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« Reply #735 on: May 24th, 2008, 08:37am »

Fear of HELL has been used since antiquity to force people to behave in certain ways; especially for religion and dogma. Hell is often compared to the "negative" aspects of human behaviour and anything "bad" is usually coined on the side of hell. Most of all; major world religions use the "FEAR" aspect of HELL to raise alot of coin. They try to sell a theology that by being so called "rightous" it will give a ticket to heaven and avoid hell. By creating a HELL; it pays big dividends to these large organizations; and also is a way of "mind control" over large groups of people. It really preyed (not prayed) on people with limited intellectual ability and ignorance; where the so called "authorties" hence authoritarians; ruled over people and used the fear of "going to hell" to make them behave in certain ways. It was only a few years ago; that a priest from a certain Christain Church told me that I would go to HELL, because I am not a follower of his church. I laughed at him and told him that I do not believe in your place you call "HELL".

I believe; subjectively, that many people here on earth go through a sort of HELL; things like pain, suffering, hunger and disease can certainly cause many challenges and hence a hellish existence, but once our SOUL leaves the bodily form, there are no nerve endings or five senses to cause all the limitations that we have in the human bodily forum. If anything, perhaps our state of being on earth is sort of like a hell; as we have to be encumbered by the bondages of the physical body while we are awake or conscious within this vessel we call the body.

It seems we learn things on earth through experiencing things in both the positive and negative aspects of humanity. It always seems that a very small core of people will always impose their laws, way of life and things on the masses. Sometimes, living on earth, we are treated more like Sheeple, than people, eh?

Perhaps, our whole purpose of experiencing life on earth; is to learn; being on a learning curve so SOUL or the essence we call our spark of life; to grow and evolve. Experience seems to be a nurturing part of this existence. Do we serve ourselves; or are we serving some other aspects that we are not concious of? The will to survive seems to be inbred into us; so there must be some purpose to this whole scheme of things.

Personally, in my very own opinion, I am not sold on the concept of HELL as defined in the biblical form or explanation. I think there is another plane of conciouness where other intelligent entities we may coin spirtual masters, angels, ET, etc exist; but it certainly is not a place of brimstone and fire; but perhaps amazement and wonderment.

If my opinion is completely wrong; and that priest who told me that I would be going to Hell; at least I feel quite confident that I will not be there all alone. grin

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« Reply #736 on: May 24th, 2008, 08:40am »

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« Reply #737 on: May 24th, 2008, 08:53am »

Life is indeed a learning experience, but everyone has an aura or glow, which goes from black to pure white or blue , depending on how much light and love we have inside.

But it seems to me lately some people equate black auras with bright ones, as if it doesn't really matter how much you glow.

you eventually HAVE to change from black to bright, there is no excuse of being black all the time.
When you have a cavity in your teeth, why not fix it? What point is there in letting it destroy your teeth?
Same way, when the spirit is ill it emits such a dark light, and the only thing to do is to heal it and make it grow.

Of course the dark ones would like to project the idea that it's a state just as good as being full of love, and that
love is just one way to exist.

I see many people equating hate with love. Fear with faith.
Why is that, i don't know, and it makes me sad.
I just don't understand why people would torture themselves like that
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« Reply #738 on: May 24th, 2008, 09:00am »

That was a very profound posting EBS. Don't forget that when these religious books were given to us we were not as developed in our understanding and consciousness as we are now. We have to go beyond the limitations and admonitions and threats of these books and teachings and make direct communication with our Angels. The priests and mullahs and rabbis cannot give us the answers that we search for. Consciousness is an individual thing and it is up to the individual to find understanding at his or her level.

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« Reply #739 on: May 24th, 2008, 09:03am »

The religious books like Bible are crude in their literal form and primitive in their expression, but they have a deeper dimension. They have a hidden life in them, and revelations which are deeper then any self-proclaimed priest can read in them. You can literally read what isn't there for most people.
They are magic books, literally with encoded deeper truths
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« Reply #740 on: May 24th, 2008, 3:53pm »

Clap clap clap to all of you for some insightful posts!

