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« Reply #30 on: Apr 28th, 2003, 8:34pm »

To all. Please forgive me but I just do not understand what is going on now. I niether have been, will be or ever join a cult, or even swig a glass of it lol grin. I will continue to look at this board frequently and if there is something I see that I remotley understand I will try to comment. Irwyn, please forgive my ignorance.
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« Reply #31 on: Apr 28th, 2003, 8:48pm »

Hey rob, it was just a joke. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. I was poking at you a little to get a rise like friends do. Stick around and discuss the subject. It's interesting.

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« Reply #32 on: Apr 28th, 2003, 10:09pm »

I get the feeling that HJ, Rob, and I looking for quantitative answers in a qualitative discussion. Leaving out the spiritual and psychic aspect of this topic, what kind of information do these beings impart to you. Is there any science being related to in your contacts? For example it seems from previous discussion that my understanding of light and yours are somewhat different.
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« Reply #33 on: Apr 29th, 2003, 04:48am »

I think we are all monitored. Tracking devices we don't even know about. Information taken and statistics about us we don't even know about or even the meaning or usefullness.

If we could see us from a more intergalatic view, I don't think it would be so confusing what is going on here. It is a huge subject. When I first became aware that this was going on all the time, I became very quiet and just watched my thoughts to see more what information could possibly be gotten. From the information I got, there are good beings monitoring and there are ones who want to see the information they are getting smiley

We are a vast unexplored territory. So it seems a bit beside the point to keep saying what is this about. You are what it is about. We think we are alone and we are not. We think we are so smart and we are not. We think we use our brain and - ok, here's a measurable item, we only use 5-10% of our brain. What the heck is going on with the rest and what is it for and why aren't we using it?

I had visions and dreams years ago of how life would be. Noone would believe me but I thought for sure by this time in life I would know a heck of a lot more and I would be able to "think" myself wherever I wanted to go. Instead, this planet is ruled by controllers who just keep people in fear of everything. Even afraid to think! Lord, it must be a cult if people THINK! It must be a CRIME!! Please folks, it really gets old to hear the same little % whine away.

Maybe you all were not motivated to learn everything under the sun that you could when this war started. Maybe you think war is fine and normal. Many of us were pushed by it to search deeply and found religion is a crock. Speeding right along and accepting that, many of us wanted to know why we are led around by all these "authorities" and never use our BRAIN! LITERALY. So this is an important subject because THEY ARE HERE and IT IS TIME and because religion is a CROCK. OK? Many of us want to evolve and USE OUR BRAIN and understand and not stay stuck at square one asking - "well, how do you know?"

again, I recommend you take a look at www.wingmakers.com - starting with the Neruda interviews.
voyager out.

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« Reply #34 on: Apr 29th, 2003, 2:19pm »

To goldenvoyager; I agree with a lot of what you say. When I was a child my hero was Superman because he had greater powers then an ordinary human and also because he came from an outer space world. I have had many flashbacks of living former lives and some of them were memories of living in other worlds. That is why I can accept reincarnation.
To Rob, H. J. and backlit; I am sorry if I cannot give you the physical, tangible proof of what I say. I find it very exciting to stimulate the minds and imaginations and freethinking process of people. I believe that if we can go beyond the limitations of our structured minds and allow abstract and sometimes intuitive thinking then our rewards would be great. I value your friendships and I am delighted to have your participation in this board. Irwyn
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« Reply #35 on: Apr 29th, 2003, 3:03pm »

To H. J. and all; you asked for some tips to help you expand your thinking. When I was teaching psychic development classes I suggest these three exercises.

