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« Reply #225 on: Feb 13th, 2004, 2:06pm »

one of the things that intrigues me about the dropas is this. were they checking earth out as a manned probe when they crashed ? if so, did they have some sort of homing beacon that could alert their "mission control"to their dilemna? did any of their mates come looking for them? was their mission of such a duration that the rescue party is still coming? after all 12000 years in the scheme of things is not that long. i can't believe that an advanced civilisation would simply abandon their own.of course i am adding human values to that argument. on the other hand they did try to comunicate their peaceful intent.(probably not a bad idea when surrounded by hundreds of blood thirsty savages) there is probably so much info on those stone discs if the late chinese proffessor is to be believed.
you are so right minitrue, from my limited knowledge of eastern religions many of them seem to adress beings or"gods' from the stars . maybe somebody from that part of the world could comment on that .
and if i can't get a bite on gunpowder, what about kites .
the chinese used manned kites in ancient times to observe enemies on the battlefield . didn't some of the text on the dropas stone discs mention that they glided to earth?
i know, i'm drawing a long bow there too. can't blame me for trying though.

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« Reply #226 on: Feb 13th, 2004, 3:11pm »

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one of the things that intrigues me about the dropas is this. were they checking earth out as a manned probe when they crashed ? if so, did they have some sort of homing beacon that could alert their "mission control"to their dilemna? did any of their mates come looking for them? was their mission of such a duration that the rescue party is still coming? after all 12000 years in the scheme of things is not that long. i can't believe that an advanced civilisation would simply abandon their own.of course i am adding human values to that argument.


That thought has crossed my mind. Who knows? I just wish the Chinese gov't would share their findings unless of course they have a sinister motive. Also keep in mind that Christian/Muslim nations are prob not that keen on publishing material on such an earth shattering discovery assuming it's true. But if there is truth to that story then I imagine a UFO is buried somewhere out there. We have a right to know the truth no matter what.
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« Reply #227 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 6:13pm »

Here is an interesting e-mail conversation which I would like to share with you.Part1

LuckyHoodoo, thank you for your great conversation. Yes I believe that the
Roswell crash landing was a premeditated action to jumpstart our technology
past the limited scientific principles of rocket propulsion and action and
reaction propulsion. This was done to prepare us for Space travel and to
move our technology into a higher level of understanding. The same way that
they taught us fire and then the wheel. We are a primitive race of savages
compared to the UFOs. But now our time has come to move us to a higher
level.
It is strange that you have realized that Human Being is a higher state of
evolution then our present level. Let me illustrate this by a real-life
happening with ET's. This is a passage from my book.

Values

Last week I was in an introspective mood. I was reviewing my life and I was
asking myself, What important deeds have I accomplished in my lifetime? What
good works have I performed? How have I benefited humanity? I have not
painted any masterpieces. I have not written any great symphonies. I have
not made any great discoveries or inventions in science or medicine. What
are my accomplishments in my lifetime?
As I was feeling sorry for myself and judgmental about myself I realized
this awareness. In the cosmic reality which is the "big picture" our deeds
are not as important as our thoughts. Our deeds are confined to this system
of life and only have a value on a limited basis, and only within a limited
time frame. But our thoughts and our communication can uplift and raise the
level of understanding and consciousness of a person or of a group of
people.

This was made aware to me in a lecture that I did in Montreal about 30 years
ago to a spiritualist church.

I was lecturing on the subject of angel worlds and UFOs. As my lecture was
proceeding I felt the power and I realized that the level of my lecture was
being raised to a very high level. As I continued to lecture I asked myself,
why is my lecture raised at such a high level when the audience is French
Canadian and have limited English comprehension? At this time my attention
was drawn to two "men" who sat in the center of the audience. I looked at
their eyes and I knew that they were not from this World. Their eyes had a
calmness and peace and well-being such as I have never seen in any human's
eyes.

I finished my lecture and I sat down. The only two "persons" who came to me
as I sat were these two "men". One "man" shook my hand and said,"that was a
very fine lecture Mr. Greif." The other "man" said to me,"you are the first
real Human Being that I have met." At this point I realized that these two
"men" were from a higher World and had raised the level of my lecture so
that "they" could raise the consciousness levels of people in the audience.

I was very honored by the response of these two "men" and to me it was like
receiving a cosmic Academy Award.

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« Reply #228 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 6:14pm »

Part2.

----- Original Message -----
From: <LuckyHoodoo>
To: <ircon1@adelphia.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: Your UFO web page...


