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« Reply #915 on: Jul 21st, 2009, 3:22pm »

Timetraveler;

What I am referring to is that this film I linked a reference to; concludes that most religions, especially that of the Christ Story actually comes from the Stars... the SUN God, and how masses of people can be influenced by these stories.

It highlights the other side of the coin so to speak.

It is not intenteded to confuse, but actually give people a look at another perspective. Angels are found in many religious texts. I believe that too, angels are ET's or related to ET's presence, which may even be referenced in other layers of reality.

Is religion tied to money and power over the masses? It is... where it sometimes takes away the ability of critical thinking from individuals.

We ought to question and examine all things. The picture of the future is not looking good, unless man changes the way of looking at things.

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« Reply #916 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 10:52am »

EBS: awesome link. thank you. It is an eye-opener. I think it is important to examine the other side of the coin. To better understand ancient teachings that have something truly powerful to share, but first we need to as a society graduate from our beginning step of "initiation" which as the Dogon would put it is called the "giri so" or "word at face value".

So, honestly, I don't know if it's the ones that wrote and rewrote these texts that were so uncomprehending, or us in our reading and present day interpretations which view things from a completely different mind set.

To look at the other side of the coin is imperative in my view to the expansion of consciousness that can then learn to take on more abstract ideas.
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« Reply #917 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 2:25pm »

on Jul 21st, 2009, 12:58pm, timetraveler wrote:
To EBS: You are giving me a forum on confusion and a morass of titles and words.

Irwyn, I believe it is important to look at past trends and angels from religious texts, in trying to see the connection to the other realms. Often, the old religious texts are part of history. For example, the drawings inside hallways and chambers of the pyramids, show a resemblance to Star People. Perhaps the artisits who drew these things, had it right....and the interpretations down through the millennium have been misguided or incorrect. To have a broad understanding, or at least, speaking from my perspective, I believe it is important to look at ideas of both modern and historical man, as we now, are also humans, and think like humans.
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My search is for understanding, not to spend lifetimes following and researching man-made religions and false deities.


My search is for understanding too, and in my search, I feel important information can be found in man made religions to link the past to the present and to the future. Quote:


The Angels and Angelic UFOs are controlling the evolution of the present Adam race. We cannot possibly understand the Creator Spirit and the fact that It has no singular or separate identity but is the combination of everything and All. All of creation is the DNA and the "seed" of the Creator Spirit. Therefore, the Son of God reference should be more correctly understood as the "seed" of the Creator Spirit and not as a particular human being.



Based on the reference to the film, Zeitgeist, the authors feel that the SON of God, may actually have been a misinterpretation to the SUN GOD.

I don't know what the right or wrong interpretations are or are not. Man made religions, depending on the viewpoint of another person, can be felt as a right or wrong perspective.

I know people who claim they have connections to angels, are guided by angelic beings, and know of one person in particular, who quit a job, followed a dreamlike vision, went to location in Africa, as guided by the dream-angel, found the area to be exactly like that in the dream, and then found out, it was her calling so to speak, and now has a business doing angelic readings for people at psychic fairs. Based on testimonials of her clients, she seems to be on the right track, for her own unfoldment. Her interpretation of how she saw her dream has been right for her. What is a right and what is a wrong interpetation of symbols? It matters perhaps to the eye of the beholder. Sometimes it may be a sort of a lighthouse, guiding people from point A to point B. And of course, perhaps it may not be. Quote:
All religions are man-made based on wrongful interpretation of symbols and languages transcribed by well meaning but uncomprehending scribes. As a result they created the structured religions. If we cannot comprehend the dimensions and power of Angels and Angelic UFOs then how can we understand the Creator Spirit?

What do you think? Irwyn


To me, understanding, as per say, is a work in progress. I don't know if I will ever truly understand the mystery of creation, or understand the complete role of angels or angelic beings, but searching for the truth, or at least parts of the truth, is a passion I plan on following, as long as I can. Perception of truth is subject to change, with new experiences that may be around the next turn on the journey of life.

I respect your viewpoints, but please know that I am not trying to confuse you or anyone. I am referencing things that I feel may be of value to others who are looking for the same answers that I am.

