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« Reply #195 on: Feb 5th, 2004, 1:40pm »

Part 7.
When I recovered, I was very surprised and yet very awed about what
had
> happened to me. At first all the memory of the trip that I have now was
not
> there. I kept slipping out of this world and kept asking, "Am I alive?"
> > > This world seemed more like a dream than that one. Within three days,
I
> was feeling normal again,clearer, yet different than I had ever felt in my
> life.
> > > My memory of the journey came back later. I could see nothing wrong
> with any human being I had ever seen. Before that I was really
> judgmental. I thought a lot of people were really screwed up, in fact I
> thought that
> > > everybody was screwed up but me. But I got clear on all that.
> > >
> > > About three months later a friend said I should get tested, so I went
> and got the scans and so forth. I really felt good, so I was afraid of
> getting bad news. I remember the doctor at the clinic looking at the
before
> and after scans, saying, "Well, there is nothing here now." I said,
> "Really, it must be a miracle?"
> > > He said "No, these things happen, they are called spontaneous
> remission." He acted very unimpressed. But here was a miracle, and I was
> impressed, even if no one else was.
> > >
> > > LESSONS HE LEARNED
> > >
> > > The mystery of life has very little to do with intelligence. The
> universe is not an intellectual process at all. The intellect is
helpful;
> it is brilliant, but right now that is all we process with, instead of our
> hearts and the wiser part of ourselves.
> > >
> > > The center of the earth is this great transmuter of energy, just as
you
> see in pictures of our earth's magnetic field. That's our cycle, pulling
> reincarnated souls back in and through it again. A sign that you are
> reaching human level is that you are beginning to evolve an individual
> consciousness.
> > >
> > > The animals have a group soul, and they reincarnate in group souls. A
> deer is pretty much going to be a deer forever. But just being born a
> human, whether deformed or genius, shows that you are on the path to
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developing an individual consciousness. That is in itself part of the
> > group consciousness called humanity.
> > >
> > > I saw that races are personality clusters. Nations like France,
Germany
> and China each have their own personality. Cities have personalities,
their
> local group souls that attract certain people. Families have group souls.
> > > Individual identity is evolving like branches of a fractal; the group
> soul explores in our individuality. The different questions that each of
us
> has are very, very important. This is how Godhead is exploring God's
Self -
> through you. So ask your questions, do your searching. You will find
your
> Self and you will find God in that Self, because it is only the Self.
> > >
> > > More than that, I began to see that each one of us humans are soul
> mates. We are part of the same soul fractaling out in many creative
> directions, but still the same. Now I look at every human being that I
ever
> see, and I see a soul mate, my soul mate, the one I have always been
looking
> for. Beyond that, the greatest soul mate that you will ever have is
> yourself.
> > >
> > > We are each both male and female. We experience this in the womb and
we
> experience this in reincarnation states. If you are looking for that
> ultimate soul mate outside of yourself, you may never find it; it is not
> there. Just as God is not "there". God is here. Don't look "out
> > > there" for God. Look here for God. Look through your Self. Start
> having the greatest love affair you ever had ... with your Self. You will
> love everything out of that.
> > >
> > > I had a descent into what you might call Hell, and it was very
> surprising.
> > > I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into Hell was a descent into
> each person's customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of
> not-knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the
millions
> of souls
> > > around me had a little star of light always available. But no one
> seemed to pay attention to it. They were so consumed with their own
grief,
> trauma and misery. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling
> out to that
> > > Light, like a child calling to a parent for help.
> > >
> > >
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Part 9.
Then the Light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me an
> insulated me from all that fear and pain. That is what Hell really is.
> > So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The
> doors of Hell are open now. We are going to link up, hold hands, and walk
> out of Hell together. The Light came to me and turned into a huge golden
> angel.
> > I said, "Are you the angel of death?" It expressed to me that it was my
> oversoul, my Higher Self matrix, a super-ancient part of ourselves. Then
I
> was taken to the Light.
> > >
> > > Soon our science will quantify spirit. Isn't that going to be
> wonderful? We are coming up with devices now that are sensitive to subtle
> energy or spirit energy. Physicists use these atomic colliders to smash
> atoms to
> > see what they are made of. They have got it down to quarks and charm,
and
> all that. Well, one day they are going to come down to the little thing
> that holds it all together, and they are going to have to call that ...
God.
> > >
> > > With atomic colliders they are not only seeing what is in here, but
they
> are creating particles. Thank God most of them are short-lived
milliseconds
> and nanoseconds. We are just beginning to understand that we are creating
> > too, as we go along. As I saw forever, I came to a realm in which there
> is a point where we pass all knowledge and begin creating the next
fractal,
> the next level. We have that power to create as we explore. And that is
> God expanding itself through us.
> > >
> > > Since my return I have experienced the Light spontaneously, and I have
> learned how to get to that space almost any time in my meditation. Each
one
> > > of you can do this. You do not have to die to do this. It is within
> your equipment; you are wired for it already.The body is the most
> magnificent Light being there is. The body is a universe of incredible
> Light. Spirit
> > > is not pushing us to dissolve this body. That is not what is
happening.
> Stop trying to become God; God is becoming you. Here.
> > >
> > > The mind is like a child running around the universe, demanding this
and
> thinking it created the world. But I ask the mind: "What did your mother
> have to do with this?" That is the next level of spiritual awareness. Oh!
> > my mother! All of a sudden you give up the ego, because you are not the
> only soul in the universe.
> > >
> > > One of my questions to the Light was "What is Heaven?" I was given a
> tour of all the heavens that have been created: the Nirvanas, the Happy
> Hunting
> Grounds, all of them. I went through them. These are thought form
> creations that we have created. We don't really go to heaven; we are
> reprocessed.
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« Reply #198 on: Feb 5th, 2004, 2:19pm »