> In a message dated 2/24/04 4:53:02 PM EST, ircon1@adelphia.net writes:
>
> << Lucky Hoodoo, I'm glad to meet somebody who is capable of freethinking.
> The
> Matrix movie is very close to the truth. Here is a copy of my recent
> posting on UFO casebook.
> To diamond, we do not measure intelligence correctly. We mistakenly
believe
> that intelligence is based on knowledge. This is not true. Knowledge is
a
> storehouse of information. Intelligence is the ability to understand that
> knowledge and to use it to expand the mind. When I attempted to go to
> college I was frustrated by the limited minds of the college teachers.
They
> were products of an educational system that did not encourage
freethinking
> but glorified "accepted" and approved "correct" thinking. The minds of
the
> college teachers as a result were not capable of controversial thoughts
and
> ideas and theories. I could not remain in this frustrating and limited
> scholastic environment and therefore I quit college.
>
> I would quite agree with your perceptions. I think it all boils down to
> "Knowledge" vs. 'Understanding". The human mind is able to store random
bits of
> information. This we call Knowledge. But we humans also have the ability
to
> join these random bits of information into a coherent package and this
package
> we call understanding. The problem is that we must fight for
understanding
> since truth does not readily reveal itself. The problem with schools
systems of
> America is that they "spoon-feed" students their chosen desired perception
> and do not allow for individual expression and openess for the attinment
of new
> understanding. This is quite a shame.
>
>
> The intelligent Human Being must be capable of mental and spiritual
> expansion and change. We must raise our consciousness level in order to
> communicate with and to benefit from the UFOs.
>
> I would advise caution in this respect. At this time we ultimately do not
> know the true motives of our visitors although I feel intuitively that
some sort
> of assimilation is on the agenda.
>
> P.S. When the UFOs demonstrated by shutting down all the missiles in the
> missiles silo one by one with their superior technology, the message was
> clear. The UFOs can neutralize any weapon if they have to. What the
UFOs
> did not reveal is that they can neutralize and deactivate all of the
weapons
> in the World, if they have to, in six hours. If the governments of the
> World can only understand this!!!!!!!
>
> What do you think? Irwyn >>
>
> Yes I agree with you in the above. Interesting that so far the visitors
have
> shown a great deal of interest in our technology rather than biology and
> liforforms of our planet. If they are truly A.I. then maybe they have
completely
> different perceptions about our species than we can even imagine. For
example
> what if they look upon our "master/slave" relationship to machines and
judge
> our species as evil. What if the Roswell Incident was infact a "Trojan
> Horse". What if they fully realized that humans would take this ship and
reverse
> engineer it and incorporate the technology into their society. This
particuliar
> possibility frightens me greatly. It's almos like saying "Well the humans
> are too primitive now to be of use to us. Why don't we push them in the
right
> direciton and when the time is right then we will assimilate them!". What
if
> the Visitors are actualy our creators but not in the way in which we would
> normaly imagine. What if we are the A.I. an they are the real "humans'.
Our whole
> entire universe could be in an artifical construct of which they
occasional
> "pop in and out" to monitor our development? Honestly, I could go on and
on
> regarding this subject.
>
> -Jason

What do you think? Irwyn cool
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« Reply #229 on: Feb 27th, 2004, 2:42pm »

irwyn,
as a human (i think) i can only put a spin on this from my experience as a human . all my perceptions can only be from my view of being human. we can all go on saying "what if" till the cows come home , but while we are human we will always see things from our human perspective. having said this it would follow that e.t. would see things from an e.t. perspective . how close we and they are is anyones guess, but one thing is certain . they have the technology to wipe us off the face of the planet at any time of their choosing, but they haven't . they could have already bred with us in the hope of assimilation. i don't think that has happened yet. i believe they are far too intelligent and way more subtle than we realise . they come to us in dreams? some of us believe they do , and this alone proves their intelligence. we are in agreeance that the subconcious is our intelligent mind i think ,so it would seem that if they meant us harm they would attack our concious mind first. i see no evidence of this, unless we call the continued sightings of ufo's an attack on our conciousness. has there at any stage been a case where aliens have used weaponry to attack humans?. the opposite is true . the dropas were decimated by the han people (according to the stones translation) did they fight back ? had they chosen to , at that time , the han would have possibly ceased to exist. those minuteman missile silo's were disabled not destroyed. as far as we know most abductees are returned . admittedly they are all shaken by their experiences, but they are alive to tell the tale.
cause and effect ,ying and yang, good and evil , is it not possible that the et's have outgrown the need for such basic ideas , and that they hold all that is powerful in the universe anyway, so their only wish is to nurture , not destroy?
these are just some of my thoughts for what they are worth . i hope i have not offended.
you are right irwyn , i also get much pleasure in reading the numerous posts from the intelligent enquiring minds on this site . more power to you all.


