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« Reply #525 on: May 1st, 2007, 9:26pm »

Continued from previous posting....

Maybe the timeline does not exist; but rather a way of referencing something that happenned in 1980, or could be 1999, or 2007, just a way to reference a memory or event.

Even tomorrow, my beliefs could drastically change from what they are today; if some event unfolded that challenged my beliefs to where they are today. I believe my beliefs are evolving based on life experience.

I am not sure if God or a higher intelligence would see me as a "monkey" or a interdimensional genius of a spiritual adept that can travel time, space and other planes; but regardless of what reference to intelligence could be made; perhaps as SOUL, the parameters in which our intelligence or lack of intelligence could be measured could be meaningless.

If we die and there is nothing afterwards; then the most intelligent or gifted beings would cease at the moment of death. But perhaps the deaf and mute person who was unable to learn arithmetic or language because of the inability of two of their five senses does not mean they are less intelligent; quite the contrary; the way they see the world could be different; but perhaps on the scale of SOUL, they are thriving and learning well beyond what people are without those limitations.

Perhaps as adults, if we could relearn to see the world though the eyes of a young child, we would not be subjective to measuring people as smarter or less intelligent than others, we would not discriminate in the way we see people or things; we would not want to see disputes resolved with weapons of destruction. We would probably want everyone to be good to each other in the purest and most loving form.

From a young age, people start learning discrmination; by segregating some as smart, some as less intelligent, some as atlhletes, others as non inclined to be atheletic, where the media starts making people believe that beauty rests within certain physical features and measurements; rather than seeing beauty as a person being a SOUL. If we did not have physical bodies, if we did not have money to measure success as wealth, or things like that, think of how the world could be. Perhaps the darkness of the world is getting attached to things liike material wealth, segregating people by race, sex, religion or creed, building borders to keep people in or out of countries or even buildings, regardless of the scale; borders even on school yards, to keep girls seperated from boys; is a way of enacting segregation. Imagine how intelligent entities on other worlds or spiritual planes would see us? Imagine how quick a war would end between two countries on earth; if we were suddenly told an alien aramada of crafts were headed toward earth to wipe out humanity? Our priorities would change drastically and quickly. I am using these things as illustrations to show how beliefs or ideas could change in a moments notice.

When we limiit ouselves to our five senses in seeing the world and universe; it is like being a fish in a pond, not seeing the rest of the world or universe outside of the pool of water in the pond. If we limit our beliefs that all there is; is what is in the pond; we are shutting the doors and ideas on what all their could be beyond the boundaires of the pool of water; and how we see our world and universe now, could be the same way, limited by what we see in a pool of water scenerio.

I don't know who the master creator of all there is; is. But I do believe angels are not the master creator; as their are multiple angels. There had to be one creator to start the process. But then again, if a creator created everything; who created the creator. Perhaps is, is what there is. Always, no past, no future; what is, is!

Then again, I don't really know, as my perception and ideas are limited to what I have seen and experienced in this pond that we call earth. Would love to know what lies on the other side of this pond, say in a neighboring galaxy. Wonder how many intelligent life forms there are? I bet there are many and perhaps we would be surprised in what intellgence is iteself.

Clear as mud?

Just a few of my thoughts.

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« Reply #526 on: May 7th, 2007, 08:33am »

Allow me to clarify. It appears as if you have all misinterpreted what I have posted. The highest intelligence and Being is the Creator.. However, you do not normally come in contact with the Creator. Angels are assigned to contact with you and to work with you. As for structured religions, they have caused wars and genocides and dissension and have prosecuted and persecuted people who were different and who did not conform to their limited and man-made structured doctrines. Religion is as far apart from God as one end of the Universe is from the other. When you can comprehend this concept, then you have moved up to a higher level. As for "free will", allow me to post a true life experience to illustrate that point.

"When I was being developed psychically and when I lived in the Y.M.H.A. on East 92nd Street New York I had this experience;
I was put into a psychic state and my mind was speeded up so that I could see my own thoughts, and as I "saw"
myself thinking a thought, the Angels dictated a whole book to me. The message was very clear. We have free will, but while we are thinking of which direction we will take the Angels prepare the road for us. Their minds are thousands of times faster than ours so we can have free will but it will not interfere with Angel guidance."