1. Place a lamp with a 40 watt inside frosted bulb on a table about three feet from where you are sitting. Take the lamp shade off. Stare at the exposed bulb. In about 10 minutes you'll be able to read the 40 watt writing on the bulb. In a subsequent exercise replace this bulb with a 60 watt bulb and repeat this experiment. At the beginning you'll see a blur of light but then you'll feel a movement to the area of your forehead above your nose. This exercise helps to develop your psychic or third eye.
2. Find a mirror in your house in a dimly lit room, stare at this mirror looking at your face at a distance of about 10 inches away. As you stare at your face you'll notice that your face will change in shapes and that sometimes your face will have slanted eyes like an Oriental person. Perhaps this is to show you some of the faces of your past lives?
3. Sometimes when you are intensely watching the television or engrossed in reading a book you might see out of the corner of your eye a black shadow dart across the room on the floor. You might think that it is a mouse but it is not. Somehow the right angle vision of the human eye is able to see things from other dimensions that are moving faster than our own dimension. Try these exercises, see if they work. Irwyn
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« Reply #36 on: Apr 29th, 2003, 6:06pm »

Irwyn, we don't all have the same context or expectations; we can only share what is meaningful to us and part of our journey. So I want to post some "context" of how our brothers/sisters on this planet have prepared for these times. First, on the subject of free-thinking:
(example of how free thinking is superior to structured thinking)
What is greater than God, More evil than the devil, The poor have it, The rich need it, And if you eat it, you'll die?
When asked this riddle, 80% of kindergarten kids got the answer, compared to 17% of Stanford University seniors.
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http://www.newconnexion.net/article/03-03/jenkins.html
Divine Plan and Galactic Alignment
by John Major Jenkins
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http://www.newconnexion.net/article/03-03/hopi.html
Message from the Hopi - People of Peace
Posted: March, 2003

You have been telling people that this is the Eleventh Hour, now you must go back and tell them that this is the Hour.

And there are things to be considered:
Where are you living? What are you doing?
What are your relationships? Are you in right relation?
Where is your water? Know your garden.
It is time to speak your Truth. Create your community.
Be good to each other. And do not look outside yourself for the leader.
This could be a good time!

There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and so swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold onto the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart, and they will suffer greatly.
Know the river has its destination. The Elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open and our heads above water. See who is in there with you and celebrate.
At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all, ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey, comes to a halt.
The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves!
Banish the word 'struggle' from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration.
We are the ones we have been waiting for.
The Elders
Oraibi, Arizona
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« Reply #37 on: Apr 29th, 2003, 8:28pm »

Thanks Voyager!

Hey I got that riddle immediately. Not bad for a serious, mentally structured skeptic huh? cool I'll check out the links. Thanks.

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« Reply #38 on: Apr 30th, 2003, 01:51am »

Traveler, your comments on the fact that things are not as advanced now as you thought perplexes me. Humanity more than likely would be more advanced than it is now if our evolutionary path had been guided along by "others" but that has not been the case for our planet. Humanity will have to make tough decisions about its future. Sometimes the only way to teach a child is to let them fail and hope they understand the error. Religion and war all have some social and societal benifits within limits. Some think that ET's will correct all our past mistakes with higher philosphical views and advanced technology. I do not subscribe to this viewpoint. My opinion is that they will stay away from intervention until we have arrived at some predetermined point in our evolution where we no longer see war as a solution to solving problems. Yes you are right we should be further along and if we don't change we will be in dire trouble ... but change, like evolution, takes time. Voyager, the question "how do you know" is a valid question for anyone to ask. A good answer is "because I have experienced it."
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« Reply #39 on: Apr 30th, 2003, 2:56pm »

Backlit, I have shied from simply expressing that because of intimidation and denial I have experienced also. And that is the way the not-so-friendly show up - to keep you from stepping up to the plate. I have found that as soon as I do step up - THEY shy away (different manifestations, still same "operative"). So, Thank you Backlit for the answer to boldly say and keep on the tip of my tongue.

hjdelight - OK! Good on ya!

regarding Backlit's comment: "My opinion is that they will stay away from intervention until we have arrived at some predetermined point in our evolution where we no longer see war as a solution to solving problems. "
I think we have arrived at that point. And while all the permutations of that are too long to explain, the following URL gives a huge overview.
I have been following this website for almost a year (still have not read even half of it). It was because of my own experiences of watching events and players over a 10 year period and having my own perspective that I was able to verify for myself, on a daily basis the NESARA reports there. I realized what the level of integrity I believe is operating there, and therefore I have developed trust in what they are saying and their sources. Their context is still new to me and I read it carefully. This is from the webmaster.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/NESARA/news/State-of-NESARA-04-16-03.html