I agree with most of this writing and I have experienced some of this near death experience revelations. However, I do not limit myself to identify the Intelligence that created the Universe by any name, or title or sexual representation. I also disagree with the theory of a "second coming" as I do not give credence to any individual portraying the "Creator Principle". Thank you for your kind attention.

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« Reply #199 on: Feb 5th, 2004, 4:38pm »

I have had quite similar experiences Irwyn.

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We are literally God exploring God's Self in an infinite Dance of Life.


I will agree with that statement, and I agree with most of all that you have quoted.


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I also disagree with the theory of a "second coming" as I do not give credence to any individual portraying the "Creator Principle


I disagree with the above statement though....(to put it simply without going into too much detail as this is a very deep subject) we were given free will, and although God is in all (spirit), the body has a personality of its own......therefore it is important that God sends down teachers...to guide man from his dreaming state. Everyone is at different levels of awareness....
If God did not send down teachers (manifestations of God on earth (reflecting Godly qualities) then this world would be a sorry place. Because we have free will, we can easily live like animals or rise above it......by sending us teachers, God offers us the chance to rise above our basest natures.

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« Reply #200 on: Feb 5th, 2004, 7:36pm »

As you said Layla, this is a very deep subject for some, as for me personally I cannot beleive that there is one almighty spirit that looks down on the earth and its subjects and controls what people think or even control ones destiny. All this is done by the individual person. Life is simpley win or lose, you follow the path you follow, nobody can influence that. There has been to many bad things happen over just the last 20 years for me to put my faith in one entity that I have never seen. We make our own destinys. As for the church and I mean any church or faith, where do they get off trying to dictate to people what they should or should not beleive in. The whole religeous thing is just a money spinner. Look at the wealth the pope has in Rome. Its a city within a city and they all walk around in brilliant finarys while 1/2 of the world starves and begs off other countries. Is this how the one almighty planned the world to become. The church takes money and only gives back a meagre percentage. Where does the rest go. These people are a law above the law and thats not right. How can anyone beleive in a god these days when so many terrible things happen. Has the Devil won his place on earth. Why does this god never answer peoples prayers. As you may of guessed Its not that I don`t beleive, its just that there is no conclusive eveidence that god does or ever did exist. Again they are just stories that have been passed down from century t century and each passing adds just a little more each timeits told.
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« Reply #201 on: Feb 5th, 2004, 10:05pm »

Timetraveler that is a fascinating story!
Layla, how did you formulate your beliefs?
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« Reply #202 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 04:09am »

Hi Rob....