The highest contact I've ever had, which I believe was with God [Creator] was as follows;

In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.
I appeared to have what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being pursued by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape. I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic courtyard completely different from the other backyards. The floor consisted of black and white marble squares set in a checkerboard pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard, eyesore of black rule of high-end fence at least 12 feet high.
I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle breeze blowing on me. As my dream figure stood there the breeze became a little stronger and more so until it was a wind, and then it became the strong wind of a hurricane. I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious wind. The dream figure asked itself, where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream? Then the strong wind knocked the "dream figure" down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then I was seized in the grip of a powerful magnetic force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an elevator toward the sky.
At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the dream figure being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a higher entity overseeing this entire experience. As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my Soul was being pulled out of my body and this would mean my physical death. I extended my arms both in the dream and in my physical body to ward off this magnetic pull. When I was halfway between my bed and the sky an ecstatic feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and Soul. This feeling was a feeling of pure love. This love was so beautiful and pure that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my Soul "home" to its source.At this instant I reached up with my arms in the dream and in my physical body to draw me toward this beautiful ecstasy. At this time I had no thought of anything on this earth, not my mother, father, family, or my friends. Only the overpowering joy of yielding to this "Supreme Force". Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch being closed in the hallway. Instantly the dream figure stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an elevator until it entered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy safe door being closed and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the dream figure had joined with the physical body and I was a whole person again.
During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly the tingling sensation began to wear off and soon I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements. I was never the same after this experience and my value system changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality.
What do you think? Irwyn

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« Reply #527 on: May 7th, 2007, 6:56pm »

George, most of the times you cannot seek true "OOB" experiences, they just happen.
What I had experienced was not a classical "OOB" experience. I call it a "cosmic consciousness" experience. The difference is that a classical "OOB" experience is a form of "astral projection", which usually occurs either when you are close to death,"near death experiencce"[NDE] or when you will have created an "OOB" experience by intense meditation or mental discipline or when you are "taken over" by Angels, and you are "raised"to an Angel World for a few seconds. Certain Holy men and Shamans are able to create a type of "bi-location" where they can actually be in two physical places at the same time. This is a type of controlled "OOB" experience or "astral projection". There is another type of "astral projection" [OOB], which was performed by the Department of Defense and called operation "Stargate", wherein "sensitive" or psychic soldiers were selected and trained in a form of "mind control". Their "astral bodies" would be sent to a "target" location and would gather information and return to their "home" with a report. These types of OOB experiences are two-dimensional, whereas if you recall, in my cosmic consciousness experience I was aware of three separate consciousness levels. There is a vast difference between my experience, and the other "OOB"experiences, which I have described here. It is also interesting that the experimental "subjects" used in project "Stargate" all suffered residual damage to their minds, emotions, and in some cases to their physical bodies. Certain "travelers" involved in this project, "came back" and reported seeing UFOs and other astral creatures which frightened them. I do not recommend that anybody attempt to mind control or manipulate their mind or consciousness to attempt a controlled "OOB" experience. This will bring you into other dimensions of astral worlds which have some weird forms. I hope that this clarifies the difference between a "cosmic consciousness" experience and various forms of "OOB"experiences.

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Irwyn-- 2 questions

1--do you ever seek OOB's (out of body experiences), or do you just accept them if they arise spontaneously?

2--is it valid to seek for them, or better to just accept them if they occur without prompting?
if they do not occur, does that mean they are simply not part of your journey?

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« Reply #528 on: May 16th, 2007, 3:00pm »

FYI; PART1
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Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

