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« Reply #1710 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 06:35am »

MR<>UPBOB,
I never went under hypnosis via some one else, I have been told by a professional that my work that I do to make a living is a form of self hypnosis, he called it walking meditation, I was unaware I was doing this, I just enjoyed being outside and watching everything that was taking place right before my eyes, you know, the birds the bees the flowers and the trees, down here in S. FLA we have allot to look at, the lizards are amazing fast, we also have the elusive, "JESUS LIZARD" this guy can run so fast he can run on the surface of water, "AMAZING".
This allows me to clear my mind of all worries and let my mind travel where or when ever I wish, untethered absolutely free, such amazing feeling.
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« Reply #1711 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 10:17am »


I would like to do some "brainstorming"

with you.
In 1973 I was giving a lecture in

Montreal at a Spiritualist church, and my

lecture subject was, "UFOs and Angel

Worlds". The audience was mostly

French-Canadians who understood very

little English.
I was speaking at a high level of

inspiration, and as I lectured I thought to

myself, why am I speaking on such a high

level when most of the audience cannot

understand English?
At this time I looked at some of the faces

in the audience and my attention was

drawn to two “men” who were seated in

the center row. When I looked at their

eyes, I knew that they were not of this

world. There was the calmness and

centered look of Angels in their eyes, and

I knew they were Angels or UFO Beings. I

realized that they were raising the

frequency of my lecture in order to raise

the audience to a higher level.
After the lecture while I was seated in the

rear of the church these two “men” came

over to me and they smiled at me. One of

these “men” said, "That was a fine

lecture, Mr. Greif, "and the other “man”

said, "You are the first "real" Human

being that I have met." At that time I felt

honored as if I had just been awarded the

cosmic Academy Award.
Were these two “men” the same “men”

who appeared as Angels to Lot in the

Bible?

In another occurrance I was doing a

brief lecture for some patients of

psychiatrist Dr. Barbara. In the 1960s I

met Dr. “Barbara” who was interested in

psychic phenomena and the paranormal.

Dr. “Barbara” was a psychiatrist in New

Jersey whose training included the

teachings of Dr. Wilhelm Reich. As I

delivered his lecture I was standing with

my back against a wall.
I was speaking about Angel worlds and

UFOs, and I was very tuned up and the

whole room was supercharged with

psychic electricity. When I was at a “high

point” in this lecture, suddenly the

psychiatrist and two of her patients got

very excited and they all pointed in my

direction.
I asked them, “What is the matter? What

do you see?”
And they all said the same

thing, “We see a seven-foot tall being

standing behind you on the wall dressed

in a metallic silver space suit. Then, we

saw him merge into you, walk out through

the left of you, go through the wall, and

then another identical being dressed the

same way took his place.”
Somehow, I had raised the frequency of

the room with my “lecture” high enough

to bring in an Angel or an ET from another

world that was on that higher frequency.
This demonstrated to me that we can

bring in beings from other worlds into our

room if we can raise the frequency of the

room to allow them to “tune in” to the

higher frequency.”

One particular incident interested me. It

concerned the Rendlesham Forest UFO

incident.
This is one of the best well documented

UFO sightings ever recorded.
This program produced a witness,[never
interviewed before], who stated that

several days prior to this UFO sighting

two men in black about 25 years old

interviewed all of the the persons living in

the area to see if they witnessed the red

light UFO sighting. How did they know

about this event before they actually

happened? Who were they? How did they

know the future? Was they ETs or Angels

who had the ability to know the future?

What do you think?

Irwyn


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« Reply #1712 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 11:36am »

Part2;

In 1972 I did a psychic analysis for Stephen Chopyak who was a research engineer for the Port of New York Authority. He had a degree in physics. In the course of my psychic session with Stephen I discussed magnetic fields and outer space, gravity waves, energy transfers and various other cosmological phenomena.
At the end of this session Stephen asked me if I had degrees or schooling in physics or astrophysics. I told him that I had no schooling or degrees in these subjects but that I was using his mind as my reference source and expanding upon his knowledge and understanding.
He was amazed and he told me that the information which I had related to him was beyond his knowledge and was on the level of a professor at the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton.
I must confess that I did not understand any of the content of this psychic discourse. It was beyond my knowledge or understanding. The implication of this was astounding. It meant that a psychic person could be in the presence of medical or scientific specialists and be able to use their minds as reference material to expand their knowledge and understanding in their field of expertise to solve difficult problems. What I was actually doing was “reading” their knowledge from their subconscious mind and “progressing”’ it to a higher level.

What do you think?