Well Rob I am going to have to agree with you on churches (no offense meant to anyone reading this board grin) We are all on our own spiritual journies. Man has taken the teachings and used them for their own gain, control, and in some cases twisted them to their own set of beliefs.

I have heard many stories over my lifetime of prayers being answered.....but mine hasn't, still waiting to win Lotto!! grin

Like I said this is a deep subject.

We have all suffered in various ways Rob..(Layla hugs Rob) ....when I think how my father suffered at the hands of the Japanese during the war.....I weep.....nothing that has ever happened to me could ever compare to his suffering....and to top it off he died of Cancer.

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I arrived at that understanding from experiences...that I won't go into, but similar to Irwyns......we are different personalities.....arriving at different destinations....from our experiences.

I believe for all we know, we are only touching the tip of the iceberg....

I have no desire to offend anyone with my beliefs.... lipsrsealed


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« Reply #203 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 2:47pm »

thanks irwyn that was most enlightening .i have always believed that love is god and therefore god is love , didn't his son say something like " i give you all a new commandment , love one another " every poet or songwriter talk about love in their works. i wonder how many of them understand what it really is? eileen garret the great phsycic who died in 1970 believed that she could read emotions by the colours of peoples aura's, as a young girl she was upset when she found out that most people cannot see aura's let alone interpret them. she really had a gift and helped me modify my views about what was real or not. since coming to this website i have been able to grasp more than i ever imagined on many subjects . some ideas confirming beliefs i already had and others opening my mind to new possibilities. thank you all . i'll try to contribute where i can, but at the moment you are all blowing me away.
layla i don't believe you offend anybody.from what i have read i can only see that you have an abundance of love in your heart may all our gods bless you.
rob i couldn't agree with you more . organized religion has done more to hurt the human spirit than to help it . it is only a tool of control devised to keep people from free thought by using the fear of god to stop them reaching their full potential. it's a shame that there may not be any fire in hell because some of the clergy and polititians i know could use a dose of it.

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I'm so happy to be in the company of such beautiful people. Each person has their own reality and their own belief system. Believe in yourself.

When you have had the most personal experience of a cosmic consciousness you are privileged to be raised to a higher level of understanding. You cannot attain this understanding unless you personally have had a cosmic consciousness or similar experience.
When I had my cosmic consciousness experience I felt I was going "home" to my Creator. At no time during this supreme experience did I see or feel any person or human like figure. What I experienced was a feeling of total love of a quality and purity such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of love transcended my mind, my emotions and my belief system. For a few seconds in time I was one with the Universe. I was able to know and understand everything. I was connected to the total of our existence. When I returned into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much greater and more real than the physical reality of my life. This was a greater reality and it gave me hope and belief that existence and the Universe was beautiful and was intelligently controlled and orchestrated by higher intelligences beyond my knowledge and understanding, but that I was an important and loved part of this matrix.