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« Reply #918 on: Jul 22nd, 2009, 2:47pm »

on Jul 22nd, 2009, 10:52am, bonegatherer wrote:
EBS: awesome link. thank you. It is an eye-opener. I think it is important to examine the other side of the coin. To better understand ancient teachings that have something truly powerful to share, but first we need to as a society graduate from our beginning step of "initiation" which as the Dogon would put it is called the "giri so" or "word at face value".

I agree.

Someone(s) did a great deal of research and did a wonderful job in examining the link between religion, money and power. I have always like to look at many viewpoints on a subject, as often, others will have viewpoints that are about things that I would not even have thought about, but may have information that shows me that I am on the wrong side of thinking about something. To me, searching and seeking answers to many things, religions, UFO, Angel, angelic beings, ET, geographic sciences, astronomy, have all been very interesting things to learn about. Zeitgeist http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197&hl=en did a wonderful job in looking at the SUN GOD and the notion of how it may have lead to the "Son of God" reference that have been used for many messiahs, in older religions and traditional Judaic-Christianity. Quote:
So, honestly, I don't know if it's the ones that wrote and rewrote these texts that were so uncomprehending, or us in our reading and present day interpretations which view things from a completely different mind set.

To look at the other side of the coin is imperative in my view to the expansion of consciousness that can then learn to take on more abstract ideas.


Bonegatherer, I agree too, that the other side of the coin is imperative to the expansion of consciousness.

Sometimes finding answers to the those tantalizing questions are difficult to ascertain, but persistence and never giving up sometimes leads to finding those gold nuggets of information needed toward finding an answer to a big question.

This has been a great thread with some great discussions.

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« Reply #919 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 1:53pm »

It is not my intention to ridicule or criticize the beliefs of any of the members of this very intelligent forum. I agree that we have all of eternity to learn. I have been visited and had contacts with Angels and UFOs and ETs. Have also been attacked by a demonic creature from another dimensional world. I trust my personal experiences more than the limited interpretations of scholars and texts. Albert Einstein gave us the process of converting matter into energy but he never learned the process of how to convert and shape and create physical universes and sentient beings from pure energy into matter. He also never understood how to "time travel" into different universes and worlds. The Angels and the UFOs are teaching us and expanding our knowledge of all subjects especially technology but there is some knowledge that they will not give us because we would constitute a danger to the Universe.



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« Reply #920 on: Jul 23rd, 2009, 2:39pm »

on Jul 23rd, 2009, 1:53pm, timetraveler wrote:
It is not my intention to ridicule or criticize the beliefs of any of the members of this very intelligent forum. I agree that we have all of eternity to learn. I have been visited and had contacts with Angels and UFOs and ETs. Have also been attacked by a demonic creature from another dimensional world. I trust my personal experiences more than the limited interpretations of scholars and texts. For instance, the church has perverted and bastardized an awesome process into a title for their central figure of their religion. The process being prostituted is Christ which is actually a shortened reference to how the Creater Spirit transforms and converts physical universes, galaxies, solar systems and physical worlds and physical beings from pure energy. This process is called "crystallization" and to me it is a miraculous process. Albert Einstein gave us the process of converting matter into energy but he never learned the process of how to convert pure energy into matter.

When you learn to think above the limitations of the 5 percent of the human brain than you have expanded your consciousness and you realize that mankind is only two branches higher than the monkey on the tree of evolution.


What do you think? Irwyn


Hello Irwyn!

As usual, an intriguing and thought-provoking post.
I too recognize that there as many beliefs or concepts about what it all means as there are individualilized sparks of God-hood dwelling in matter! We will all have our own opinions and thoughts on it all, but we won't find out the whole truth until we leave this plane for the next wink

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« Reply #921 on: Jul 24th, 2009, 2:57pm »

Allow me to share with you an excerpt from my book,"Other Dimensions".