Rarely do Star Seeds and Star Kids get an inside glimpse at how the Cabal make use of the secrecy and classification within military and intelligence units to exploit government units to do their work. Recently I have been contacted by a Green Beret Colonel who eventually worked for the National Security Agency (NSA) until quitting in disgust a little over a year ago. He now wants to whistle-blow on what he was ordered to do.
During the years 2000-2005, this Colonel worked for the NSA, Third Echelon. Towards the end of this period, Colonel "Shadow" was in charge of a 53-man training platoon at Area 51 made up of super-elite Special Forces, the best of Green Berets, SEALS, and DELTA Force. It was called Task Force White Tail, and its mission labeled Operation Star Gazer.
The training took place at the subterranean Area 51/S-4 complex in Nevada, and concentrated on counter-operations in urban settings, and specialized in dealing with situations involving Star Visitors in close proximity: how to deal with incoming telepathic communication, mental imagery-sending, and mental cloaking by the Visitors' of their actual appearance. The training also involved function and use of advanced weapons that subdue, immobilize or terminate Star Visitors,
as ordered. The training also encompassed dealing with Star Seed adults and even Star Kids, who have double-handfuls of psychic and other paranormal abilities. Task Force training involved how to evade, confuse, and dissemble, so as to throw off the Star Kids'/Seeds' "reading" of the Special Forces operative, how to counter their psychic abilities with
countervailing psychic force, or psychotronic or other directed-
energy weapons devices, how to break them and super-interrogate them. At a more exotic level, the training included psychological instruction in how not to be attracted to, or drawn in by, these Star Seeds/Kids, and how to try to win them over to join the group that put on this training. The Colonel said there was more training involved, but felt he has said enough with this.The broad implications of training like Task Force White Tail is that the Cabal foresees and is
actively planning for the day when the UFO Cover-Up falters, and it is "necessary" to round up Star Seeds who could cause the Cabal trouble, and to interdict and subdue any Star Visitors who are on the ground. At first, his special-branch NSA superior officer did not tell him what the psi and other special training was for. But the Colonel kept pushing until he learned what the actual objectives were. Upon learning these, the Colonel lost stomach for being further involved in such an enterprise, and resigned. And upon further reflection, he decided to reach out to one or more other Star Seeds to see what could be done about thwarting this Cabal instrumentality's horrific plans. He then contacted me, and divulged this information.
And now you have it.

"Ghost"
Soon after having engaged in dialog with Colonel Shadow, trust had built to the point where the Colonel's older son, "Ghost" decided to contact me also and share his perspective on how alert Intelligence insiders were becoming to the Cabal infiltrators among them. Ghost is a DELTA Force operator. His military career began in 1996 when he received an appointment to the United States Military Academy, West Point. After graduating, he was assigned to the 101st
Airborne (Air Assault) Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. He was soon promoted to DELTA Force (1st Special Operations Operational Detachment-Delta), with further training at Fort Bragg, North Carlina. Ghost has risen to the rank of Major in the U.S. Army. Ghost is proud to follow in the footsteps of his father, a legend in military intelligence circles, and emulates his high standards and genuine (Constitutional) patriotism.
Ghost gives heartening news from the inside about how many NSA agents that formerly were unwittingly doing tasks (dirty work) for the Cabal have now been wised up as to who was behind their trumped-up orders. These informed NSA "White Hats" are making themselves "disappear"so they are no longer available for such misuse. Ghost tells me that it takes years to properly train an agent, so the loss of these personnel is really hurting the Cabal. Let me have you hear it in his own words.
[Ghost]: "And yes, it is good what is happening within the
Intelligence world. The Cabal's resources (agent-wise) have been greatly reduced within the past year. Although this will not take them out of power, it will keep certain, little tasks from being accomplished with such ease. Either way, it is a fight towards the greater good, and maybe one day we can restore this once-great Nation into a habitable, peaceful place where people can be proud to live, and where the Constitution plays the appropriate role that our forefathers (some of them) intended it to play. We may not live to see that great day, but I have a feeling we will. Everything has a purpose, and nothing happens on accident. We are all part of this fight for good, and I am glad that we met, Dr. Boylan. Without you, I may not have made some of my recent decisions." So, the Cabal is weakening why we are growing stronger. This is good
news for the outcome of the Transition from corrupt Fourth World society to a transformed Fifth World one.
"Sting"
The other night I had an extensive conversation with "Sting", the younger son of ex-NSA Colonel "Shadow", and "Ghost"'s younger brother. Like his brother and his father, Sting is a Star Seed. Sting wanted to make additional revelations, adding to what his father and older brother had shared with me. As with the other two, Sting not only gave permission to share what he revealed with the public, but said that was his explicit purpose in calling. Sting joined the U.S. Air Force in 1998 and graduated from the Air Force Academy. Soon thereafter he joined the Air Force Office of Special Intelligence (AFOSI). His career movement up included assignment to the 16th Special Operations Wing and to the 4th Special Operations Squadron, the "Ghost Riders", with training at Hurlburt Field, within the sprawling Eglin Air Force Base, Florida. The 4th SpecOps is a rapid-deployable unit with global reach, specializing in infiltrating, resupplying, and exfiltrating U.S. and allied special-operations forces during long-range, low-level penetrations of hostile or denied territory at night. Sting moved from there to the Air Force Office of Special Intelligence (AFOSI) in 2006. Sting says AFOSI gives the impression of being a law enforcement investigations unit. It is anything but, he says. While in AFOSI, he received orientation to "aliens" and
related training. This "training" including liberal amounts of
disinformation designed to make sure AFOSI agents carried out orders. For example, Sting says that orientation included a supposed "history of hostile relations with the Star Visitors." The training propaganda was nuanced, with the indoctrination that "a small portion of the Star Visitors are rebels." Sting was quite unsettled as he narrated an incident that made him
decide to leave AFOSI. He received an assignment to travel to Germany and to find a man who was described as "a danger to U.S. Intelligence." Sting did his job and found the man one night. It was dark but he fired a fatal shot. As he drew closer to the dead man on the ground, Sting noticed that the man's pupils dilated enormously in death, causing his somewhat larger than human eyes to become all black. The man had no hair, not even facial stubble. His skin was pale and reflected light in a manner different than human skin would. He was very slender with absolutely no body fat. He was unusually tall. Sting quickly realized that the man was a Star Visitor. He felt he ad "screwed up". He had joined AFOSI to take out enemy agents,
not Star Visitors. He left AFOSI and joined another military-intelligence organization. During his time with that organization, he became aware of a super-elite covert intelligence unit that reports directly to the Pentagon. The unit's rumored cryptonym is "Clandestine Knights". So extraordinary is the mission of the Clandestine Knights that Sting wanted to be sure word got out about it. The Clandestine Knights unit was created in June, 2006. It is composed of five teams of ten-each, made up of super-elite special forces operators, men and women from all Spec-Ops branches of the military: Army DELTA, Navy Special Warfare Development Group (DEVGRU; formerly SEAL Teams 6 and 8), Air Force SpecOps Squadrons, Marine
Corps SpecOps Command (MARSOC), etc. Sting has learned that the Clandestine Knights is an experiment closely watched by the Pentagon. Of its fifty members half are Star Seeds who are aware they are Star Seeds, and half are Star Seeds who
are not aware of their identity and advanced potentials.
The experiment which a covert branch within the Pentagon is
conducting is to determine the degree to which awareness of Star Seed identity makes a difference in the performance of these special operators in comparison with the Star Seeds who are not aware they are such. I commented to Sting that this Clandestine Knights experiment is a watershed development within the military. I also commented that the outcome of the experiment is an obvious conclusion: that Aware Star
Seeds are going to vastly out-perform Unaware Star Seeds.
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« Reply #529 on: May 16th, 2007, 3:06pm »

