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« Reply #750 on: May 28th, 2008, 08:08am »

I don't know if anything is going to happen or if some major upheaval is going to happen. But I know something is changing in the wind; as they say.

Three or four people that I know in my own city; have told me similar stories. They are doing their ordinary things; as usual, could be shopping, could be at work or could be at leisure.

But there is a common thread they are reporting; they have this brief instance, like they are standing in the middle of antiquity. The landscape changes, the architiecture changes, it is like for a very brief moment, they are standing; for example, as a friend of mine by the name of Jhen (name changed to protect identity) she was in a park watching her kids play on the swings, and suddenly it was like she found herself standing on a cobblestone street, in the old city of Rome at the time of Agustus; another fellow, who I will call Rob; was travelling to Europe, was standing in the middle of a sidewalk in a downtown area; when suddenly, just for a brief moment; he saw a barren land, of trees, rocks and no buildings; could not even put an approxmate timescale to it; yet another person who I will call Cora; she and her husband were touring Western Canada; when she had this cold shiver come over her; and she found herself standing in a futuristic event, where there was these machines she described that look like small jets with a much wider body; going over water; like some type of machine that used an air cushion slightly above the surface of water. She said jet, as they were long cylinder type machines; and she feels to this day, it was a quick glimpse of the future, and the strange part, she was holding hands with her husband, he did not feel or see anything out of the ordinary. This has happenned to people I know, and non of them are yet over the age of 48.

What to make of it? Could they be a glimpse; or a fleeting memory of a past life? Could it be a glimpse of a future time?
Was it a waking dream that lasts a second or two? I guess many what if's could be explored and many ideas could be elaborated.

There are lots of things to consider or probabilities, but nevertheless,here is much more to life, than the physical world attributes, eh?

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« Reply #751 on: May 28th, 2008, 09:59am »

EBS, our physical world reality is more tenuous and intangible than we realize. What your friends experienced was a sort of time travel when our minds are able to travel either backwoods or forwards in time. I had a similar experience which I will post now.

"A few years ago, I had a very disturbing experience.
I was sitting on my easy chair in my living room and I was relaxing. I was idly looking across the room. Halfway across the room my vision saw what appeared to be the end of this World dimension, as if there was a separation in my vision of the room? It was very frightening to me and I momentarily lost my perspective. I do not take drugs and I'm not subject to hallucinations. Did anyone have a similar experience? Can anyone offer an explanation?" Irwyn
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« Reply #752 on: May 28th, 2008, 11:57am »

This is for all my friends in the UK. I have agreed to be a guest speaker on a UK radio talk show at 11 p.m. this Saturday. I am posting the pertinent e-mail.

"Hi my name is Paul Ripley I am a presenter on a web based radio show ( the most listened to independant radio station in the UK) www.manchesterradioonline.com .We have just started a show on Saturday nights called “Exploring the Unexplained”. I would like to call you and put you on live during the show, this would be between 11.00pm -1 am UK time on Saturday."


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« Reply #753 on: May 28th, 2008, 12:07pm »

Reply to missguided. It looked to me like a separation and a space between our third dimensional physical world and the fourth dimensional astral world. I was very disoriented as if my mind and my consciousness had fallen into a hole.

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« Reply #754 on: May 28th, 2008, 5:48pm »

on May 27th, 2008, 7:55pm, LoriCordini wrote:
I agree...I believe these are "the ends times" but nothing like any of the religions, particularly the Christiain religion views this, i.e., harvest etc.

It is my understanding that when humans were genetically engineered the DNA for survival was so strong in the primate counterpart that the off-world coungterpart (Light Being or soul part) had to struggle to overcome the survival instincts and it is that DNA characteristic for survival that has caused "Project Earth" to fall apart. The Great Flood (in Bible reference) was for all practical purposes an effort to annhilate human population, but it didn't work out that way...they were given a reprive, but nothing has changed...survival is still the most destructive force in a human being...wars, greed, over-population still exist. The next phase of human evolution will be spiritual in nature. Just how that will bear fruition I can't say. I do know that humans as we know them today will be radically different by the end of the next 95 years or less. But it doesn't mean total annhilation, it means change. Perhaps all those abductions were to recreate a new human being and the earth will once more be seeded, but with a higher evolved being.

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It is in nobodies interest that the human species is gone to the last one. So when I say "wipe out", I don't mean all of humanity, but most.