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“Cosmic consciousness” experience occurs when Angels, “hold you in their hands” and for a few seconds in time raise your vibrations and transport you to sublime ecstasy awareness. This is not to be confused with an “astral projection” experience in which the subject by his or her own control has made the spirit leave the body and travel to a different location.
In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.
I had what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being “pursued” by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape.
I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic “courtyard” completely different from the other backyards. The ground consisted of black and white marble squares set in a “checkerboard” pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard I saw a black wrought iron fence at least 12 feet high.
I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle “breeze” blowing on me. As my “dream figure” stood there, the “breeze” became a little stronger and more so until it was a “wind”, and then it became the strong wind of a “hurricane”.
I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious “wind”. The “dream figure” asked itself, “where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream”. Then the strong “wind” knocked the “dream figure” down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then, I was seized in the grip of a powerful “magnetic” force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an “elevator” toward the sky.
At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the “dream figure” being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a “higher self” overseeing this entire experience.
As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my soul was being pulled out of my body and that this would mean my physical death. I extended my “dream figure’s” arms in the dream, as well as my actual physical arms, in an attempt to stop this “magnetic” pull.
When the “dream figure” was halfway between my bed and the sky an “ecstatic” feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and soul. This feeling was a feeling of “pure love” such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of “love” transcended any earthly love. This “love” was so beautiful and “pure” that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my soul “home” to its source.
At that instant I reached up with my arms, in the dream and in my physical body, to draw toward this beautiful “ecstasy”. At that time I had no thought of anything on this Earth, not my mother, father, family, or my friends. I was only aware of the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force.
Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch closing in the hallway. Instantly the “dream figure” stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an “elevator” until it reentered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy “safe door” closing and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the “dream figure” had “joined” with the physical body and I was a “whole” person again.
During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly, the tingling sensation began to wear off and I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements.
I was never the same after this experience and my “value system” changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on Earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality. When you have had the most personal experience of a “cosmic consciousness” you are privileged to be raised to a higher level of understanding. You cannot attain this understanding unless you personally have had a “cosmic consciousness”, or similar type of experience. When I had this “cosmic consciousness” experience I felt that I was finally going "home". At no time during this “supreme” experience did I see or feel any person or “human like” figure. What I experienced was a feeling of “total love” of a quality and purity that is unimaginable and indescribable. This feeling of love transcended my mind, my emotions and my belief system.
For a few seconds in time I was “one” with the universe. I was able to know and understand “everything”. I was “connected” to the totality of our existence. When my spirit “returned” into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much more intense and “real” than the physical reality of my life. The euphoric feeling which I had was that I was experiencing a state of “reality” which transcended my physical life and which made my actual life seem unreal.
What I experienced was the “ultimate reality” and it “inspired” me with the hope and belief that existence and the universe were beautiful and intelligently controlled and orchestrated by higher intelligences beyond my knowledge and understanding. I realized that I was an important and loved part of this matrix.
What I had experienced was not a classical "OOB" [“out of body”] experience. I call it a "cosmic consciousness" experience. The difference is that a classical "OOB" experience is a form of "astral projection", which usually occurs either when you are close to death, "near death experience" [NDE] or when you will have created an "OOB" experience by intense meditation or mental discipline. These types of “OOB” experiences are two-dimensional, whereas if you recall, in my cosmic consciousness experience I was aware of three separate consciousness levels.
There is a vast difference between my experience, and "OOB"experiences. It is also interesting that the experimental "subjects" used in project "Stargate" all suffered residual damage to their minds, emotions, and in some cases to their physical bodies. Certain "travelers" involved in this project, "came back" and reported seeing UFOs and other astral creatures which frightened them.
I do not recommend that anybody attempt to mind control or manipulate their mind or consciousness to attempt a controlled "OOB" experience. This will bring you into other dimensions of astral worlds which have some weird forms. I hope that this clarifies the difference between a "cosmic consciousness" experience and various forms of "OOB"experiences.
Certain Holy men and Shamans are able to create a type of "bi-location" where they can actually be in two physical places at the same time. This is a type of controlled "OOB" experience or "astral projection". This is different from being "taken over" by Angels, and "raised” to an Angel world for a few seconds. I believe that humans are presently being “conditioned” by Angels to be more psychic and to develop their mental and telepathic abilities in order to raise their level of understanding.