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Aware Star Seeds are readily able to summon up various psychic and other high-development skills to augment traditional methods, or even stand alone as the superior tactics or strategies of choice for assignment situations.
Unaware Star Seed operators are going to use only conventional Spec-Ops methods.
I told Sting that the Pentagon is moving ahead with its dream of developing the Super-Soldier. (What they may not realize is that the Super-Soldier is not going to follow deceptive or immoral orders.) Also important to note, I told Sting, is that the Cabal are going to derive pointers from this experiment: that it is important to keep Star Seeds in the dark as long as possible about their actual identity and advanced potentials.
Colonel Shadow and his two sons have taken considerable risk and suffered consequences already for sharing this information. Yesterday the Cabal cleaned out a bank account the Colonel maintained abroad, and ran up many tens of thousands of dollars on the Colonel's credit card number. Several days previously the Colonel ran into a roadblock and was the object of an attempted assassination. He narrowly escaped
with his life, although sustained a leg wound.
What are the implications of these striking revelations?
The military and intelligence communities have not only accepted the reality of Star Kids and adult Star Seeds, they have determined that these are the recruits of choice!
Further, the nature of who Star Kids/Seeds are is revolutionizing the way military and intelligence operations are going to be conducted. Skills in marksmanship are going to be supplanted by skills in remote-viewing, telekinesis, and remote-influencing, just to mention three
skill areas. Will Star Seeds cause the military to evolve away from killing and brute force towards a more smart-force operation utilizing such elements as, for example, future-sight, enhanced persuasion, and non-violent containment?
Will Star Seeds cause the intelligence agencies to become obsolete, as these new non-violent (Clandestine) Jedi Knights manage information-gathering and usage in the course of their societal proctoring? In the past, some of us have seen the military and intelligence communities as an obstacle to society's moving into transformed just, peaceable Fifth World.
It may well be the irony of our times that the Star Seeds within such organizations may be among those hastening such an overdue Transition.