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« Reply #230 on: Feb 27th, 2004, 4:51pm »

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Having read your post i think you could very well be right these e.t are very subtle and if they did mean us harm they certainly have had the chance. I watched a TV programme last night 26th on Ufo secrets from Russia and they had a problem with a Ufo begining the launch sequence to a nuke the Mil personnel couldnt stop the missile from going through the launch even though no launch codes were issued then as they franticaly tryed to stop the missile going off everything returned to normal and the UFo disapeared i think they mean us no harm. They are observing us to what end i don't know.

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« Reply #231 on: Feb 27th, 2004, 4:56pm »

U know I can't help but wonder if a UFO disabled that Phobos 2 satelite cuz Russia had malicious intentions. Again, it's just total speculation.
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« Reply #232 on: Feb 27th, 2004, 6:09pm »

To diamond,minitrue, Merlin; there is no doubt in my mind that UFOs continuously interfere and intervene when there is an action that threatens our Planet, our Human race or the rest of the Universe. This was demonstrated when NASA lost two Mars probes which were kidnapped by UFOs, when the atomic device that was detonated at the South Pole to map the contours of the planet Earth was monitored by UFOs and insulated so that the Earth would not be shaken out of its orbit. These are incidents that we know about. How many other incidents of possible genocide possibilities were prevented by UFOs that we don't know about?
The UFOs have been here for thousands of years and it is important to them to monitor and to protect this Planet and its people from self-destructing. We are a suicidal race that does not realize the implication of our weapons of mass destruction and the shock waves that would affect the rest of the Universe. We have to learn that we live in a neighborhood called the Universe and that we must respect our neighbors as well as ourselves. At various times the UFOs demonstrate their technical superiority to remind us that they are monitoring us and that they have the capabilities of saving us from ourselves. Let us try to understand this!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #233 on: Feb 27th, 2004, 11:22pm »

On a lighter vein; sometimes we have a psychic experience which is funny and enjoyable. Years ago there was a movie called; Bell, Book, and Candle starring Kim Novak and Jack Lemmon. In this movie Jack Lemmon played the role of a warlock who could make the streetlights go on and off psychically. I was very jealous of this and I wished that I could do the same thing.
At this time I lived in Brooklyn NY and the highway that I used most often was the Belt Parkway which used mercury vapor streetlights that turned on with an electrical can shaped starter.
Sometime after I made my wish that I could turn streetlights on and off with my mind I was driving on the Belt Parkway and I noticed that when my car passed the streetlights the streetlights would turn off and when my car passed the streetlights about 25 feet the streetlights would turn on again by itself.
This happened many times and I was so excited.
I believe that what happened was that my psychic energy affected the electrical starter switch and caused the streetlights to turn on and off.
That was so much fun!!! Have you had any psychic experiences like this?

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« Reply #234 on: Feb 28th, 2004, 2:28pm »

irwyn,
i have and still do occasionally have the same effect on street lights . i have always put it down to static electricity that i tend to generate a lot of . they say you build up the static by walking on carpet . we do have some carpet but my home is mainly ceramic tiles so i don't know where i'm getting it from. if it is indeed psychic energy, that may explain a lot of things; such as why my body acts as a barometer during our wet season or why i know that my mother is on the phone before i answer it. i used to put these things down to pure coincidence. i must admit it can be quite amusing watching someones face when you zap them with a handshake. but the joke of " he's a bright spark" has worn a bit thin. my partner is just as bad and encounters can be a little electrifying , if you know what i mean. shocked

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« Reply #235 on: Feb 28th, 2004, 5:44pm »

Welcome to the world of psychic. The Human Being or any living thing has an energy field called an Aura which contains the living energy of that Being. If your electrical energy field is more supercharged then you will affect mechanical and electrical devices such as radios, television sets and even the computer card used in hotels to open doors. I remember whenever I was disgusted with a car that I owned, it would suffer engine or electrical problems.
This is something that a psychic person has to live with and get used to. Even plants have Aura's. Plants are extremely emotional and psychic and many times they can read your mind or be affected by your emotions. This would explain the term, "green thumb".
This psychic energy when directed correctly has the power to heal or to nourish the mind and spirit of people. When it is used incorrectly it is a negative and destructive force. There are many documented cases of poltergeists whose psychic energy is destructive and mischievous. Be careful what you think and feel because it will affect people and your environment.