Thank you. Irwyn
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« Reply #922 on: Jul 26th, 2009, 3:50pm »

on May 14th, 2009, 07:43am, Easternbluestar wrote:
Irwyn, I believe I know what you mean here. Our identity is needed to function on the physical plane, so we can as EGO identify each other collectively, but as we shed the body, our SOUL or SOURCE, what ever name we call it, is a sum total of all experiences it may have had, in this lifetime, other lifetimes, and other existences. For example, there seems to be no boundaries that separate the physical world with the astral world... perhaps the boundary line is conscousness itself(?).

Exactly what I have received. There are no boundaries to the possibilities of existence and all are linked into and within the ONE. The only boundaries set are our own mental limitations.







It is sometimes amazing, and astonishing also, to see how the media can act as a great hypnotist to control the world. By raising fear of a crashing economy, it took place. The so called H1N1 (Swine) flu created fear, yet the seasonal flu is more deadly per capita.

There was a person in my end of the world, known as the "Hermit of Gully Lake". He was a person that did not want to go to war and take the life of another human being, so he allgedly jumped the troop trains coming to Halifax in the early 1940s. He headed inland in the bush, and lived deep in the wilderness, up to the time he died which was about 5 years ago +/-. He never knew the war was over. He did not know what year it was (until someone told him). He was not worrying about the news of yesterday, today, or tomorrow. He lived in nature, in a small hollowed out shack built partly into a windfall from trees, and lived that way till a very old man. The province even built him a nice camp along the lake (with his old age pension checks, which he never ever cashed a single one) as he had no need for money. He truly lived off the land. This fellow had no medical care, very little interaction with other human beings, yet, he survived to be a very old man. 87 years +/- He used his own skills to surive. It must have been brutal, as winters in the area where he lived could be very cold and deep snow. Here is a link to a Youtube video about his life.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3MdscvQ_Uo&feature=related

His life was much different than most of the population, but he survived.

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« Reply #923 on: Jul 26th, 2009, 3:54pm »

For a few seconds in time I was “one” with the universe. I was able to know and understand “everything”. I was “connected” to the totality of our existence. When my spirit “returned” into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much more intense and “real” than the physical reality of my life. The euphoric feeling which I had was that I was experiencing a state of “reality” which transcended my physical life and which made my actual life seem unreal.

Erwyn, how beautifully stated...and yes, I too have had this same experience many times. Thank you so much for sharing!!
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« Reply #924 on: Jul 26th, 2009, 4:02pm »

[quote author=timetraveler link=board=angels&num=1050353322&start=903#60 date=1242746567]The 9/11 terrorist attack is another frightening mystery. The CIA and the FBI had prior knowledge of the terrorist attack but their supervisors told them to stop investigating and to do other research without notifying other agencies.

Irwyn, two years prior to the event I "remoted viewed" several people at a small airport discussing the "annihilation" of humans. Two "looked" Middle Eastern. I was "hiding" behind several boxes. Although in astral state, I was horrifically filled with fear and as I peered from behind the boxes I saw "something or someone" that filled me with so much fear I cannot remember who or what it was. I do know it was not of this world and I felt if I didn't retreat back to my body I would be detected by this being.

I don't know any other way to express this, because I don't know "how I know" but the entire event of 9/11 was not orchestrated by human intelligence...no human has that ability to numerologically create the details involved in the planning...now the carrying out...anyone with a "cause" would have been available...much like any of the high profile assassinations...those with the power to plan can find just about anyone to carry it out.
Take for instance the asssassinations of Moscone and Milk in San Francisco in 1978. I was sitting in the "viper's den" when it was carried out and quickly removed to another "program" by my handlers. Knew too much but remembered little!
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« Reply #925 on: Jul 26th, 2009, 4:08pm »

Sometimes finding answers to the those tantalizing questions are difficult to ascertain, but persistence and never giving up sometimes leads to finding those gold nuggets of information needed toward finding an answer to a big question.