I wouldn't so much reject classic christian idea of end-times. While I think christians have wrongly understood that this is something that will unconditionally happen as it is describe (rather than being a warning of what the end would look like if we don't change), I think it is a very precise description of what is going to happen, though.
I think resurrection (where people get new "spiritual bodies"), is a picture of the Earth populated by these new hybrids they are making these days. Who will serves as more spiritual bodies, which spirits will be able to incarnate in the future, living in harmony with the rest of the universe, when aliens will be able to walk freely among us without secrecy. This is what I think kingdom of heaven is.
And also rapture...well, I think many will literally be taken aboard spaceships, if the worse comes, those who are deemed worthy to inherit this new Earth. Others will be left behind, just like in the time of flood. It may be a bold idea, but I think in the worst days they will literally be appearing in peoples rooms taking them one by one, selecting inhabitants of the new Earth. Just like the scriptures suggest.
But I'm not suggesting this has much to do with Christian faith, but rather, general spirituality. Those who are not dangerous for the new world regardless of what form of spirituality they belong to, will be selected.
A saint is a saint, whether Budhist, Christian, Jewish, New-ager, or non-religious (yet spiritual)


But I think this is not a fixed future, but rather a prophecy about the worst case scenario. Hopefully we will evolve without the need for any of this. But I seriously doubt it.

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« Reply #755 on: May 28th, 2008, 6:22pm »

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What to make of it? Could they be a glimpse; or a fleeting memory of a past life? Could it be a glimpse of a future time?
Was it a waking dream that lasts a second or two? I guess many what if's could be explored and many ideas could be elaborated. Paul [/quote]

Paul, interestingly enough, before I even finished reading your post, I saw this as a time loop, all the earth lives each person has had comes into the spiral of time and they experience all they have experienced on this earth. Again, I say, humans are entering into a new dimensional change...an evolutionary process that has always been inevitable. AND...none of us, no matter how "psychic" or "intuitive" can give a specific itinary or exactly how this will take place. It hasn't happened to the human race in the Adamic Cycle.
One cycle is ending and another beginning and it will be a bumpy ride, but it will have a glorious outcome...and yes, I think there will be simply a "new earth" on a higher plane above the one we are now in...layering.
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« Reply #756 on: May 28th, 2008, 6:33pm »

on May 28th, 2008, 09:59am, timetraveler wrote:
EBS, our physical world reality is more tenuous and intangible than we realize. Irwyn


Yes, Erwyn, I have had similar experiences. Loops in time are particularly frequent. I have had many such lessons on how to deal with the fragmentation of time that is now occurring and will escalate as the fifth world begins to take shape.

And to the person who talked about the "new bodies" and the "kingdom of heaven on earth"...this is what I am getting also. Yes, off-world beings of all levels and dimensions will interact more VISIBLY. This includes the souls of family and friends et al who have left their human bodies (some use the term ghost) as well. What people see as ghosts will be more common place and their energy more defined. A whole new world.
The Baha'i Writings have a lot to say about this.

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« Reply #757 on: May 28th, 2008, 8:38pm »

When I lay down at night to sleep, sometimes I will see a purple cloud or sometimes I will see a white cloud in my third eye. Then the cloud drifts away and I see the stars, then move out through the stars. Our true being is formless / pure consciousness. I personally know this to be true having had many experiences of visiting other dimensions, and talking to spirits, and other happenings…. One in particular told me that we are here to be challenged because there are no challenges in that realm. When one moves from the mundane he / she awakens the Kundalini energy that lays dormant at the base of the spine. When Kundalini is aroused it moves up the spine to the brain…... It can be a long process lasting half a lifetime or more for some…..but when it does we discover our true identity. My first experience with Kundalini was when it happened spontaneously when I was 32 years old, and after reading a spiritual book.

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« Reply #758 on: May 29th, 2008, 08:01am »

If you get bogged down in a quagmire of religions and belief systems and words and titles then you will never find the simple truth of the Creator, Creation and your Identity.

One time on the radio I listened to a talk by Aaron Copeland who I think is one of our greatest composers. I did not understand a word that he said because he used words and vocabulary that was so much above my level of understanding. The main purpose of communication is to have the audience understand your message. Intellectuals hide behind words and worship words rather than concepts. This is my opinion.


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« Reply #759 on: May 29th, 2008, 08:32am »

on May 29th, 2008, 08:01am, timetraveler wrote:
If you get bogged down in a quagmire of religions and belief systems and words and titles then you will never find the simple truth of the Creator, Creation and your Identity.

What do you think? Irwyn


Perhaps true, but without history and mythology (I put religions under this category too) , you can't really understand the politics of what is going on right now.

I don't think it's as simple as, we need to wake up and join the universe.
It's much more complicated, there are wars going on both in physical and spiritual realm over what is the Earth going to be used for, and what is going to become of humanity.
Things that we are not even a part of right now.
So, besides ones own spiritual growth there is also a question of who are you going to side with.

I mean for example, if a UFO landed, and another one besides it and a being came out of each one of them, presenting you with two different ideas about what they have in plan for humanity and Earth, which are exclusive and in conflict with each other, and were asking for your help. Which UFO would you enter? It's the oldest story on planet, the story of Enki and Enlil , and comes in many other shapes and forms. Neutrality is not really an option.
Even the light beings in NDE experiences mention that they are fighting wars right now for humans.