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« Reply #1713 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 11:58am »

Timetraveler, before I respond, may I ask if you dug through that link I gave you? It addresses something which you had issues with in that documentary you mentioned .......... as well as makes it clear there are people among us who are on the right track.

As for the media? I'm dumbfounded. I always am where their ignorance is concerned.

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« Reply #1714 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 12:31pm »

Okay. First thing I should say is that this isn't the first time somebody has asked me if some extraterrestrials might be the same as God's messengers of yore. I have always answered the same way. Not only is it possible, but in my opinion probable as well. I see the Book of Revelations not as a warning or hope, but a final exam of sorts for all mankind.

If an entity were to create a universe this vast? Many universes actually (yes, I believe in the multiverse), would they create only one Green Earth? Is that belief not only the height of arrogance, but selling the big guy a little (whole lot) short as well? With so many systems out their with probable civilizations in them, what are the chances that many are both successful and mature? In my mind this is what passing that final exam will get us. Membership in the galactic club.

As for the people you mentioned, I do not know. I wasn't there. Who do you think they were? By technical definition, angels would be extraterrestrials, so that is not my question. There is a certain difference in planes of existence if you know what I mean. The heaven mentioned in the Bible is not the heavens we look up and see at night. But you're already aware of this aren't you?

However, does this mean all extraterrestrials would be benevolent? Might I direct this discussion to that famous war on Earth and war in Heaven? What exactly was implied there if not that beings are diverse everywhere? Good will always triumph does not exactly say all things are inherently good, does it? But I firmly believe that good can be found in all things if you look with an open mind. This has to be. Everything has a purpose, as well as a reason for being in my way of thinking. But I also realize that things are very random as well. Nothing is pre planned per se, rather every yin has its yang. If one wishes to be on the proper side of things, then they must make wise choices from the heart, and treat all around them better than they would expect to be treated themselves.

Finally, the capabilities of the human mind. What need I say? Did Jesus not explain we had these in the famous scriptures regarding the faith of a mustard seed? If you were having telepathic experiences during a lecture, might they have stemmed from you personally? I think it is possible, even probable. It's strange how modern man finds an ability unbelievable which many in the ancient world took for granted, is it not? But telepathy barely scratches the surface of our mental abilities. Just be careful to heed the warnings in the Bible. We have to earn the right to operate in the greater good. Or prove worthy. However you want to put it. But the darker side of things is much easier to access. Waiting for one even. one slip could lead to trouble.

Does that answer your questions? It's a big multiverse out there, is it not? Not only is everything you ever imagined possible, it's probable as well. Our level of understanding is but meager at this stage.
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« Reply #1715 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 12:40pm »

on Mar 3rd, 2012, 2:31pm, timetraveler wrote:
EBS; I have been blocked from going under hypnosis. When I was in my 30s and “developing” my psychic abilities one of my friends suggested that I go under hypnosis to increase my psychic abilities. I attended a hypnotic session in Greenwich Village, which involved a woman hypnotist. She was attempting to hypnotize a group of people including myself. Just as I was
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about to go under hypnosis, I heard a little voice inside my head, which sounded like a midget inside an echo chamber. The voice said, "Get the hell out of here", and this made me laugh, which broke the hypnotic trance.
I felt at that time that I was being protected from having my mind and my memories accessed or controlled by other people. I believe that I have knowledge and memories of other worlds and other technologies and that this information should not be revealed. Perhaps that is why some people, similar to me, cannot be hypnotized. Irwyn


You've been "blocked"? I am curious to your exact meaning because nobody has ever been able to hypnotize me. No idea why, it simply does not work is all that I can say.
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« Reply #1716 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 5:24pm »

Irwyn, regarding your "brainstorming" post...all I can say is "magnificient!!" This certainly does show the power behind the movement of the spiritual force that is guiding the universe. Miracles they call them?! wink

would you send me your address, i would like to send you some of my artwork.
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« Reply #1717 on: Mar 9th, 2012, 5:31pm »

I've been hypnotized twice by same person, once by another. Only once was it a success, but it opened up an avenenue of my being able to open my own doors to my mind with spiritual guides.

i was so pleased with the first time ad it was the one that opened up the depths of my connection to all Existence! It was as a trance like state, not where I lacked control. I was in complete control....he was a very special kind of guy
however and i knew him.

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« Reply #1718 on: Mar 10th, 2012, 01:53am »

Can't say as why nobody was ever able to pull it off with me. One person told me that some people simply can't be hypnotized. Something about a mental drive or something. It was a long time ago, and I forget the exact explanation. Hypnosis was all the rage back then, and people were putting on shows everywhere it seemed.