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Layla, thanks for the hug wink. Diamond, you say god is love and love is god and yet god lets so many suffer. Why. Laylas father for example fought for peoples freedom and as a reward gained Cancer. My father died at xmas having given his all for his country and his death was slow and agonizing, that was his reward and we could go on and on. Please don`t think I am singleing you out I mean no offence. 90% of all deaths throughout the ages can be in one way or another attributed to religeon. So why would god have us fight amongst ourselves to decide who worships who! Layla, I beleive that miracles are simply that. There is no divine intervention. These have been happening since year dot, but there only divine because we are told so in books. Diamond you are of course correct about the politicians. It could be said that its not god who makes us suffer but the politicans who hold the purse strings. Irwyn, I thank you for continuing to try to enlighten me and one day perhaps I`ll get there. The 3 of you are truley wonderful people with an insaitiable thirst for life wink
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thanks irwyn, likewise to you.
no offence taken rob please accept my condolences on your loss. i ask myself the same question many times , and although i cannot answer it fully i'll try and outline my truth for what it's worth. instead of asking why does god let this happen ? i say why do we humans do to each other what we do in the name of god (love)? how often do we hear of crimes of passion in which the murderer cry's out in his/ her pathetic defence that he /she did it because they loved them so much they couldn't bear to be without them? it seems to me that suffering is an integral part of being human, and although we would all prefer to see that it does not happen , we none the less learn (well those with any compassion) a lot from what we ourselves , or others experience. i also watched a close friend die of renal failure a few years back and the last thing he said before passing was "no more pain" . i will never forget the calmness that came over him in his last minutes. this i believe was god lifting his burden. now i'm not a religeous zealot , in fact if i were to walk into a church it would probably fall down. but i do believe in the teachings of j.c. and have come to that without being indocrinated into any organised faith. i believe that he was a man of flesh and bone just like any other man , yet he had reached total enlightenment. he saw suffering and tried to do something about it . he died trying to lift the burden of suffering from man .if only they would live by his code. love one another. simple . if every body in the world could find it in their hearts to love his/her fellow man/woman then suffering for all would end . by now we should have found cures for all known dieases , wars should have ceased completely, greed should not exist for there should have been plenty for all.etc.etc. i believe that god is still waiting for the penny to drop and until it does it will be the same ol' same ol'. we mustn't complicate what is truly a simple message , but corruption and greed ....... i don't need to elaborate. maybe our little friends learnt this many eons ago and are puzzled as to why we havn't. i wish i had all the answers, but every day i see random acts of kindness that restore my faith in humankind and one day in the not too distant future maybe the penny will drop on all. and after all when we die it is only our physical self that perishes. imagine the world if when everybody recieved an act of kindness they were to pass it on threefold. just as an experiment , next time you do something nice for somebody just say "pass it on" and explain why . it could become a habit.

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not sure whether this belongs here , but a report on qld channel 7 this evening described a young girl in russia ( i think) who is baffling scientists with her claims that she has xray vision and can see what is ailing people on the inside. hmmm. will try to get more info.

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I received this in an e-mail from my friend Ruth. I pass this along for your information: what do you think? Irwyn

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The world's foremost remote viewing teacher, Edward A. Dames, Major, U.S. Army (Ret.), served as the training and operations officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency's psychic intelligence collection unit, and currently serves as executive director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency, a private consulting group. Ed is a technical consultant for the feature film "Suspect Zero," (a Tom Cruise-Paula Wagner production), and plays the role of an FBI remote viewing instructor in the movie, as well.

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thanks irwyn. i visited the sights . seems to me that the good major is cashing in on his knowledge . should be an interesting film when it comes out. there is certainly plenty to talk about relating to the subject. my mind ,as always' is open. having said that i tend to think that we are using the dream state , so to speak , when we experience out of body or clairvoyent type episodes. with the amount of brainpower that we humans use, it's not hard to imagine that the rest of that wonderful organ would be engaged in unconcious travel ,esp, etc. the biggest problem is knowing how to turn these functions on and off at will. some fortunate people may be able to do just this in varying degrees. someone like the russian girl i mentioned would seem to have an uncanny control over their psychic powers .and yet i still believe that even they would only be using a mere fraction of the brainpower available to us all.
even my, wife a born sceptic , believes in this as she dabbled in astral travel about 25 years ago until being put off by a particularly nasty experience (she nearly didn't get back) i wouldn't be alone in saying that i have had dreams ( premonitions) of things to come and they have happened. it sends a chill down my spine every time i see footage of the russian version of the concorde crash at the paris air show . i dreamt that event many years before it happened.
the u.s. and russian military would not have delved into these phenomena as deep as they did if they thought there was no potential. i have a feeling that the next quantum leap in human evolution will be directed toward the psychic state , whether that will encompass telepathy , clairvoyance, astral travel et al we will have to wait and see . let's hope by then we have also developed enough common sense to use it for peaceful purposes. what's your opinion?

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