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« Reply #45 on: May 2nd, 2003, 12:24pm »

To HJ; thank you and your wife for sharing that OBE experience with us. What your wife experienced was something like astral projection. It was not a cosmic consciousness experience. There is a great difference. I am asking backlit if he would please share his OBE experience with us.

Backlit was correct in what he was saying. When you have an experiences like that it is a different kind of reality. It makes this life reality seem like a dream, unreal. It is very painful and difficult to come back to this life when you have had a different dimensional experience. But you are forced to return here because you life is not over. Let me illustrate the difference between an OBE and a cosmic consciousness experience using my own real-life experience.

In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I laid down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.

I appeared to have what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being pursued by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape. I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic courtyard completely different from the other backyards. The floor consisted of black and white marble squares set in a checkerboard pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard, eyesore of black rule of high-end fence at least 12 feet high.

I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle breeze blowing on me. As my dream figure stood there the breeze became a little stronger and more so until it was a wind, and then it became the strong wind of a hurricane. I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious wind. The dream figure asked itself, where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream. Then the strong wind knocked the dream figure down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then I was seized in the grip of a powerful magnetic force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an elevator toward the sky.

At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the dream figure being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a higher entity overseeing this entire experience. As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my soul was being pulled out of my body and this would mean my physical death. I extended my arms both in the dream and in my physical body to ward off this magnetic pull. When I was halfway between my bed and the sky an ecstatic feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and soul. This feeling was a feeling of pure love. This love was so beautiful and pure that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my soul home to its source.

At this instant I reached up with my arms in the dream and in my physical body to draw me toward this beautiful ecstasy. At this time I had no thought of anything on this earth, not my mother, father, family, or the friends. Only the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force. Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch being closed in the hallway. Instantly the dream figure stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an elevator until it entered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy safe door being closed and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the dream figure had joined with the physical body and I was a whole person again.

During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly the tingling sensation began to wear off and soon I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements. I was never the same after this experience and my value system changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality. Irwyn
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« Reply #46 on: May 2nd, 2003, 12:46pm »

Addendum to the above; I forgot an important piece of this experience. When I had that overwhelming feeling of love and connection, for a few seconds I became one with the universe and I knew everything. Also, this feeling of love transcended any earthly feeling of love such as love for a mother or sibling or child or mate. It cannot be compared to any earthly love as we know it. Irwyn
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« Reply #47 on: May 2nd, 2003, 12:51pm »

Please forgive my spelling errors but I am using Dragon voice activation system and I'm disappointed that it is not too accurate. Sorry, Irwyn
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« Reply #48 on: May 2nd, 2003, 2:31pm »

That was a fascinating dream. Would you say it was a religious experience? My wife experienced no change whatsoever in her attitudes so I can see the difference from what happened to you.

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« Reply #49 on: May 3rd, 2003, 3:02pm »

To HJ; that experience which I related was primarily a consciousness-raising experience as well as a spiritual enlightenment. I've always been curious regarding who I am, where I come from and what was my place in the universe. During my life I've had past life memories and some of them involved existing in other worlds and other dimensions. I've always wanted to go home and I knew that this planet was not my home. Sometimes I have recalled some past lives by events that happened in this life. For example;

I saw a movie in which an Arab was buried in the sand and honey was smeared on his face and red ants ate him up alive. I was very disturbed when I saw this and I remembered that this happened to me in a past life also. I saw a different movie in which a knight in armor in England was abusing people and raping women. This also upset me and I remembered that I had been like this in a past life. These past life memories stay with us and they are embedded in our subconscious memory and sometimes they pop out.

I also remember that there was a laboratory type room and I saw what looked like a large console type TV and the screen was giving off a purple color light and I knew that if I looked at this light my entire mind would be drained from me. I knew that this was a past life memory from an outer space war in a different world.

Most of my U.F.O. and psychic experiences as are related in my board are described in my book entitled,"the soul is a traveler in time"which is available for sale at a member reduced price. If you're interested contact me at; ircon1@adelphia.net. Thank you for your input, Irwyn
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« Reply #50 on: May 3rd, 2003, 3:58pm »

HJ, no need to get the wife riled up at you over this. Don't want to wake up one day without a modem do ya? grin
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« Reply #51 on: May 3rd, 2003, 7:19pm »

Or something more important! LOL!

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« Reply #52 on: May 6th, 2003, 2:29pm »

Will somebody please tell me what LOL means?
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« Reply #53 on: May 6th, 2003, 7:52pm »

Sorry...it means "Laughing Out Loud". It's like a smiley face really and helps keep things from being taken wrong.

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« Reply #54 on: May 6th, 2003, 10:09pm »

I Know a person who is a bio engineer that believes in channeling spirits and such, but when it comes to the topic of UFO's the subject is disregarded as not worthy of discussion. I'm confused at her attitude toward the subject. It is like having a half open mind about things. How can you believe in one and not even consider the possibility of the other? By the way... tornadoes ain't cool.
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« Reply #55 on: May 7th, 2003, 04:57am »

Irwyn. so you are saying that these feelings of having seen a certain object or person before, that we call "De Ja Vous" is something to do with past lives that we have led. Backlit, I know a few people like that, good people but one minded. I try to get them to open their minds to other things but its like hitting my head against a a brickwall, but when I say I do not understand where they are coming from they do not like it. Very selfish I think but thats life is it not. Another human trait.
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« Reply #56 on: May 7th, 2003, 08:42am »

Well said rob. I've seen it also, where people pick their pick and that's the subject that they believe in, dismissing anything else quickly. This board is a good example. Many people believe in angels but won't consider ufos or aliens. This can be vice versa also of course.

Opinions are like *****, everybody has one. But an open mind is a rare thing that should be valued and cared for.

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« Reply #57 on: May 7th, 2003, 09:04am »

To HJ; And here I thought that LOL means lots of luck.

To backlit; I'm very surprising at that engineer. The UFOs technology will rewrite all the books of science and physics. This is the greatest opportunity for mankind to go to a new level of technology. It seems as if his attitude is like tunnel vision. I am more afraid of tornadoes then I am of hurricanes.

To Rob; my feeling is that when you see a person for the first time and you don't like them this is triggering off a memory from a bad encounter in a past life. Conversely if you like a person at first sight this is a happy memory from a past life. It seems that first impressions are very accurate. This is a simplified explanation. Irwyn
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« Reply #58 on: May 7th, 2003, 09:30am »

"Fasten your seat belts, this is going to be a bumpy ride".

Many UFO researchers believe that the "greys" are sentient, biological life forms. I do not believe this. I believe that we're dealing with artificial intelligence constructions. The proof of this is overwhelming. They do not eat, they do not excrete waste products and they do not exhibit any of the normal life functions of biological creatures. They are very curious about our emotional responses and I believe that they are programed to allow them to learn and to absorb whatever they see and experience. I believe that they are a very sophisticated and advanced example of AI, artificial intelligence.
Their feet do not touch the ground, they have no fingerprints, they do not speak and they communicate with mental telepathy and mind control. They appear to have a special power in their eyes which controls people and their environments.

I believe that these constructions are designed to perform space exploration, research and other duties and were manufactured to perform tasks. Who or what manufactured them? Who are their masters? What do you guys think? Irwyn
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« Reply #59 on: May 7th, 2003, 2:03pm »

How provocative Irwyn! Yes, everything you say about the Greys is correct and I think your assumption of what they are is correct, at least within our experience. I'll go one step further and present my pet theory. This is that they are time travelers sent by a future (probably) civilization to accomplish some task. Who knows what task it could be but it probably involves genetics. Could the psychic world tell us what they are about?

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