Since then I've seen far more serious hypnosis at work. No, they couldn't put me under either. But this is where I learned about the subliminal input issue hypnotists can pull. Good ones anyway.
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« Reply #1719 on: Mar 10th, 2012, 08:53am »

Lori,Icepick;

My address is; Irwyn Greif,Room

107,1751 Hillmor Drive,Port Saint Lucie,Fl.
34952. [772-335-0990]
1.The "men" seen in the Bible and in my

experiences were projections of humans

appearing as messangers because Angels

are too high voltage to appear in their

original forms without electrocuting the

physical world.
2.When you are hypnotized you have

allowed someone to enter into your mind

and to "control" you. In my case my "Guardian Angel "
blocked the hypnosis.

3. I had a dream or vision in which I saw

a laboratory type room and I saw against

the wall a device that looked like a

console TV that gave off a purple color

light in its screen. I knew that if I looked

at this purple color light my mind and my

soul would be sucked into that device.
I did not feel that this was only a dream.

I believe that this was a device that

actually existed in a past life when I was

in an outer space world and at war with

another outer space world.
I recall another similar incident which

happened in real-life.

In the 1970s I was

involved in a meeting with scientists and

psychics with the "mind control Institute"

in New York City. The purpose of this

project was to research and document

psychic and electromagnetic waves that

emanated from psychics when they were

in the power. As I was present in this

room we were awaiting the arrival of a

very famous psychic [Ingo Swann] who was asked to be

part of this group. I had never met this

famous psychic and I was looking forward

to his arrival. Then he made his

appearance and as soon as I saw him I

was overcome with a strong desire to

destroy him as if he was an enemy

spaceship and as if I was directing all of

my laser weapons at him. I sensed at that

time that he was from Sirius and that I

was from Orion and that we were deadly

enemies. At this point a woman psychic

sitting next to me said to me," stop doing

what you're doing, your face is turning

purple".

Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung postulated

that every human being has the memory

of all of its past experiences and even its

past lives. He called this the “collective

consciousness.”
I believe that the “collective

consciousness” stores memories of past

lives, traumas and unpleasant events and

these memories many times surface from

the subconscious as inexplicable fears

and revulsions. It is my opinion that

psychiatry should consider “past lives

memories” as part of psychotherapy.

Sometimes you meet or interact with

persons you “remember” from past lives.


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« Reply #1720 on: Mar 10th, 2012, 09:14am »

So you are making the distinction between Angels and flesh and blood extraterrestrials. This is good. I had been wondering. So many people out there insist on confusing these two realms these days.

That has always been my viewpoint on hypnosis. One allows themselves to be hypnotized most often so somebody else can guide them through something. Which implies control. No matter how benign, methodology is always similar.
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« Reply #1721 on: Mar 10th, 2012, 11:13am »

Icepick;

Who ever said that ETs are flesh and blood? When I came here from Orion 150,000 years ago together with 39 other scientists we were energy beings who "transformed" ourselves into human-like beings in order to blend with the environment.The American Indians haye a name for beings who can change their bodies they call them"shape shifters".


Let us level the playing field.
When the school children were in danger from a mad bomber and his girl friend, who saved the schoolchildren?
Answer: Angels who came as "projections" of teachers.
Who came to Biblical figures as "messengers"?
Answer:Angels and ETs assume human- like forms to meet the
expectations of the contactee.
Eg; If you are a devout Catholic the Angel will come to you as "Virgin Mary" or a popular Catholic figure, if you are a devout Jew the same Angel will appear to you as "Moses" or Eljah or a popular jewish dignitary.

Raise your level of Understanding and learn to think"out of the box". Do not allow your own limitations limit your comprehension of existance!

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« Reply #1722 on: Mar 10th, 2012, 2:44pm »

I went and visited Irwyn for a while today, we told jokes and talked about Jerry Lewis, we also talked about ancient myth, and cave drawings, I am re-posting this link below for him, he missed it.
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« Reply #1723 on: Mar 10th, 2012, 3:59pm »

I'm sorry timetraveler, but if life exists elsewhere in this universe, it's a given that some are flesh and blood. Please take note that I did not place any blanket label on extraterrestrials. Believing that simply because we have yet to make it there means that no biological being has is but the height of arrogance.

What do you think multiverse refers to? There are multiple universes, both out there and right here. Do not assume any exclusive rights apply to this realm, because they do not. Evil exists in this realm as well, and that alone throws everything out of balance.
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« Reply #1724 on: Mar 11th, 2012, 08:07am »

Moksha:

Thank you for the link. I believe that Mythology was the first
recorded history and should be integrated with recorded history.The thunderbolt weapons of the "gods" are the EM
and Taser and pulse generator weapons of today.

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