The answers aren't as important as the questions. Searching is an eternal quest and in the quiet of our hearts our souls reach out and understanding comes. My Guides have said that "Memory" or REmemory/remembering is the key to understanding.
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« Reply #926 on: Jul 27th, 2009, 09:05am »

It is interesting to realize how much we are connected with the Angels and how we are never really alone. The ancient Bibles were written in code and were purposely designed to be decoded by computers in the computer age. This is similar to the crop circles which also were intended to be decoded by computers. Thank God there is a higher intelligence guiding us instead of the moronic and almost subhuman leaders of our world.


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PS my computer crashed a week ago and I am temporarily using my wife's computer while I try to piece together my missing data.

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on Jul 27th, 2009, 09:05am, timetraveler wrote:
PS my computer crashed a week ago and I am temporarily using my wife's computer while I try to piece together my missing data.


Hi Irwyn

That happened to us a few months back. We now have an external plug in drive to save all the information we want to save on, so that if the new computer crashes we won't lose the data.

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« Reply #928 on: Jul 27th, 2009, 10:37am »

I submit this proof of the psychiatrist Dr. Jung’s theory of “collective consciousness. Let me share with you some excerpts from my book,” Other Dimensions”.

“In 1958 I was meditating when I "saw” the Atlantis past live visualization, and I "knew" that this was a “flash back” of 150,000 years ago. I saw myself walking along the top of a gigantic sea wall, which I "knew" was the Atlantis sea wall.
I was about five feet seven inches tall, my chest was bare and completely hairless, my hair was black, and my skin was an abnormally white color like alabaster, not tanned or apparently affected by the sun's rays. Around my neck I wore a "magnesium" type disk that was five inches in diameter. The disk was engraved with a picture of twin mountain peaks, and a star was positioned directly above. These were the, “Twin Peaks of Poseid”, and the star represented Polaris.
We were not humans, and our bodies were “artificially” created. We were similar to androids, and we had no blood and no pulse except for an electrical field radiation. We needed no food or water to sustain us. Our sustenance was directly transmitted by the disks, which we wore around our necks and which were charged from the energy stored in the "hot stones" in the lab. Whenever we needed more energy, we would levitate up to the mountain lab and Regulus would place our disks among the "hot stones" until they had absorbed enough energy.
As a “genetic engineer”, I was involved with my team of scientists in subjecting the Atlans to experimentation by using “crystal light devices” to alter their genetic structure.
Although our intention was to create a hybrid race combining the best qualities of man and animal, we created mutant monstrosities of man as composites of beast and fish and bird. The evidence of our “genetic manipulations” can be found in the medical files of hospitals, which have discovered appendages in embryos and newborn babies, such as the wing of a bird, or the webbed foot or hand of an amphibian or the fur of an animal etc. etc. These are “genetic mutations” based on the genetic memory of the different species of life forms contained within the genetic code of Man.
Other teams of our scientists were conducting experiments to control and alter the weather conditions of the Earth and to adjust the magnetic balance of the Earth's gravity field. Regulus and I and some other scientists in our expedition, were opposed to these weather experiments as we feared that these experiments could destroy the stability of the planet.
At this time there were severe earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as well as fierce weather storms. These bore witness to us that the weather experiments were becoming dangerous to the Earth's gravitational field stability.
One day, I received a telepathic message, which I believed came from Regulus, to return to the laboratory to prepare for an evacuation. The preparation involved allowing myself to be put into a deep state of “suspended animation” for the voyage in our spaceship and then to be awakened and revitalized when the journey was completed.
I proceeded to the laboratory, which required me to “levitate” myself up the sheer side of the mountain. When I arrived I was seized by some of my fellow space scientists who were conducting weather experiments.
I was informed that our group leader, Regulus, had been destroyed by those opposing him and that the insurgents had decided to eliminate any witnesses who could testify that they had done experiments on the Earth's magnetic fields in order to enslave the planet and its inhabitants.
I was loyal to Regulus, and I refused to join these rebels. As a result my “energy disk” was removed, and I was transported to an isolated desert area far away from the laboratory, where I was left to “die”. While at this remote place, I saw the spaceships of our people coming to pick up the survivors of our group and although I tried to signal them, I was not noticed.
As time passed I witnessed tremendous disturbances in the Earth's magnetic field, and I became aware of a great deal of radiation present. I realized that the imminent destruction of Atlantis was caused by the improper tuning of the “crystal light” machines used in the “weather-control” experiments.
In the end days I saw a large section of land mass “pulled” from the Earth and projected with tremendous force into the sky. I was made aware that this huge mass of land would become the Moon, formed from the land mass and debris involved in the great destruction of Atlantis.
I also "knew" that the Earth at that time tilted approximately seven to ten degrees off its normal axis and was wobbling in an erratic and dangerous manner.
In time I came to understand that the Moon was created to balance and stabilize the “wobbling” planet Earth so it would not be torn apart and destroyed

