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« Reply #570 on: Jul 23rd, 2007, 7:50pm »

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As significant as this realisation is – that the universe is not objective but omnijective, that just beyond the pale of our own safe neighbourhood lies a vast otherness, a numinous landscape (more properly a mindscape) as much as a part of our own psyche as it is terra incognita-it still does to shed light on the deepest mystery of all. As Carl Raschke, a faculty member in the department of Religious Studies at the University of Denver, notes, “In the omnijective cosmos, where UFOs have their place alongside quasars and salamanders, the issue of the veridical, or hallucinatory, status of flowing, circular apparitions, becomes moot. The problem is not whether they exist or in what sense they exist, but what ultimate aim they serve.”

In other words, what is the final identity of these beings? Again, as with entities encountered in the near-death realm, there are no clear cut answers. On one end of the spectrum, researchers such as Ring and Grosso lean toward the idea that, despite their impingements in the world of matter, they are more psychic projection than non-human intelligence. Grosso, for instance, thinks that like Marian visions, they are further evidence that the psyche of the human race is in a state of unrest. As he states, UFOs and other extraordinary phenomena are manifestations of a disturbance in the collective unconscious of the human species.

On the other end of the spectrum are those researchers who maintain that, despite their archetypal characteristics, UFOs are more alien intelligence than psychic projection. For example, Raschke believes that UFOs are a “holographic materialisation from a conjugate dimension of the universe” and that this interpretation “certainly must take precedence of the psychic projection hypotheses which flounders when one examines thoughtfully the astounding, vivid, complex and consistent features of the ‘aliens’ and their ‘spaceships’ described by abducteees.”

Vallee is also in this camp: “I believe that the UFO phenomenon is one of the ways through which an alien form of intelligence of incredible complexity is communicating with us symbolically. There is no indication that it is extraterrestrial. Instead, there is mounting evidence that it,….(comes from) other dimensions beyond space-time; form a multiverse which is all around us, and of which we have stubbornly refused to consider in spite of the evidence available to us for centuries.”

As for my own feelings, I believe that probably no single explanation can account for all of the varied aspects of the UFO phenomenon. Given the apparent vastness of the subtler levels of reality, it is easy for me to believe that there are no doubt countless non-physical species in the higher vibratory realms. Although the abundance of UFO sightings may bode against their being extraterrestrial-given the obstacle posed by the immense interstellar distances separating the Earth from the other stars in the galaxy-in a holographic universe, a universe in which there may be an infinity of realities occupying the same space as our own world, it ceases not only to be a sticking point, but my in fact be evidence of just how unfathomably abundant with intelligent life the super hologram is.

The truth is that we simply do not have the information necessary to assess how many non-physical species are sharing our own space. Although the physical cosmos may turn out to be an ecological Sahara, the spaceless and timeless expanses of the inner cosmos may be as rich with life as the rain forest and the coral reef. After all, research into the life as the rain forest and the coral reef. After all, research into NDEs and shamanic experiences has so far taken us only just inside the borders of this cloud-shrouded realm. We do not yet know how large its continents are or how many oceans and mountain ranges it contains.

And if we are being visited by beings who are as unsubstantial and plastic in form as the bodies OBEers find themselves in after they have exteriorsed, it is not all surprising that they might appear in a chameleonlike multitude of shapes. In fact, there actual appearance many be so beyond our comprehension that it maybe our own holographically organised minds that give them these shapes. Just as well convert the beings of light encountered during NDEs into religious historical personages, and clouds of pure information into libraries and institutions of learning, our minds may also be sculpting the outward appearance of the UFO phenomenon.

It is interesting to note that if this is the case, it means that the true reality of these beings is apparently so transmundane and strange that we have to plumb the deepest regions of our folk memories and mythological unconscious to find the necessary symbols to give them form. It also means that we must be exceedingly careful in interpreting their actions. For example, the medical examinations that are the centrepiece of so many UFO abductions may be only a symbolic representation of what is going on. Rather than probing our physical bodies, these non-physical intelligences actually may be probing some portion of us for which we currently have no labels, perhaps the subtle anatomy of our energy selves or even our very souls. Such are the problems one faces if the phenomenon is indeed an omnijective manifestation of a non-human intelligence.
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« Reply #571 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 2:14pm »

My wife Connie and I have just returned from seven days in Las Vegas. What a waste of time and money. Vibrations are so bad in Vegas, and it was 110°, to make it even worse.

