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« Reply #810 on: Jul 19th, 2008, 06:45am »

I think angels are real. Who believes in them? Anyone?
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« Reply #811 on: Jul 19th, 2008, 09:25am »

I believe in Angels and to me they are more real and enduring than human beings. They have saved my life many times and they are my teachers. Much of my new book," Other Dimensions"[available from Amazon and Barnes & Noble] speaks about Angels and defines them and explains them. Welcome aboard!


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« Reply #812 on: Jul 19th, 2008, 11:50am »

Wow, thta is inspiring and uplifting! Thankyou. WE folk here claim we are so spiritual, but me, I forget my lessons. THEY are here. We are never alone is what your saying huh?
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« Reply #813 on: Jul 19th, 2008, 12:55pm »

I have been fortunate enough to have seen the Angels as beautiful, intense sparks of blue or white electrical energy[in their natural state] or as projections of beautiful looking people. Sometimes they have appeared to me as magnificent and beautiful animals. They are my Guardian Angels and they are always with me to teach me or to protect me. I've written many stories about them in my book. In my book I state that they are really your guides and not the spirits of the dead.


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« Reply #814 on: Jul 20th, 2008, 12:51pm »

Yes, angels are another species of "off-worlders". Understanding what the "soul" is will assist everyone in understanding other life forms.

Angels are souls that have not taken on another form. Soul is of the Light Being species. They have the ability to enter bodies or containers. On earth the container is what we know as humans. When the container no longer exists, the Light Being or soul continues it's journey throughout all of existence.

Certain Light Beings (angel/souls) are assigned various tasks...some assigned to earth heaven, others to other planet heavens or similar dimensional places. Then some travel to all parts of the cosmos to be of assistance in whatever form "God" requires. God being the sum total of all of existence. Souls are a part of that Existence. My book also deals in part with the understanding my Guides have given me. The soul's who are roaming the cosmos, not tied to earth's heaven, are called Wanderers. There are "first time" souls on many 3-d planets. First-time souls are those beings of light that separate from the Energy God to continue in the creative process of the Cosmos. If anyone is interested in that portion of the book, I will share when it is totally completed.
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« Reply #815 on: Jul 20th, 2008, 1:09pm »

on Jul 20th, 2008, 12:51pm, LoriCordini wrote:
Yes, angels are another species of "off-worlders". Understanding what the "soul" is will assist everyone in understanding other life forms.

Angels are souls that have not taken on another form. Soul is of the Light Being species. They have the ability to enter bodies or containers. On earth the container is what we know as humans. When the container no longer exists, the Light Being or soul continues it's journey throughout all of existence.

Certain Light Beings (angel/souls) are assigned various tasks...some assigned to earth heaven, others to other planet heavens or similar dimensional places. Then some travel to all parts of the cosmos to be of assistance in whatever form "God" requires. God being the sum total of all of existence. Souls are a part of that Existence. My book also deals in part with the understanding my Guides have given me. The soul's who are roaming the cosmos, not tied to earth's heaven, are called Wanderers. There are "first time" souls on many 3-d planets. First-time souls are those beings of light that separate from the Energy God to continue in the creative process of the Cosmos. If anyone is interested in that portion of the book, I will share when it is totally completed.


From the Archetypic level, this is very accurate, LoriCordini. Thanks for sharing that with everyone. Seems you and timetraveler & Lorna Byrne have some good books about the bewinged Ones. I hope many become inspired by such truths as they may find in them, for they are with us and watching.
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« Reply #816 on: Jul 20th, 2008, 5:37pm »

Welcome FroaRoar! I beleive in angels too. More importantly they beleive in us even when we disregard them or think they arent there!!

Im a dummy, sometimes I want to do my own thing, leaving them behind and boy do I pay the price! Humans are like little children, we leaaarn our lessons hard!

TimeTraveler, I see the blue and white sparks. Sometimes a great swoosh of light! Im in great need of assistance and they say IM HERE NAT, STOP WORRYING!

Im at the doctors more than most, and I see them there. Or when I am in great thought and prayer.

Oh but we dont always listen. The distance I could go if I only gave in.

Love all the responses about angels. We need more visits more talks and more strenght from these guys!! You guys too! Good to talk of angels. Sending love to you all tonight!
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« Reply #817 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 05:54am »

Hi there
Its nice to find a thread going about angels, UFO's and psychic phenomenon on a UFO forum. Because I often wonder where my personal experiences actually fit in. I have had many UFO extraterrestrial contact encounters.

I have been floated out of my room at night, taken on board spacecraft, and had encounters with beautiful beings dressed in silver space suits. These encounters occurred after seeing boomerang shaped craft just prior to the experience.

I went looking for answers, as we all do when we begin to have strange experiences that the so called 'real world' cannot explain.