.In the 1970s I was present at a meeting with scientists and psychics, which involved a joint project, combining the "Bio-Energetics Institute of New York City” and the "Silva Mind Control Institute". The purpose of this project was to research and document psychic and electromagnetic waves that emanated from psychics when they were, “in the power”.
As I was present in this room we were awaiting the arrival of a very famous psychic named Ingo Swann who was invited to be part of this group. I had never met this famous psychic and I was looking forward to his arrival.
When he made his appearance and as soon as I saw him I was overcome with a strong desire to destroy him as if he was an enemy spaceship and as if I was directing all of my “laser weapons” at him. I sensed at that time that he was from Sirius and that I was from Orion and that we were deadly enemies.
At this point a woman psychic sitting next to me said to me, “stop what you're doing, your face is turning purple".
I have since realized that I reacted to Ingo Swann in this way because my “collective consciousness” memory “recognized” him as one of the “rogue” scientists who had betrayed our mission and caused my death in Atlantis. It seems as if we each have a “collective consciousness” that follows us as we reincarnate.
Ingo Swann declined to work with our research group and I heard later on that he was subsequently working with the Department of Defense as a psychic resource and that he may have been involved in the controversial project, “Stargate”.
I had told the director who was Dr. John Pierrakis that if Ingo Swann was involved I could not work with him.
The Bioenergetics and Silva mind control experiments were done in the United Nations building using their television equipment. We were able to record on videotapes the magnetic and electrical emanations transmitted by psychics when they were attuned and, "in the power".
However, we were not supposed to be doing these experiments in the UN building and in order to continue our work we listed our experiments as “meditation” groups.
Unfortunately, this allowed the Russians to attend our experimental sessions. We were successful, but our work was dealt a severe blow, when our best videotapes were stolen by the KGB and sent back to the University of Leningrad in Russia to add to their extensive psychic research.”

What do you think? Irwyn
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Life here on the physical earth, is thus no more than a schoolroom for SOUL. Observations that I have seen, especially watching family members who have been stricken with diseases like Alzhiemer's disease etc;, what happenned to the bustling personality that we knew as Mom, as Mom inlaw, as Uncle Robie, and so on? MRI's and CT Scans will show that the central processing unit, that we call the brain, has shrunk, or is replaced with "fluid pools" where there was once brain tissue to cause synapses or memory impulses to travel about the cellular structure of the brain as we know it; to take place. People like Grandmother, now Mom etc., who once look at us straight eye to eye contact; then would tell us their deepest concerns. Body language would also tell us they were concerned in what they would say, when looking straight at me or us when referring to ther family members. Now, there is a defiant stare of nothingness. If the brain deteriorates, one would think that the personality that once made the person we recognized as Mom, or Mom in-law, or Uncle Robbie, as it pertains to my own family members, would suggest that the personality we knew by name no longer exists, in the way we knew them.

For the ones above still alive, (who is left today, only Mom) they are merely a physical shadow of the person she once was. For the ones that have crossed over, they are now free from the encumbrances of a body ravaged by disease.

My grandmother defied what we were being "told" about the disease of dementia, mostly widely known as Alzheimer's Disease. From what we were told, she no longer had cognitive memory because the brain tissue that once held it, is no longer around; it was taken away by disease. Sometimes, they would remember things from way back toward their childhoods, for what seemed like brief moments.

When my grandmother lay dying at the end stages of Alzheimer's disease, a very strange thing happened. For the last few years of her life, she was seemingly far away from recognizing anyone, who was her family member(s) and she had no recognizant of any memory or event in the last twenty plus years. She would not be able to recognize a child by name in the last five years of her life.