We live in a three-dimensional World. There are seven dimensions to Creation. The third dimension involves physical Beings and physical worlds. The fourth dimension, which is a parallel dimension to ours is a combination of astral and mental Beings. The Universe is always moving, and at this time our third dimension World is very close to the fourth dimensional Worlds, and it is very easy for fourth dimensional astral bodies to "cross over" and take solid physical forms and to engage in mischief or in vicarious "feeding" off our emotions. There are many recorded incidents where "chupacabras" have appeared and UFOs have been seen in the same area. The UFOs did not transport the chupacabras to our World. Certain UFOs have been assigned to monitor them and to transport them back to their Worlds. That is because the "chupacabras" are too much of a threat to our World, and we cannot effectively deal with them. UFOs play many roles, including protecting the balance of life and the life forms of this planet.

Most fables and elements of mythology contain real creatures. Winged dragons, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Leprechauns, Elves and Fairies exist in the fourth dimension. The "Guardian Angels" exist in the fifth dimension and "Angels of Light" exist in the sixth dimension.

I have been attacked many times by evil creatures from the fourth dimension, but my Guardian Angels have protected me and saved my life countless times.

Thank God for Angels, Irwyn cool cool cool
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« Reply #572 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 2:22pm »

I thank you all for your most favorable and supporting posts. When you understand some simple, basic realities, then it makes it easier to understand the "Big Picture".

The Human race is an experimental race which was originally designed to teach Souls by experience. Unfortunately, the Angels in charge of this project, namely, Jehovah and Satan have assumed the roles of "deities" and have taken advantage of their "mandate" to raise civilizations to their apex and then destroy them. They have engaged in "war games" and in the genocide of certain races. The Human race, does not control its own destiny, the Angels Jehovah and Satan do.

When you naïvely believe that the human race will change its ways and save itself, you are sadly mistaken. Remember that these higher worlds can see the future, and prepare for it. That is why they are constructing the new hybrid human race to be implemented before the year 2012. They know that the "Angels of Light" will come to monitor them and to examine their work. That's why they are trying to create the new hybrid Human race and to claim that this is their "work product".

When you ask, what can we do to help to save the human race? You can help by raising the level of your own consciousness, and by communicating a higher understanding.

The evil powers that control this planet must answer to the "Angels Of Light", who are the highest Angels and who are responsible for the care and maintenance of the entire Universe and all of Creation. This "judgment" is indicated in the holy books, as the "Day of Reckoning". This will take place before the year 2012. Do not be concerned with whatever negative acts or actions you have been responsible for. We have all been "pawns" in this "game". This is all part of the Souls learning.

Try to rise above this World and all of its evil and insanity, and believe that there are higher intelligences which will restore order and balance.

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« Reply #573 on: Jul 24th, 2007, 2:27pm »

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My wife Connie and I have just returned from seven days in Las Vegas. What a waste of time and money. Vibrations are so bad in Vegas, and it was 110°, to make it even worse.

We live in a three-dimensional World. There are seven dimensions to Creation. The third dimension involves physical beings and physical worlds. The fourth dimension, which is a parallel dimension to ours is a combination of astral and mental Beings. The Universe is always moving, and at this time our third dimension World is very close to the fourth dimensional Worlds, and it is very easy for fourth dimensional astral bodies to "cross over" and take solid physical forms and to engage in mischief or in vicarious feeding off our emotions. There are many recorded incidents where "chupacabras" have appeared and UFOs have been seen in the same area. The UFOs did not transport the chupacabras to our world. Certain UFOs have been assigned to monitor them and to transport them back to their Worlds. That is because the "chupacabras" are too much of a threat to our World, and we cannot effectively deal with them. UFOs play many roles, including protecting the balance of life and the life forms of this planet.