But I found to my dismay that when I described my experiences to those in the UFO circles they didn't really want to know. Simply because all of my experiences were POSITIVE ones.

I never once had a bad experience, thats not to say that I didn't feel overwhelmed. My confusion as to "Why" I was experiencing these things was great and would plague me all through my waking hours.

But never did I feel invaded, taken against my will, I never experienced any of the fear or terror that most people speak of and never once did I encounter anything or anyone that even looked like a gray.

These encounters had been occuring for about 18 mths before I spoke to anybody. And I knew absolutely nothing about UFO's or extraterrestrials before all of this began to happen.

So when I did talk to someone in the UFO circle, and was told that I couldn't possibly have had experiences that were so positive and non frightening, I felt humiliated and wished I'd never opened my mouth.

I was told that I was in 'denial' and that my experiences were probably so frightening I was given a screen memory. I had no idea what these people were talking about. Then they started telling me about the grays abductions, probes and other terrifying things, that I just couldn't get my head around.

The things that they were telling me were more "Alien' than my experiences. That was back in the nineties and continued for about five years on and off.

I then went on my own journey and yes I spoke to a lot of people over the years who's experiences have been less than positive. I've read a lot of stories told by a lot of people, about their trauma's, their abductions, their fears, and terror and I truly respect what they say and have empathy for what they feel.

However, I know in my heart of hearts that my experiences were real and they were positve and there were no screen memories. I know people don't want to hear positive UFO stories but what I dont know is "why".

Why do all extraterrestrial, UFO encounters have to be fearful and downright terrifying. Why are we only ever hearing about "The Grays". Why is everyone so caught up in the fear factor.

And finally why is it that if u mention UFO and positive in the same sentence, you get more ridicule than if you just announced to the world that your the 'Real Harry Potter".

Sorry If I got a little carried away here, I just would like to know that there are other people in this world who have had positive encounters. I kinda feel like the odd one out.

It seems that its okay to talk lovingly and positive about angels, guides, spirit guardians, but mention a positive contact with our E.T friends and you start raising some eyebrows.

Has anyone else ever experienced these things.? I'd love to hear from you.

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« Reply #818 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 07:12am »

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Welcome to the thread of Angels-UFO'S-Psychics

You will find inspirational and a good source of information & discussion at this forum and there are many here who are well versed and experienced in dealing with Angels-UFO's-Psychics.

Hope you will come back often and we have a wonderful group of people in this thread who post regularly and often, one can be teacher one day, and student the next day. It is a treasure trove of information on these three subjects.

Welcome and look forward to reading your posts.

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« Reply #819 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 09:49am »

Kaylin, I also have only had positive experiences with UFOs. I am posting excerpts from my book," other dimensions" for your perusal. Part one.

