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« Reply #75 on: May 17th, 2003, 01:08am »

So as much as noone "wants" this to be political - it is anyway smiley ... Today we have AIDS, SARS - these are from laboratories, also anthrax and HUGE storages of WMD - nerve gas, tons of stuff here in everybody's backyards right here in usa; do you really think these reptillian stooges are not just itching to use this stuff? These are the weapons of the reptilians and our government are their puppets, as are most world leaders world-wide.
we have the war in Iraq, like the other American wars of the last half a century, do not even have a short- term benefit. On the other hand, the damages are all apparent, with the human suffering, before and during the war; the destruction of the UN; the theft of oil and other resources and the pillage of Iraq, by "who knows who".
After 36 years of occupation it should be totally clear that the Middle East needs a just peace, or there will be no peace. The combination of the people in power in Israel and the US have no such values to contribute. Hundreds of military officers and expert journalists, have come to the conclusion that it is an intended policy of the Israeli government to provoke Palestinian violence, whenever it senses a political process that may threaten the continuation of the occupation and the settlements. More than half the Jewish population of Israel - 53 percent - is opposed to full equal rights for Israeli Arabs, according to a survey conducted last month by the Israel Democracy Institute.
Iraq is occupied and its people and its resources are treated like the Wild West, with total impunity. What is going on in Iraq (and in Afghanistan and Palestine for that matter) is against every international convention, and exceeds the horrors imagined when such conventions were formulated.
Is there a link between scientific progression, and the development of weapons of mass destruction?
There can be absolutely no doubt that science has been directly linked to weapons of mass destruction for at least two centuries. But the responsibility has become much more acute since the development of nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Today this problem is particularly grave because every aspect of existence has become a weapon, not only physics.
Chemists are working on ever more powerful bombs; biologists on mutated species and weapon viruses; engineers and physicists on guided systems and space control; information science and mathematics on controlling international communication systems; the social sciences on providing ideological cover etc. etc.. This globalization of scientific application is pushed and sold the world over, by the US. By now even the most abstract and naive line of research is required to be described, in the grant proposals, as potential application-oriented.
A country that could not launch even one bomb on massive concentrations of an invading army was considered a threat by a power that claims to dominate the entire information space of Iraq, from satellites to overflying planes. It is really a crude joke, had it not implied such a human and institutional disaster.

the insanity can indeed be called "reptillian" - controlling minds and lives of the human race. fear keeps the energy of people calibrating at a lower frequency and easier to manipulate. love would totally expose and disable them.

i think minds expand thru awareness of what is true - not fascination with imagining "power" weaponry.
- to each their own; i find it an inferior way to approach the enemy. the enemy has been here since the beginning -
i think what souls might find difficult to imagine is, what would the human story be about without them...

We do have the returning ones who are fighting them - there are massive amounts of starships right here now fighting (and winning) this war with them.
They are the ones returning who had a nuclear event here in the beginning - they messed up in a power-struggle then, with each other, and this 3-d planet has been about controlling humans and power struggles ever since.
They are here because Earth and humanity, are moving into the 4th dimension - noone gets there without love... (just the way it is Irwyn)
it is not I who think it is a "panacea". that's sounds like a religious view, imo not a scientific one. There are many different scientific systems all correlating about this; measurable, correlating and confirming this information.

History will be rewritten to reflect the truth about the human story soon. Maybe even the next generation will find it hard to believe humans killed each other - hard to believe, but it can be that fast - that is how close we and they are here. we are altogether here. and yes, the inventions will be here - AFTER this war is won - not before... This is a battle of Spirit. no war is about the physical - it has always been about mind control and we're upping the ante in this 2nd millenium.
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« Reply #76 on: May 17th, 2003, 09:36am »

Well, I can't say I buy it but it's interesting. Everyone here has their beliefs and ideas about the situation. You seem to have yours worked out quite well. Thanks. smiley

And TimeTraveler, I wasn't attacking you. I was just trying to investigate the basis of your statements. You seemed open to that whereas others aren't. But you are a moving target. LOL! Feelings and beliefs are not acceptable proof of anything except, perhaps, the mind state of the person expressing them.

We, as a group, have only the abduction reports, sightings and perhaps some trace evidence to even suggest that aliens and real ufos exist at all. When we ascribe complete scenarios involving them, based on nothing much more than our beliefs and imaginations, it's fun but useless.

I have dreams too, vivid ones but I don't think they have anything to do with ufos or aliens.

