mind is the final frontier. I hope I have not lost anybody on this trip. Irwyn
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« Reply #28 on: Apr 28th, 2003, 11:59am »

I am not sure how to reply to specific posts here - this is a response to:
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in all seriousness, a closed, or "serious" mind cannot OBSERVE what is being discussed.

Nevertheless, it is occurring all the time. If you have studied quantuum physics you would learn that Newtonian physics do not apply. Light, approached with the density of a "serious" mind, does not allow that mind to penetrate it.
The mind cannot penetrate light. It can only reflect it. Therefore, there is the aspect of "BEING" it or "ALLOWING". The OBSERVER mind needs to be AWARE. However, FIRST, you need to be AWARE you haver an OBSERVER mind... which is not the limited or "educated" (I prefer the term "programmed") mind.

Mind you, this is a serious subject that must be approached "Light"-ly - in order to learn, you need to be receptive - and even OBSERVE how receptive you are.

It could be you are being monitored by "controllers" that do not want you to have this information and that is why you are not "getting it". The road to Enlightenment is filled with OBSTACLES... to overcome them, you have to inculcate the Divine... and this information is as old as humankind...
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« Reply #29 on: Apr 28th, 2003, 2:00pm »

Ok Irwyn, maybe I'm just uninformed on this subject. I can concede that it would be hard to prove that you visit or are visited by the psychic world. That is unless you could get some useful info like stock picks or where I lost my wallet. The bottom line is that you wish me to accept your experiences on face value or am I incorrect?
What I'm saying is this, why should I believe you and not believe my friend who thought he was Jesus Christ? An angel had told him that and he had actually beaten cancer several times in a miraculous way but I still didn't believe him.

Hi Voyager! Thanks for joining in on this! Let's see...I'll take your post point by point. What do I need to have an "open" mind? I'm perfectly willing to experience it. I accept that there is much more than what we perceive or imagine around us. Science actually has taken us to a point that suggests this idea. My wife has experienced OBE herself and she is almost devoid of imagination. LOL! I am ready to go.

If you are saying that an educated and curious mind is an obstacle, then I admit to having a problem. grin Seriously though, I don't even understand your reference to light and the density of a serious mind other in the most general sense. Give me some tips and I'll try them out.

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