"Chapter Twenty-Six
Angels and UFOs

I've had numerous contacts and communications with Angels and UFOs. Yet, sometimes what I believe to be an ET exhibits the behavior and characteristics of an Angel. This makes it very difficult for me to properly “differentiate” between Angels and ETs. To illustrate my quandary, here is a recounting of some of the different types of contacts which I have had with Angels and ETs.
My first UFOs sighting was when I was about 14 years old which was 1944.
I was on the beach in Coney Island, Brooklyn and I looked up at the sky and I saw a “stationary” object that seemed to be gently “rocking” in the wind. It looked like a “dirigible” and it was black in color and it had what appeared to be a “gondola” underneath it and there were “ropes or cables” hanging from the gondola.
This “object” was no more than 500 feet above the ground and when I looked at the gondola I did not see any evidence of any “personnel” on board. I thought that this was a dirigible that had broken loose from its moorings in New Jersey and had drifted away.
I turned away from this “object” for several seconds and when I looked again it was “gone”. I thought it was “odd” that there was no one on board and that it could have “disappeared” so quickly. When I got older and became interested in UFOs I realize that what I had probably seen was a “mother ship” UFO.
When I was 19 years old I was in the backyard of my mother's house in Brooklyn and I was looking at the stars with an eight power pair of binoculars. I was looking at the “Big Dipper” in particular.
Then, I noticed what appeared to be one of the “stars” just “glide” across that constellation. When I followed it with the binoculars, it was an “amber colored” globe of “light” and although I looked at it with the binoculars I did not see any “structure” or solid material.
When I tried to "sense" the structure of that UFO, I felt that it was not a “spacecraft” in the orthodox sense but was rather a “living being” manifesting as a globe of “light”. I also "sensed" that this amber colored “light” was a “messenger” that was communicating with other UFOs.
When I was in my 20s, I had friends who were very interested in UFOs. I was interested both in “psychic development” and UFOs and they wanted me to go with them to stay at the home of the UFO author, George Hunt Williamson in Arizona, because he was “contacting” UFOs.
I had this quandary, and in the midst of this crisis of trying to choose whether to go with them or stay and develop psychically, I had the following experience;
I went to bed that night, but before I went to sleep I had the conviction that I was going to meet a UFO that night and make a “contact”. I went to sleep, and I had a “dream”.
In this “dream” I saw myself at a “train station” that was “elevated” above street level, and I was standing and watching the trains come in. I was “waiting” to meet someone from a UFO, and I was visualizing in my mind that he had to look “unusual”. I anticipated that “he” would have an “antenna” coming out of “his” head or be green and 12 feet tall. I was looking for somebody “abnormal looking”.
As I was looking for somebody abnormal I didn't notice a “man” walking toward me. I overlooked him because I was looking for somebody “weird” and here was this “normal” looking “man” walking toward me. When he was about two feet in front of me, I noticed “him” and he said to me, "Mr. Greif, I believe you're waiting for me".
I looked at “him” and I saw that he was about 5 foot 6 inches tall, had a British type mustache, a ruddy complexion, twinkling blue eyes, brown hair, and was wearing a salt-and-pepper business suit. He looked like a typical “Madison Avenue” advertising man. When he said, “I believe you're waiting for me”, I knew that this was my "contact".
We walked down the stairs to the street level, and when our feet touched the sidewalk, the whole scene “changed”. Instead of a modern street, it became a “biblical desert”.
Time was turned “back” to the time of the “Old Testament”, and I saw that this desert was a “plain” that “stretched out” in front of me. At the end of this plain was a “silver river”. We walked together “side-by-side” alongside this “river”.
As soon as this “scene” had changed, this “man” who had been about 5 foot 6 and about my height when I met “him”, started to “grow” until “he” became 6 feet tall and “his” clothes became the “biblical robes” of a prophet of the “Old Testament”. When I was walking next to “him”, I felt that I was in the presence of a being that was “God-like”. I was “awed” by the magnificent vibrations of this great being. I felt so humble and so respectful.
The being “talked” to me into my right ear, and I remember turning my head because “he” was taller than me and I wanted to hear what “he” was saying. I cannot remember the words, but I remember that “his” voice was like “pure liquid silver” and “his” words went through my ear and into my soul.
I was “told” at that time that I was given “teachings” that were intended for the future, that someday I would remember these words “when it was right for me to remember”, and that these words were impressed “deep into my soul”.
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Part 2.

"In July in the 1960s I was working at the Grand Central Post Office station in Manhattan as a clerk. I was hurrying to work and I knew that I must get to work on time or be “written up”. It was about 3:45 in the afternoon and it was a sunny day in July and the sidewalks were crowded with people.
I was south of Lexington Avenue and East 42nd Street and walking very briskly while trying to “dodge” the heavy pedestrian traffic. As I was looking straight ahead, I suddenly “felt” that a “portion” of my skull in the back of my head had been “removed” in an area of about 5 inches in diameter.
It “felt” to me as if I was having a “lobotomy operation” and I could feel the “coolness” inside my head and a loss of bone density in this area. This area of my head became “numb”. This feeling of “numbness” was very similar to the feeling that one experiences when a foot or an arm “falls asleep” due to the “pinching off” of a nerve.
Then I saw with amazing clarity, as if I had an “eye” in this “missing” area of my head, a “disk shaped” UFO which I “knew” to be about 250 miles above the Earth. This “craft” was gently rocking back and forth as if in a gentle “magnetic breeze”. I was able to “see” into the “interior” of the UFO whose dimensions I sensed to be about 18 feet in diameter by about nine feet high.
I saw three “men” inside this craft. They all appeared to be about 5 ft. 6 inches tall. They all had white skin; black hair, grey eyes, and they all looked “identical” in appearance. They were each dressed in a “grey colored mechanics type overall”, which had no buttons or zippers or any apparent method of opening or closing this garment.
My inner “feeling” was that these “men” were not physical persons or “life forms” as we know them but were manufactured artificial intelligence “constructions” that were “designed” to operate this UFO.
One “man” had his back to me and was seated on a raised “plastic type” molded chair. He was facing a “crescent shaped” keyboard that had rows of many different “colored lights” and he was not touching the “keys” with his hands but only passing his hands over the “keys” to activate the controls. This keyboard somehow reminded me of the “music organ at Radio City Music Hall”. I “knew” that this keyboard was the “operating panel” for this UFO.
Another “man” was walking from the left side of the UFO toward the “center”. The third “man” was bent over a central “support column” which ran from the ceiling to the floor and made me think of the “center axis of a gyroscope”.
He was peering into a black “binocular type sighting device”, which somehow reminded me of a “Norden bomb-sight”. I realized that he was watching me through this instrument.
Then, I saw what looked like a “steel cable” coming from the bottom of the UFO and connecting to the back of my head where I felt the “numbness”, and although I knew it was not a physical cable, I sensed that it was to show me that a “communication connection” had been made from this UFO to my brain.
The “cable” followed my every movement as I dodged the human traffic on the street, and I felt that I was “connected mentally” to that UFO.
During that day at work I tried to “believe” that this experience had really happened to me, but it was so unbelievable to me that my mind was inclined to dismiss it as a hallucination.
When I returned home that night after work, within a block of my house, I saw a brilliant “flash” of “silver light” streak from one end of the sky to the other like the blurred movement of a silver colored “metallic object”. This “silver light” traveled across the sky at a speed almost too fast for the eye to follow.
At this point I looked at my watch and I saw that the time was exactly 3:40 AM, “exactly” 12 hours after the UFO sighting experience. I took this to be a “confirmation” from the UFO that my experience had been real."
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"In 1973 my family and I traveled to Montréal Canada. During this trip, I experienced a “raising of consciousness” when I sat on the grass at the base of a gigantic “aluminum cross” that was located on a hill in Mount Royale. The wind vibrated this cross and the “high frequency sound”, which was produced, lifted me to a “spiritual ecstasy”.
During my visit to Montréal I visited a Spiritualist church and Reverend Rawls “ordained” me as a “minister” of the Spiritualist church. I was “amazed” that after knowing me for only two days she chose to ordain me as a minister. She asked me to lecture to her congregation, to which I agreed."
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Part4.