Most fables and elements of mythology contain real creatures. Winged dragons, Centaurs, Gargoyles, Leprechauns, Elves and Fairies exist in the fourth dimension. The Guardian Angels exist in the fifth dimension and Angels of light exist in the sixth dimension.

I have been attacked many times by evil creatures from the fourth dimension, but my Guardian Angels have protected me and saved my life countless times.

Thank God for Angels, Irwyn
hey timetraveler; good to see you on forum. I had posted something on the drone topic about how we are either stuck on this third dimension by beings on that are disagreeable that dont want us to advance to a higher level of existence. and that being is draco the three finger reptilian grey, which is in a group of four that work together hereon earth. good to hear from you.
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« Reply #574 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 01:11am »

I have always liked to go to the Sacred Texts site and read the information there. I also like reading folklore although when younger I could not make hide nor hair of it. But when you read it in terms of aliens and other dimensional beings its amazing the light it sheds on folklore. Folklore is full of abduction stories, dwarfs, elves, dragons etc. People think this is airy fairy stuff but it was real to those who deemed it important enough to hand it down orally from their time, and in the light of the stories that are emerging in our world now in this time these stories should be looked into to give us a better idea of what we are dealing with.

http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/abduct.html

Humans like something tangible to wrap their minds around, hence the amount of interest generated by the drone enigma. The final proof we have all been hanging out for. But we live in a multi dimensional universe that we all seem to visit in our dreams, and we are much, much more than the sum total that we think we are.

I stand firmly by Irwyn, not only because of my own experiences but in also reading the experiences of others that he is on the right track. Whereas I may not agree with every single thing he says, I agree with him as a whole. In not only taking our own reality into consideration we must also consider these other things that those experiencers have deemed important enough to pass down through the ages. In everything there are grains of truth.

Every culture on earth has these kinds of stories even the Australian aborigines. To me that is saying something.

http://www.project1947.com/forum/bcabor.htm

One story that I feel is of an other dimensional being is this:
In 1982 a 67 year old woman saw a picture of "ET", Steven Spielberg's cute alien creation. It made her think of an experience she had as a 15 year old girl, near the estuary at Mandurah, Western Australia. She supplied a report to the Perth UFO Research Group which stated:
"(In 1930 I was) sitting reading with my parents in a humpy, on a block in Mandurah, in Greary Rd, by the light of a hurricane lamp, with the door partly open. The time (was) about 8 pm as we went to bed early. "A little pink creature walked in. (It was) about 24 inches in height (with) large ears, big bulbous eyes, covered with a film, small hands, large feet, slit of a mouth, no hair, and shiny as if wet or oily. "We were terrified and my father went white and being a religious man said it was the work of the devil. "Picking up a prawning net, he picked it up in it and it made a noise like 'EE...EE' and my father put it outside. We never saw it again and went to bed feeling very scared. This was in 1930 and I never thought any more about it until I saw a picture of 'ET,' although only its eyes were the same. ... It did not have a round body, more straight down like a child's body. I cannot remember seeing any sex organs... (It's shape was) like an elf." [7]

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« Reply #575 on: Jul 26th, 2007, 3:47pm »

Luvey, you are a prime candidate for the Excedrin headache award of the year. In my 77 years of living I have found that the easiest way to become "confused" and to "not understand" anything is to engage or become involved in "intellectual" "discussion". It reminds me of the time that I gave a psychic analysis to a psychologist and in the course of this analysis I described this person as having very strong homocidal tendencies and being schizophrenic. The psychologist listened to what I said, and then calmly replied," isn't that true of every body"?

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« Reply #576 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 07:40am »

All of my life I have loved classical music. One of my favorite classical composers is Aaron Copeland who composed such beautiful pieces as "Billy the Kid" ballet suite,"El Salon Mexico", etc. When I was about 18, I heard Aaron Copeland speak on the radio. He had a very extensive vocabulary, and I could not understand almost anything he said, because he used big words that were beyond a normal person's vocabulary. I realized at that time that his genius in communication was in music and not in speech. I do not care for people who worship words and who use words as ego gratifying platforms to elevate their own self-importance. Perhaps that is why when I was invited to join the "Mensa" organization, I declined on the basis that they were too intellectual for me. "To each his own". That is my own personal preference.