I will try and remember all of you when I watch the news and ponder if that ET "Quarantine" sign should go back up!

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« Reply #741 on: May 25th, 2008, 10:24pm »

Hello Timetraveler et al:

I cannot help but think; like today, as we use books to communicate ideas; language and thoughts amongst our society; that perhaps, many many years ago; and looking at the symbols like ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphics that if by using images like ICONS; that perhaps were once a more universal type of language than the types used by humankind today.

I know that for most of my thoughts; rather it is an idea, a dream image, or anything else; that everything appears more like a picture in the mind's eye, rather than something like a symbol or printed document.

If we only as as society could move toward a more intuitive type of language where some even would say, that, humans were once very more telepathic than what we are today in the so called modern era.

Imagine what would happen if we could start communicating by the speed of thought, rather than having to use cubersome books and printed materials etc. and language skills to communicate to our fellow humans.

Perhaps I am just doing more of a ramble than anything else here; but I just cannot help but think that if we could start using ICON like images as a way of communicating with each another; that we could remove the messy language barriers that we have today between different dialects, languages and alphabets used in the world today. Speaking with pure thoughts through visionary ICON like images would sound much more accurate than trying to sort out what our fellow human beings mean when we communicate by spoken dialect as in languages. For example, if someone who speaks Russian, cannot understand what the other is saying, if they speak English; the challenge of communicating ideas to each other can be very frustrating and cumbersome. But if we alll spoke a language by using universally accepted ICON images; perhaps the language barriers could be removed and understanding among all nationalities would flourish.

I remember when I was about seven or eight years old, at a camp ground in Prince Edward Island, there was a family next to our camp site who spoke French, and at that time, I could only speak French English and the other chap my age could speak French; so to communicate, we used to draw diagrams with a stick in the sand in the little playground area. Even though we could not understand each other when speaking, we did manage to have a crude way of communicating things to play childhood games with each other.

What do ya think; any possiblities in this?

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« Reply #742 on: May 26th, 2008, 1:07pm »

EBS, don't you realize that when you communicate via mental telepathy you do not use words, you use images. Therefore communication by mental telepathy is not only a universal language but it is also used by ETs as their method of communication. Think about this.

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« Reply #743 on: May 27th, 2008, 07:52am »

When my daughter and I have communicated telepathically it was in the form of images. Perhaps this is because I am a dream shaman (medium) that this is the way I personally "receive" messages. Also, I note from my own experiences, that feelings play a major role in not only what I pick up, but how well I remember an event (that happens in my dream time). Not to confuse feelings with emotions...

Perhaps there are several ways telecommunications work. I also have noted that when my Guides present a lesson in my dream time they have to use what is available in my memory storage that relates to my own personal understanding...this is why I think the "interpretation" of another person's dream can be inaccurate.

Does that make sense? Sometimes it is difficult to explain with words. grin rolleyes
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« Reply #744 on: May 27th, 2008, 09:11am »

This is a very interesting discussion (as always) and it is amazing how preception plays a big role into how we view the world; and our own spot within it.

For example; thinking and communicating in images; I know for me personally; images plays a big role in how I view the world and also as well as remembering dreams. But sometimes SOUNDs play a big role; while meditating, I can hear sounds like the Roar of Thunder; the thumping like a hearbeat; the crashing of ocean waves along the shoreline; the notes of a flute playing and so on. But Images are much easier for me to remember; than perhaps the sounds; but I have had experienced both.

For example in the Spiriutal teachings which I been studying; the so called Spiritual Force or God Force is actually the Light and Sound also known as the Audible Life Current; The Life Force of Holy Spirit which is an essence that sustains all life.

The Tisril Til; also known as the Spiritual Third Eye; is a place we can meditate and often, and with limited training and focus, images will start to appear; they may be of Angels, Masters, places you have been, places you have never seen before, colors of light appear and even recognition of sounds, such as the notes of a flute, thunder, popping of a cork sound etc.