Would a seemingly pro-human agenda necessarily be positive from a higher-spiritual perspective?
It's isn't always as simple as good guys wanna help, bad guys wanna kill everyone.
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« Reply #760 on: May 29th, 2008, 10:14am »

I don't think it is a matter of the human race fixing its problems. History has proven already that the human race is suicidal. Were it not for the intervention of Angels and UFOs this planet would have been destroyed several times in the past. The more we advance in technology, the more dangerous we become with the possibility of genocide and the obliteration of the human race. I'm so happy that our technology is so primitive compared to UFOs that they can control and monitor and safeguard our weapons of mass destruction. Don't forget that we are part of the solar system and connected to the universe, therefore, the Angels and the UFOs have a vested interest in protecting us from self-destruction.

I have no faith in the human race. I put my faith in Angels and UFOs.


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« Reply #761 on: May 29th, 2008, 2:31pm »

on May 29th, 2008, 10:14am, timetraveler wrote:
I don't think it is a matter of the human race fixing its problems. History has proven already that the human race is suicidal. Were it not for the intervention of Angels and UFOs this planet would have been destroyed several times in the past. The more we advance in technology, the more dangerous we become with the possibility of genocide and the obliteration of the human race. I'm so happy that our technology is so primitive compared to UFOs that they can control and monitor and safeguard our weapons of mass destruction. Don't forget that we are part of the solar system and connected to the universe, therefore, the Angels and the UFOs have a vested interest in protecting us from self-destruction.

I have no faith in the human race. I put my faith in Angels and UFOs.


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Well I agree in all of what you have said, but I'm not sure how any of it relates to my previous post (if it was me you were responding to at all)
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« Reply #762 on: May 29th, 2008, 4:03pm »

Interesting story about president Eisenhower , I haven't heard that one yet. Though I take it with a grain of salt.

Sounds to me a little like a case of dumbing everything down to a good-alien-bad-alien story.

You mention abductions (which is I think so far the purest source of information about aliens, because most of these abductees are clueless and you have to read between the line, they aren't selling the whole story, just untied pieces),
we do indeed find that there are blonds working with grays, but we also find that there are grays working against grays, and blonds against other blonds and etc and etc.

It's isn't as naive as one species against the other. That wouldn't make much sense on a cosmic scale (one whole species being evil? that makes little sense)

Also, certain new-age schools would like the idea that
the good guys are never scary, never abduct people, never kill anyone, and offer free LSD for everyone to "shift vibrations of the world" etc.
while the other side stick needles into humans and is only centered around destroying mankind or making suncream out of our glands or whatever.

I think the truth is that both the "good guys" and the "bad guys" are abducting people, and both of them have scary grays, and it all depends on the human being whether he will experience fear or peace.

If you look at the nature of our "gods" from the past that took care of ancient civilisations, obviously, they weren't always pleasant, but they were still the good parents in the game.

You also mention human-centric views.
If a couple of blonds land and say, ok we give you power to unleash forgotten spiritual skills, knowledge and technology, and to free you from rigid moral laws of the ancient past, naturally many people would say, gee these are the good guys.
But how about consulting with the highest spiritual intelligences of the universe first, perhaps we are NOT suppose to have any of it at this point, perhaps we are dangerous, and the very ones that seem to free us are actually doing us wrong, by making us even more dangerous than we are.
In that case, an ugly gray saying, no technology, no skills, nothing until you grow up, nothing but needles and give us your fetuses so we can make more grays...naturally he would seem evil to most people.
But perhaps he is the one simply carrying out the cosmic plan for humankind

Remember it was the evil serpent who gave humans fruit of knowledge...
hey what's wrong with knowledge? Well same thing what's wrong with knowing about nuclear power in 40's.

Humans often feel that just because we are conscious beings we deserve to have everything that aliens have, but how about being humble for a second, and knowing your place in universe, as low in the dirt as it may be at the second.
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« Reply #763 on: May 29th, 2008, 4:37pm »

This is such an interesting discussion and it is obvious to me that a paradigm shift is in motion or in progress.

The times are a changing and I still believe that there is hope for humanity; as SOUL we are truly free from the boundaries and encumberances of the human body.

We do not die, but we just change vibrations; and the essence we call SOUL; will go back home, so to speak; until it chooses another lifetime, vocation, and perhaps even planet or life form to occupy to learn more about creation and the glorious aspects of it.

Nothing would exist without conciousness or concious recognition of it; and I mean that on an individual SOUL scale, not the collective conciousness of all SOUL's who are wading through the ethers of this world and the higher planes.

Imagine, when as SOUL we are ready for the lifting of the viel from this world to the next??

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« Reply #764 on: May 29th, 2008, 5:00pm »

I think there is some kind of a grade system for spirits (I like to us the term spirit , because In my terminology souls is a term tied to a specific incarnation while spirit transcends all incarnations), and that Earth is sort of like an elementary school, and that most of us begin here , and are trapped until we have enough wisdom to be able to live on other planets.
I'm talking about typical humans, but I think there are many cases where advanced spirits return to earth to help out even though they are way past earth's level
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