I think the government is involved somehow with it though how, I can only guess. I have only the released and redacted records. I think aliens (for want of a better word) and ufos are here because of the number and quality of the reports, pictures ect. I'm not a skeptic and I'm willing to listen to anything about it but there is a line that's dangerous to cross. The line is where actual evidence stops and imagination begins.


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« Reply #77 on: May 17th, 2003, 11:43am »

i would hope at least people are a little familiar with some info like at the site http://www.disclosureproject.org/ before seriously posting to a site that calls itself "ufocasebook" - but you never know...
hj, i don't mind your "objective" view as you don't claim to have any interaction so it is easy to "draw a line". i think it is knowledge that is held in the soul anyway - so no one can talk you out of it - it is experienced, it is soul knowledge and they can know what you are capable of. when the sandline is life and death, your psyche and sensitivity increase to where you must believe in yourself or you are dead. our pop culture allows all kinds of things that are not good for us and our families
- that is where i draw the line.
the more you know, the more you can invite intimidation - so i do appreciate your "objectivity".
in the movie "JFK", when Kevin Costner is telling his people: "Hey, people, we've got to start thinking like the CIA. Black is white and white is black." this is how they want you to think - it is easier that way.

WMD is a lot of evidence - there is a lot of evidence of what our CIA/government has done to the people of America and the world. there is so much info and evidence now you can hardly walk without tripping over it. and journalists are tools to a vested interest.

having experienced what i have and how i have, has REALLY opened up my insight into all kinds of things that were previously just some interesting story of someone's experience.

i have also received help from people with deep knowledge about this - when i was near death, so i know knowledge exists and they have developed the tools to fight as once your awareness expands, it doesn't shrink-wrap very well. goldenvoyager out.
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« Reply #78 on: May 17th, 2003, 7:22pm »

Thanks and I am familiar with the Disclosure Project.

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« Reply #79 on: May 19th, 2003, 3:52pm »

We have had a lot of activity in the past week. That's fantastic. I welcome all theories, opinions and facts. In the subject of the U.F.O.s it is very important to hear from abductees and persons who have had contacts and experiences with UFOs.
Please share with us any experiences which you have had which may have been psychic, physical or even dreams that have made an impact on you. This is a discussion board as well as a research forum.
GoldenVoyager: I respect your theories and beliefs as I do with all of the contributors to this board. You mentioned a fear dream that you had in which you were afraid to look in the crystal eyes of certain beings who had no souls for fear that they would suck your soul out of your body.
I had a similar dream or vision in which I saw a laboratory type room and I saw against the wall a device that looked like a console TV that gave off a purple color light in its screen. I knew that if I looked at this purple color light my mind and my soul would be sucked into that device.

I did not feel that this was only a dream. I believe that this was a device that actually existed in a past life when I was in an outer space world and at war with another outer space world.
I recall another similar incident which happened in real-life. In the 1970s I was involved in a meeting with scientists and psychics with the "mind control Institute" in New York City. The purpose of this project was to research and document psychic and electromagnetic waves that emanated from psychics when they were in the power. As I was present in this room we were awaiting the arrival of a very famous psychic whowas asked to be part of this group. I had never met this famous psychic and I was looking forward to his arrival. Then he made his appearance and as soon as I saw him I was overcome with a strong desire to destroy him as if he was an enemy spaceship and as if I was directing all of my laser weapons at him. I sensed at that time that he was from Sirius and that I was from Orion and that we were deadly enemies. At this point a woman psychic sitting next to me said to me," stop doing what you're doing, your face is turning purple".

It seems as if we each have a collective consciousness that follows us as we reincarnate. What you think? Irwyn
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« Reply #80 on: May 19th, 2003, 4:03pm »

That famous psychics name was Ingo Swann and he declined to work with our research group and I heard later on that he was working with the Department of Defense as a psychic resource and that he may have been involved in project Stargate.
I told the director who was Dr.Pierrocus that if Ingo Swann was involved I could not work with him. Irwyn
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« Reply #81 on: May 19th, 2003, 4:41pm »