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« Reply #577 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 09:26am »

I agree with a lot of what you guys and gals are saying. We have to become "free thinkers" and to rise above religious teachings and dogma. Religions are man-made and benefit the structured churches and religious organizations. They do not benefit, or teach, or enrich, or enlighten the people. Religions cause Wars,dissension and division among the peoples of this planet. Religions instill fear and guilt and limit the concept of the Creator to be in the image of a super Human Being. How utterly stupid and infantile.

I have memories of past lives, one of which when I was an ET who came from the constellation Orion with a group of 39 other "scientists" and we were indirectly responsible for the destruction of Atlantis. At that time, and in that life I was a "genetic engineer", and I did "experiments" on the humanoids by "melding" some of the genetic DNA contained within the Human genome of birds, fish and animals. These experiments that I performed are still within the genetic coding of the Human Being, and sometimes an embryo is born with a claw hand of a bird or with the fur of an animal. Medical doctors do not understand this, and in their ignorance label this as," genetic mutations". However, these "genetic mutations" are really somehow embedded in the racial "memory" of the Human genomes. This particular past life was revealed to me to be 150,000 years ago. So, we have all lived many past lives in different shapes and forms, and in different Worlds and Dimensions. Try to expand your thinking to a more "Universal" identity and rise above the limitations of your present day life.

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« Reply #578 on: Jul 27th, 2007, 09:51am »

Irwyn I agree with you. I think it's important to look at everything with an OPEN mind even if it goes against what you believe to be true. Because once you close that door and surround yourself with a fixed mindset then in essence you're brain dead. For the spirit to grow and develop we have to look past our predisposed notions and ideas. If we can do that then the possibilities are endless IF we approach life with an open mind. To not try to reach for the stars or seek divine wisdom is foolish. Yet so many folks are happy to settle into a mundane existance. Just my two cents! Dan
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« Reply #580 on: Aug 1st, 2007, 1:15pm »

I am very fortunate at this time because I am getting "revelations" of very high teachings. Somehow, my postings are stimulating my mind to expand. I've written many times that we must think "above" this mundane World and to learn to "think" like Angels. I've just received this very profound, yet apparently simple teaching.

"We come to this Planet as physical Human Beings, and with all the limitations that this infers. All of our special "powers" have been removed and we are like animals in a giant zoo. We are incarnated here for our Souls to learn. But how do our Souls learn? We learn from the "experiences" of making "mistakes". We "cannot" learn, if we are "perfect". But who judges us? The answer which I have just received in meditation, is that nobody judges us! Neither our Guardian Angels or the Creator judges us! We are supposed to judge "ourselves", and by "realizing" right from wrong and good acts from bad acts, we are "teaching" our Souls! To "understand" this higher concept will "free" us from the man-made dogma and rituals of "guilt" and "punishment" and "absolution" which the teachings of the churches and religions have used to "enslave" and "limit" us. This civilization is coming to an "end" and we must "free" ourselves by learning to think "above" the teachings of this World. That is how we will learn to "think" like Angels and "reclaim" our Angelic "identities"!"


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« Reply #581 on: Aug 1st, 2007, 4:43pm »

HI timetraveler; very well put.ONce we start that jurney their are beings that dont want us to reach past this 3rd plain. they are those beings on the 6th plain. they distract you they try to put disagreeable thoughts in your brain,they give you night mares ect.my journey begun a while back 5th plain I am trying to climb,I continue to ask help from the agreeable source to make the complete transformation.RE wink
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FYI, here is an interesting shortcut link to a UFO article, which I received from one of my correspondents. Irwyn


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FYI2, you might find this article interesting. Irwyn

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FYI3, another interesting article from one of my correspondents. Click on the shortcut link. Irwyn



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