Irwyn, It has been hugely perplexing for me why we haven't advanced as I have seen in my dreams and known in my soul - often feeling I must have landed on the wrong planet smiley most of my adult life.
Learning about how we are interfered with took a long time to figure out - I was naive for so long. I had an "awakening" not so long ago and it became much more clear to me my purpose here and from a more multidimensional (many time frames and lifetimes gathering) perspective. I felt so deeply grateful in my soul and still do. That is around the time when the information started coming of really seeing more what is going on here, and finally, I could see this is all really for a grand purpose that we are all connected and participants in and being heard here and I just know in my soul, the long awaited dreams are going to be fulfilled. I really resonate with most of the information in that URL (above).
It is still somewhat of a struggle to clear all the interference and totally believe in myself - and at least now, I have much better understanding what I am dealing with on multilevels. goldie.
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« Reply #40 on: Apr 30th, 2003, 4:59pm »

Thank you GoldenVoyager for that beautiful message from the Hopi Indians. The Hopi Indians say in their legends that they were contacted by UFOs and that there was a covenant made between them and UFOs. I believe there is truth in this. Your thoughts and philosophies are so much like mine.

I remember seeing a vision once where I saw myself as an adult and I was being held on each side by Angels and my head was tightly bound with a white cloth. I was being forced into the birth canal and I was being born under protest. I realize now that I could not choose whether to be born or not and that it was important for me to live this life not only for my own learning but also to work for a greater cause.

I do not agree with backlit regarding the time that the UFOs will appear. The time is now. We are in the end days of this civilization now. They cannot wait for us to destroy ourselves before they will intervene. As the Hopi said in that poem we cannot hold on to the shore but we must go with the flow. This means that we cannot hold on to people or places or things or teachings from the past. We must go to a higher evolution.

Some time ago some idiot scientists decided to see what shape the Earth was, so they detonated a gigantic atomic bomb in the Antartic and they mapped out the vibrations. Had it not been for UFOs intervention the earth would have been knocked out of its axis and all life on this planet would have ceased. So much for scientists. Irwyn
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« Reply #41 on: Apr 30th, 2003, 5:05pm »

H. J. would you share your wife's OBE experience with us? Irwyn
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« Reply #42 on: Apr 30th, 2003, 9:54pm »

Sure Irwyn,
It was in a hospital. She had undergone a hysterectomy and was recovering. She suddenly found herself floating up in the corner of the room and watching the doctors and nurses work on her body. She was bleeding so badly that the mattress of the bed was saturated. She heard what they said as they frantically tried to stop the bleeding. After awhile she returned to her body but remembered being out of it. I'm the only one she's told because it embarrasses her. I find it fascinating and exciting to know someone so well that has experienced such a thing.

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« Reply #43 on: May 1st, 2003, 11:41pm »

I don't understand her embarrassment. That is such a fantastic thing to have happen under the worst of circumstances. It is a lot to ask and probobly off topic but more detail about her OBE would be great but only if she would feel comfortable about it. One question I have is did she have a feeling of ultimate peacefulness in her experience? I realize people, even your own family , tend to look at you kind of sideways when you relate experiences like this but I have been in a situation where the reality of the experience is almost what you could define as super reality where when you "come back" our reality almost seems unreal. It can be a very traumatic and somewhat dissappointing "returning". I sat around for a whole day before I realized I was back. This reality we are in now was like a dream. I experienced a peace that cannot be defined by any language. Returning was so dissappiointing, I cried. It was that intense.
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« Reply #44 on: May 2nd, 2003, 07:37am »

To tell you the truth, I think she is embarrassed because she thinks it was so weird. She can't conceive that it was a real experience but only a life-like dream. Actually, she would be quite angry if she knew I was even discussing it. But I'll try to get her impressions as to how she felt at the time.

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