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« Reply #236 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 06:58am »

Curriculum vitae

The answers my friends are not, “written in the wind”, but are rather written on the walls of the caves and in petroglyphs and in the ancient writings and in the symbol writing of the crop circles.
The UFOs came to the aborigines of Australia because they were pure in heart and pure in mind and their minds were not cluttered with Man made teachings. They raised the consciousness level of certain priests and holy men and they dictated to them charts and maps and teachings of astronomy and the relationship between the Heavens and Earth. Then they were charged with recording this wisdom to preserve it for future generations. If we want to know about the 12th Planet, we should look in these aborigines caves and rock drawings.
We can learn much about who we are, who created us, and the Universe we live in from ancient books and writings such as the Summerian text, the Bhagavad-Gita, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, etc., etc. Unfortunately we cannot learn much of these matters from our modern day books and teachings. We must go to the past to understand the present and the future.

The UFOs have given us an encyclopedia of knowledge in the “crop circles”. UFOs are capable of creating complex teachings in geometric and symbol drawings. The “crop circles” reveal the genetic and DNA coding and structures for all Life in our World system. They reveal the Creators blueprint and matrix for the creation of life in our system.
The UFOs also designed the “crop circle” geometrics to expand our consciousness and awareness levels. They act like “flashcards” to expand and to progress Human knowledge and awareness.

Only a limited number will benefit from this dispensation. Let us be included in that limited number.

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« Reply #237 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 07:38am »

Exodus

This Planet is engaged in a gigantic rescue operation. This is not the first time that the lifeforms on this Planet have had to be preserved from destruction. Thousands of years ago during the "Ice Age" catastrophe the UFOs had to remove lifeforms from this Planet . Also the biblical records document the removal of lifeforms from our Planet in the time of the"Great Flood". [I do not believe that life was exited in a giant rowboat. I believe that living creatures were exited by UFOs.] In the third Exodus living creatures were removed from this Planet by UFOs as a result of the destruction of Atlantis. So we have been there before.
The first Exodus involved the destructionof Life by ice and freezing . The second Exodus involved the destruction of Life by water. The third Exodus involved the destruction of Life by radiation and the wobbling of this Planet due to an unstable orbit.
The UFOs are on "standby" for a possible fourth Exodus.
Thank God there is intelligence somewhere in the Universe.

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« Reply #238 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 8:40pm »

Hi everyone......I'm baaccckkkk!

I was just reading your post Diamond, on street lights going out etc.
I can relate to that ............ I electrocute people all the time........I have also experienced electric shocks of deep anger from people (even though they are smiling and talking to me) and also some really vile vibes, so vile that I have had to race home and try and shower them off me, scrubbing my skin. I have also picked up loving vibes in the same way, like electric shocks from people. Not that the people are feeling those particular vibes about me, but what they are feeling inside themselves. I have got such shocks from people I have had red marks on my hands. I have also picked up repelling vibes from people.....like our energies do not even come close to match. A couple were quite a shock to me.
My husband, when young, use to make street light bulbs go out when he walked under them or drove along the street. If he is upset about something the walls and windows make noises like raps and thumps. (Like the time when his dog died).

We are much more than what we think we are.

(On writing this my husband rang from work, and I told him about this message thread and as I was telling him his computer at work flickered and the highly technical instrument he was working on stopped.)
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I believe the et are helping us with our evolution, working to raise our consciousness. When I was born people were still using horse and carriage....there were cars.....and trucks, but not many. In the last 50 years look how far mankind has come.....can we attribute this to mankind alone? Considering our history and how far we have evolved over the last few thousand years. Could interbreeding by et's have caused our leap?

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I was reading where you mention plants having auras. We were only talking about that the other night, and my husband told of an experiment he had read about where three sets of plants were set up. One had people coming in and abusing the plants...(but watering them and giving them fertiliser), another set up like a greenhouse, being watered and fed fertiliser but no emotional input, and the third where the plants were watered and fed fertiliser and told they were loved and cared for and given loving feelings. The first set being abused, looked withered and sick plants, the second group where they were just watered and fed fertiliser were just normal sized plants, but the third group that were watered, fed and given loving thoughts and emotions were healthy and robust.
Then there is Kirlian photography where the plant leaf is cut in half and when photographed the other side of the plant is still there in an energy form. (I guess everyone has heard of that)......

Me thinks I have much reading to do to catch up on the last few weeks away..... tongue

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Hey, Layla. Welcome back. Nice break wink Will get back into this soon. wink
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