FYI; Dr. Pierocus was the MD psychiatrist who was the director of the Bioenergetics institute of New York. Irwyn
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« Reply #82 on: May 20th, 2003, 1:13pm »

yes, in the dream i had fear, and it was more like a knowing - i was NOT frozen by fear, i was educated by it - i think there is a big difference. i never felt helpless or a victim. i think awareness strengthens us as knowing what is in your perception field makes you equal in combat. (perception field plays a big role in how ufo's were described in the bible). i have found it is the urge to destroy that weakens me - blows my mind and become completely vicimized by it - the enemy is then free to do whatever they want. i am not saying one is not justified to be angry - i have gone thru LOTS of anger since 9/11 and ranted over the insanity and obvious obliteration of peoples' rights and i could go on and on... what has steadied my course is knowledge that all that is happening here in molesting peoples' spirit - and that is where we gather our forces and in our souls stay calm, knowing and holding peace - this is a force that deflects all that is sent to control us, and that is ALL that this is about. I stay in contact daily with those who are communicating about the real war and find synchronicity in my inner experience and what is reported to be happening in these reports.

it is my strong - beyond life and death - belief and love for God (Infinite Intelligence) that has allowed me to take new steps everyday in saying what is true in the face of CIA/FBI--stooges who spook the internet and brainwash people. they have threatened my life and i am still here and as many people that they are trying to brainwash, i have told the truth - brought to light what they are doing and what is really happening and what is suppressed or deflected. really has made me articulate, use words to say what is.

of course it must be knowledge from past lives that drive me yet, it must be articulated - become known - in THIS life; it must adjust to the time we are in, and participate. to hold back - is to hurt yourself, better to risk everything for truth - that is just how i feel... all these centuries, lives, have been for this - that is how i see it. and there is NO MISTAKE who or what we are, all we have learned is preparation for this time where we are moving into no-time of 4th dimension. All those lives, where we died, taught us not to do that again - why i almost died this time, was to transform my beliefs about being a victim in this life, come to see that i do not have to blame myself for mistakes i made - it was for a greater purpose... so i would be ready and have the knowledge and courage to face the enemy NOW - when they are IN OUR FACE!

just as the FBI kidnaps children and turns them into slaves for their dope and sex rings for the "bosses"... the bad ufo's have interbred with humans to accomplish their agendas on earth... like "father", like "son"...
Today I read, those hybriids are being "locked down" and i feel this to be true by what i am able to see about my own life, taking new steps today in articulating to myself what forces have sought to control me (unconscious or not) and what forces have always known me and believed in me (in life itself)... for them i am eternally grateful. no doubt in my mind of the huge interlacing of lifetimes that have built the unconscious - no mistake about it. it is held in the aura and there to access and use.

I heard "project" Stargate ... was taken over by the good returning ones and Intergalatic Forces. and that was why the "shakinaw" plan did not work (and why bush was in a hurry to get to them - why Iraq? that is why). heheheh - they had to come up with plan B - they will never have access to the those Stargates again. DOD is all talk now - and they DO go on - no help from ufo's anymore. we live in the most magnificent time on our beloved planet. It was good you did not get sucked in Irwyn, and that you are here today to share with us... you are on the right team - the winning side.
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« Reply #83 on: May 20th, 2003, 2:12pm »

GV; thank you for your most interesting reply. I have recounted in my book at least 10 incidents where I faced certain death. In each of these instances I was protected and saved by what I would think was my guardian angel or angels. In some of these instances it was definitely an attack on my life by F.O.E.,[forces of evil]. When you are a messenger or worker of the forces of good you can be expected to be attacked by the dark side.
You have brought up a new subject;........TIME
Time is a variable element that is different in each dimension of reality. In our normal lives we live in physical time, which is the slowest. When we dream or die we exist in mental time. Allow me to illustrate;
when I was about 13 years old, I was sitting in an easy chair and my attention was focused on a clock that was on the mantle. The clock said three o'clock and the secondhand was on the 12. Then I went into what I thought was a daydream. In this "dream" I physically saw and "relived" 13 years of my physical life, incident for incident, detail for detail. Events in my childhood that I had forgotten. This was similar to the flashback experiences that a drowning person sees before their eyes. I realized at that time that an entire physical lifetime could be relived or recalled in minutes in mental time.
I believe that these more advanced worlds whom we call UFOs can manipulate time to travel and for other purposes. What say you? Irwyn
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« Reply #84 on: May 20th, 2003, 2:15pm »

I forgot to mention that this 13 year flashback took 13 seconds on that clock. When I awoke and I looked at the clock and at the secondhand I could not believe that only 13 seconds had elapsed. Irwyn
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« Reply #85 on: May 20th, 2003, 3:38pm »

Never thought about "UFOs can manipulate time to travel and for other purposes." Now that you brought it up, what comes to mind is that they seem to know "what time it is" here on Earth.