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Mostly I just read over a lot of thease post and at times I find some Ideas kind of disturbing... Why we talk about our Goverment and what they want share with the public and what they hide point and case we voted them into power thru election they did not force their way in unles like some which were pre selected not by vote but by way of the iluminnati... any way some us think that we can out smart thease beings or Gods or perhaps trick them in some manner dont you all have common sense.... Remember thease events has not just began nor any one yet been around goverments of the earths or any one for that matter have flew by or televised ashow saying look what I or we took from Those beings or gods...rember god gave the devil the power to decive he the devil and his troops would be yhe first to brag a bouth their take over of the heavens....AWake stand down you cant force them.... further more whom can account for those humanoid looking beings that look just like you and I .Of all nationnali ties.. the greys the green colored beings are animals to us that talk and fly acraft that we dont under stand ..the power of the most high and theGods under his rank..................think
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on May 20th, 2007, 8:16pm, jugement wrote:
Mostly I just read over a lot of these posts and at times I find some Ideas kind of disturbing... Why we talk about our Goverment and what they want share with the public and what they hide point and case we voted them into power thru election they did not force their way in unles like some which were pre selected not by vote but by way of the iluminnati.


Jugement, I'm going to call this post "Don't Break Your Brain". LOL I find it appropriate.

That's why we have such things now called conspiracy theory. They aren't fact, they are theories so don't let them bother you and certainly don't break your brain over them. They don't bother me because I don't believe any of them and feel that they are balogna for the most part.

A lot of people I think get to involved in certain subjects and can't let go and then it becomes them - especially when they stay on a subject year after year after year and never let go.

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any way some us think that we can out smart thease beings or Gods or perhaps trick them in some manner dont you all have common sense.


There are no words to explain their power and it's futile to even try since nobody would ever believe you anyway and those would just be words flowing on a page. I know that our ability to even attempt to compare ourselves to them in any form or fashion is about the size of a cell, or even smaller. lol

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You're breaking your brain again but I can fix the crack for you.

You're saying god gave the devil the power to decieve and you leave it at that. Don't leave it at that, that's a big mistake. You left it at face value. Continue in your thought with a different statement to yourself and different questions that begin with the word 'why'.

For instance, even if he did give him power to deceive, the question is why? Why did he give him power? Why would someone holy give someone evil great power? Was it to deceive us for grins or do you think that the deception had a bigger purpose that was meant to be. Wouldn't God be a step ahead of the devil? Besides that, if deception were necessary and considering God's nature, God had to have hired someone for the deception because it would be against his own nature to do so. So is it a good thing or a bad thing.

Dwell on the possibilities. Spend hours thinking about it all and don't settle for face value. As well, always dismiss the negative because those will slow you down and go nowhere and instead pretend for the moment that good and evil are working side by side. If there IS synchronicity in your life the truth will eventually fall into your lap.

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They're just people (beings) from a different world who know more about us then we know about ourselves. Besides, it's not as difficult as all that. Don't cause confusion in your own mind over some of the things you read. Remember that much of what you read about aliens (especially on the Internet) is hearsay from someone else who read it elsewhere and then reported it in twenty different directions. After a while it's like a fire and it's out of control and misquoted to death. Besides that, he/she didn't have a single experience to call their own to begin with. That's what I see more then anything on the Internet so take it all with a grain of salt and only trust your own experiences.




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« Reply #532 on: May 21st, 2007, 3:27pm »

I certainly did not want to cause any anxiety or mental problems by posting somebody else's opinions. I consider this forum to be open for review of different ideas and theories. When I post any of my personal experiences, they are real. Therefore, I can only answer for my own real-life experiences. I'm sorry if I have caused any distress.

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WOW Queen OF hearts that old picture by one of your posts do look like the the grim reeper tome also and I laugh to I cried from what you said about it .......
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I'm sorry people, according to Snopes.com this giant skeleton article might be a hoax. Irwyn
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Good ole snopes, that's what they do best.