"In the “cosmic reality” which is the "big picture" our deeds are not as “important” as our thoughts. Our deeds are confined to this system of life and only have a value on a limited basis, and only within a limited time frame. But our thoughts and our communication can uplift and raise the level of understanding and consciousness of a person or of a group of people.
This was made apparent to me in the lecture which I did in Montreal at that Spiritualist church. My lecture subject was, "UFOs and Angel worlds". The audience was mostly French-Canadians who understood very little English.
I was speaking at a “high level” of inspiration, and as I lectured I thought to myself, why am I speaking on such a high level when most of the audience cannot understand English?
At this time I looked at some of the faces in the audience and my attention was drawn to two “men” who were seated in the center row. When I looked at their eyes, I “knew” that they were, “not of this world”. There was the calmness and centered look of Angels in their eyes, and I knew they were Angels or UFO beings. I realized that they were “raising the frequency” of my lecture in order to “raise” the audience to a “higher level”.
After the lecture while I was seated in the rear of the church these two “men” came over to me and they smiled at me. One of these “men” said, "That was a fine lecture, Mr. Greif, "and the other “man” said, "You are the first "real" human being that I have met." At that time I felt honored as if I had just been “awarded” a cosmic, “Academy Award”.
Were these two “men” the same “men” who appeared as Angels to Lot in the bible? This was an entirely different type of Angel or UFO or ET experience, I had apparently contacted a higher intelligence entity in a “humanoid” form.
My most recent UFO “sighting” occurred in the summer of 2004 in the sky above Port St. Lucie, Florida. I was walking with my wife Connie about 7:30 in the morning and I looked up at the sky and I saw a “copper” colored, “pear shaped” UFO that was “stationary”. Regretfully, I did not have my camera with me."

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« Reply #823 on: Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:16am »

Timetraveler, There is somthing about your description of train dream that keeps poking and waking my mind. It feels uncomfortable or sad. Ive had that dream I think. Or you just woke me to it. As I write flashes of it run across my mind. Flashes of dream. dream retrieval. Oh I wish my mind were a fax machine! I want to keep it, feel it, explain it and most of all understand.
Im still seing my dream and trains. Wich have to do with aliens, but dont know how. I havent seen that dream in awhile, thankyou. Im sorry if I am not being clear. Its just that I find it strange to come here and see a dream I have, ya know?
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« Reply #824 on: Aug 2nd, 2008, 05:40am »

Kaylyn, I too have had nothing but positive exchanges with all forms of beings. Actually, however, there was one species out there that one could probably consider negative, but only because we don't always understand their culture. Which brings me to the facts of creation. All of existence must be in a state of harmony at all times. (Positive/Negative energy) Negative doesn't have to be "evil" or unpleasant. There is so much to share, but you are on the right path to understanding.

Those that are groupees in the UFO phenomenon usually don't have a clue about what is really going on because they enter into the experience out of fear and heresay.

Fear gets everyone's attention and those who focus on "negative" experiences are more often than not control freaks. I fear can be instilled in folks, they are easier to control.

This is a wonderful thread to learn the truth and reality of the phenomenon through a spiritual approach, one that is not encompassed in fear and self-serving agendas.
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