I would tend to think that somehow we are all of "one mind" really, and that being so, some are more able to time-travel in that they can, as you experienced, recall 13 years ... in PRECISELY 13 seconds! that kind of coincidence points to the idea that time is just some kind of joke to be played with...

Perhaps this is part of the purpose for the other 90/95% of our brain. I would rather go for that learning than hang around in fear that has no measurable result ... except to waste time. Time is very precious and may turn out to be a joke when we are able to transcend it. Lots to look forward to.

Some months after I received help to bring me back to life, I was half awake wondering if i was wise to trust that person who helped me. He knew so much about me after I allowed access. Time sort of "stood still" as I saw the same way he had access was the way to be in all time. Hard to describe. I experienced this as my heart opening up and you could know anything and everything - completely out of time, no time - and everyone was in "there". One big heart - all the SAME heart. I called this person to tell them and they said they were thinking of a way to help people access this new dimension and it was really good i picked up on this. After 9/11, the government had him working for them, so all i know is what he told me a month or so after 9/11 - that his work involved the 4th AND 5th dimensions in "catching terrorists".

It seems there is also a Universal mind also and that both are "out of time". I have heard it described in a radio show by Dove, who reports on NESARA, that time is not linear and how after NESARA we will learn that (and that may be why in my dream, when everything changed to color - why it was incredibly FAST the changes here on Earth, psychologically and emotionally and spiritually). So, yes, it seems ones are here from our future and how else could our Earth-ship be guided and not be destroyed? So i accept this as logical and truth, yet i cannot see how time "travels" or is manipulated. I just feel in my heart and it feels good and safe; my mind is another "dimension" i do not see how we access all-time... yet, to travel. Maybe we have to be of "one mind" first... just a thought.
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« Reply #86 on: May 20th, 2003, 11:11pm »

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The UFO Casebook has provided this space for exactly the kind of discussion that we have here. No one needs to be offended. I know how difficult it is to show patience and understanding when one feels that they are right about something, and others disagree and just won't be budged, but hey, if we all went to a board where everyone thought exactly alike, that would be kind of boring, and certainly no one would learn anything new, or be exposed to an alternate view.

Although the UFO Casebook and the Forum are supported and payed for by the same supporters, they really serve two different agendas. The Forum is for open discussion, the mainframe of the website is not. If surfers come to the site and see information they do not believe is true, they just won't come back, and they have that right. Those who come here also come freely, but are allowed to express their own opinions. That is exactly what we have accomplished I believe.

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« Reply #87 on: May 22nd, 2003, 6:07pm »

Consider this; in the book written about Betty and Barney Hill regarding their abduction Barney Hill stated that he had no intention of taking that particular route but he took it anyway. It seems to me that the UFOs are able to either predict where someone will be or to control that someone to make them go where they want. This is a frightening form of control.
I also see by the accounts of the abductees that although they were abducted as adults that recall usually under hypnosis that they were also abducted as children. I do not believe that these abductions are random. I believe that these certain people are selected because they fit certain criteria. I also believe that when they are abducted as children that their genetic coding is altered. The UFOs abduct these same people throughout their lives.
What is your thoughts on these matters? Irwyn
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« Reply #88 on: May 22nd, 2003, 6:13pm »

About three months ago I had a very disturbing experience.
I was sitting on my easy chair in my living room and I was relaxing. I was idly looking across the room. Halfway across the room my vision saw what appeared to be the end of this dimension, as if there was a separation in my vision of the room. It was very frightening to me and I momentarily lost my perspective. I do not take drugs and I'm not subject to hallucinations. Did anyone have a similar experience? Can anyone offer an explanation? Irwyn
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« Reply #89 on: May 22nd, 2003, 9:49pm »

To H. J.; I'm glad you're still hanging in there. I appreciate your candor and I respect your need for provable facts. This is a forum of individual opinions and theories and beliefs. I do not believe that any higher or more advanced race is looking to enslave us. Neither do I believe that the FBI is kidnapping children.

I'm trying to encourage reaction to some of the things which I am saying. I realize that many of my experiences are personal and cannot be shared or believed by some people. I shared them with this board to solicit reactions, theories and opinions. I also wanted people to know that reality takes many forms and should not only be measured by a ruler. Thank you for putting up with me and my experiences. What are your experiences? Would you share them with us? Glad to have you aboard, Irwyn
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