Much like an infant learns to walk, talk and absorb knowledge, we can also learn to open our spiritual third eye, recognize psychic abilities etc. We are so fortunate in Casebooks to have people who have obviously advanced psychic abilties and so freely share their insights with others. I have learned so much from all who post in these forums, especially this thread. Thank you to all of you for the interesting and continued discussions.

There are so many gifts that can be revealed through meditation and OBE's.

Just imagine if our public school systems incorporated meditation and attempted to train people intuition and telepathic communicating with one another. Sadly, it would almost be against unsurmountable odds to be able to get a school to offer such training; let alone have students take the course; but just imagine what the "could be's" are if such a course and time alottment was made to allow student's the freedom of imagination and structured format of meditating for about thirty minutes each day. I am sure it would open a new paradigm for it.

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« Reply #745 on: May 27th, 2008, 3:22pm »

EBS, how can you even imagine that the school system would encourage anything psychic when the Supreme Court and the school system are trying to take any reference to God out of federal and state documents and communications? These are the "last days"of this civilization and all of the "garbage" has risen up to the top in the governments of the world. We have to look for a "higher power" to save us because we cannot save ourselves. I have faith that this will happen soon.

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« Reply #746 on: May 27th, 2008, 7:31pm »

I agree, but not only that, I think that we don't have much choice anyway.

The time of harvest is near, and we have to provide fruit, either we provide fruit on our own, or we probably get wiped out to provide room for someone who will provide fruit.
(probably a modified breed of human beings)

We aren't the first who were close to losing the Earth as their heritage.
I think there were more civilizations before us, human, and possibly reptile too at one point, which lost the ownership of the earth surface.
Same might happen to us.

This is a perfectly good planet, one of the best for life it seems (at least from all that we have observed so far) , and the owners are not going to play games with us for thousands of years.
We must advance this planet to a higher spiritual level, and begin a new era. It's like moving from elementary school to high-school. Earth is a school, but it has to become a high-school, either by force or by our own advancement.

It is human arrogance , the idea that we have unlimited time and space , and own this planet, and can do anything we want with it.

Any kind of destruction of human race in the future either by natural of alien forces, would be an act of self-defense , not violence. And it would probably not come in form of active force, but rather in form of end of protection. I think we are currently protected from natural forces, asteroids, violent races etc, we have no clue, we think we are so powerful and control the nature, but in fact, if those forces who keep us safe quit, we would probably we wiped out by various natural forces.

Not to scare little children...anyone has the chance to save himself individually if the worse comes.
Hopefully we will transform, but if not, many of us will probably get a free ride in a flying saucer.
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« Reply #747 on: May 27th, 2008, 7:55pm »

I agree...I believe these are "the ends times" but nothing like any of the religions, particularly the Christiain religion views this, i.e., harvest etc.

It is my understanding that when humans were genetically engineered the DNA for survival was so strong in the primate counterpart that the off-world coungterpart (Light Being or soul part) had to struggle to overcome the survival instincts and it is that DNA characteristic for survival that has caused "Project Earth" to fall apart. The Great Flood (in Bible reference) was for all practical purposes an effort to annhilate human population, but it didn't work out that way...they were given a reprive, but nothing has changed...survival is still the most destructive force in a human being...wars, greed, over-population still exist. The next phase of human evolution will be spiritual in nature. Just how that will bear fruition I can't say. I do know that humans as we know them today will be radically different by the end of the next 95 years or less. But it doesn't mean total annhilation, it means change. Perhaps all those abductions were to recreate a new human being and the earth will once more be seeded, but with a higher evolved being.

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« Reply #748 on: May 27th, 2008, 8:42pm »

Great postings; I enjoy reading them all.

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« Reply #749 on: May 27th, 2008, 9:24pm »

I put no faith in End Times prophecy. Just dissatisfied earthlings trying to take the rest of humanity down with them because life dealt them a poor set of circumstances in this lifetime and they are unable to rise above thier problems. Deal with it now or the next time around.

I don't believe we are here to get out of it that easily. We've got a few thousand years of work ahead of us as a race. 2012 is the beginning of the age, not the end. Its just a marker for realization.

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