Ya know Timetraveler, I tend to find that simple logic is answer to most queries we have. Besides the Bible there is other religious literature out there that depend on Achum's Razor. Basically simple logic that the simplest answer is usually the right one works for me.

For that reason, I simply find that the giants of old were nothing more then very tall and strong (muscular) individuals who were found intimidating due to their size, similar to that in the story of Sampson and his brawn or David and Goliath.


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« Reply #536 on: Jun 16th, 2007, 09:47am »

I'm very gratified to see so many diverse, but interesting theories and opinions. And that's what makes an intelligent conversation. I believe that the conscious mind is the "stupid" mind and that the subconscious mind is capable of communication with entities from higher worlds and dimensions. For me the conscious mind is like my computer, it can only function with input and logic based on information stored in its databanks. Angels and ETs communicate with us in dreams and visions and in putting us into a "trance like" state of mind control. The reason for this is very simple. The information and belief systems stored in the conscious mind interferes with the higher frequency of communication from "higher world" Beings. This creates resistance, whereas the dream state, or vision state are a much easier medium for this type of communication. A good example of this is Edgar Cayce, also known as, "The Sleeping Prophet". The Angels had to put him in an unconscious sleep state to bypass his conscious mind, because his conscious mind was programmed with religious beliefs and concepts. Therefore, he had to be "put under" in order for these higher frequency "inspired" teachings to "come through". Spiritualist mediums similarly receive their inspired teachings, while in a "trance state". Problems that seem too difficult to solve in the "waking" or conscious mind state are often solved by the subconscious mind in the sleep or "dream state". Let us try to understand that Angels and Beings from higher worlds are higher frequency, and they have to step down their vibrations like a step down transformer has to convert a higher frequency to a lower frequency.

Also, we do not receive inspired teachings or messages from the departed or spirits of the dead. They do not have the power to, "raise" themselves, the communication comes from Angels who impersonate the deceased, in order to maintain comfort and contact with human Beings.

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« Reply #537 on: Jun 19th, 2007, 08:25am »

As you are aware, mental time is much different from physical time. The departed souls cannot hang around for years to make contact with us. They have to be reincarnated in order to learn. They are on mental time, we are on physical time. The following is an excerpt from my books,

"Sometime ago in 1980's I was studying psychic development with a trance medium psychic called Frank Decker in New York City.

While I was sitting in a sťance circle and I was listening to the voices come through the medium, who were identified by the sitters as their deceased relatives, I received this information psychically; that these voices were not the genuine deceased relatives but that Angels in charge of the sťance were impersonating deceased relatives in order to give comfort and communication to the surviving relatives.
I was also told that Angels come to people as a character that the sitter can identify with and feel comfortable with. If you're a religious Catholic they will come to you as Jesus Christ or as the Virgin Mary. If you're a religious Jewish person the same Angel will come to you as Moses or Elijah or some other character from the Bible.
I feel that this situation applies to many of the sightings where the experience sees a figure that they can accept either from their life experiences or their religious beliefs or from their imagination or as in many cases from the ridiculous or grotesque. I believe that we are dealing with thought forms from the fourth dimension who can read our minds and change appearance to suit our individual thought patterns."

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« Reply #538 on: Jun 20th, 2007, 07:23am »

HI all; JUst a clear Answer to the ufo video taped over brooklyn. N.y post here today 06 -20- 2007. April 2007 by grosdada6. youtube. the acupants are angels. MIND YOUR MIND For THE Jewels OF YOUR SOUL. 100% sure cool
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« Reply #539 on: Jun 21st, 2007, 1:10pm »

NOW HERE IS A TRUTH NOT A STORY = WHICH equals A lie; GOVERment JESUS AND WHY THEASE great stories or lies are told yes in code my story or truth which it is mytholigy= myaccount.WHEN A FISHERMAN GOES OUT TO SEA AND RUNS INTO A BAD STORM HE DO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THE BAD WINDS OF THE STORM HE CHANGES HIS SAIL. SO I ASK YOU AGAIN WHY IS It THAT THE CAP STONE ON THE BACK OF THE ONE DALLAR BILL IS UP THE LITTLE PYPRAMID? ARE WITH ME ? ARE YOU SURE ABOUT WHAT YOU SAY YOU KNOW TO BE TRUTH? MIND YOUR MIND FOR THE JEWELS OF YOUR SOUL. grin
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