She stared at the walls, seemingly unable to acknowledge anything, could not remember her husband (my grandfather) etc. In fact, the last two years of her life, she could not seemingly mumble an audible word that anyone could recognize with any clarity. Of course, that was expected, when her brain was only about 50% in relative size at the end of the illness.

Yet, one strange thing happened... just minutes before she passed on. She looked at Mom, my Mom's sisters, called them each by name (and did so correctly), advised them that her Mother and long passed sister was in the room beside her, waiting for her, and she told them all, "she loved them" and took one last breath, and that was the end of her physical life story. Grandma could see her Mom and sister apparently, but to the rest of the family in the room, there was nobody visible or present, based on what their five senses could see, hear, or touch.

For several years prior to that date, she could seemingly recognize no particular person apart from one another; not a family member, not caregiver or distinguish a family member from a stranger, based on body language, or any words that she could mumble.

Slowly and silently, she sank into the mysterious world of dementia. This of course took place when Mom was still healthy, not the recent years where she too is now sinking away into the world of dementia.

No doctor could answer our question to why Grandma could recognize my Mom, and her sisters just moments before she died, yet, in the five years +/- prior to that, she could not seemingly or knowingly distinguish either of them including Mom.

There is so much one could research, so much a person would love to have the time and see every corner of the earth, but as far as survivability goes, if we can stay freely encumbered from the ravages of disease, injury or not be caught up in perpetual poverty, we all have but a few to about half a dozen decades as mature adults to go and see the world, and all that is unique in it. It would take many physical body lifetimes to have a good look at our world, experience the cultures, the diversity, the beauty and the experience of life from different viewpoints. For example, if a person at age 20, leaves their parents home, and has only 50 years of life left (passed on at age 70), that means they have 18,250 days +/- to take in every experience they could ever wonder or know about.

But if we were to accept reincarnation into this equation, this would increase the probability of being able to do just that. As my friend Seeker has often mentioned, we are going from Homo Sapien to Homo Luminous; and what a beautiful way of expressinging ourselves, from what we were, to where we are, and to where we will become.

I have often wondered, when my grandmother, when my uncles mentioned about seeing "people" in their presence that we could not physically see, was it the ravages of their disease causing hallucinations as some would call it; or were they seeing other SOUL's, that they could only see, because of where their conciousness was cognizant of allowing them to see? Despite being told that my grandmother would never recognize her children again, how did she do so just moments before she passed to the other side? Was it just coincidence? After talking to other people who have had family members go through a similar experience, this is perhaps more common that we realize. If so, it would or could change how we perceive certain diseases.

Could the origins of our personality actually lay outside of our brain? Could our personality actually be filtered through the brain, much like a radio receiver will air the audio or radio waves to the listener?

I had a spiritualist once tell me that "in their opinion" the SOUL is always there, exists forever, and our body is only nothing more than an appendage to SOUL. Instead of our personality developing at the moment of birth onwards between the cradle to the grave, what if as SOUL, we had to "learn to use a new body" each time we incarnated into the world, much like a computer has an empty hard-drive, but has to be programmed and data input into it, before it can start calculating data.

If there was an intelligent Creator we call by name, including GOD, why would it allow evil to pillage the world? Why would it allow people to starve? Why would it allow people to injure and kill others? Would a loving God allow this? Why would it allow so many to be poor and so few to be rich and wealthy? If looking at life as a singular life from cradle to the grave, it would seem pretty bleak, eh?

If looking at EARTH as just a schoolroom, and perhaps the ability of SOUL to be able to reincarnate across many lifetimes, allow SOUL to preceive many relalities, and perhaps many planes of existence, then we could look at life a bit differently, a bit like a book, written with many pages, many experiences and many opportunities.

These are just questions I ask. I don't know the answers, and will not know these answers by the time I leave this world. But I do like to ask questions and try to find some parts of the answers. Life perhaps is the biggest mystery of all. If it all ended at the grave, what would the point of even being born have? If we had no consciousness, anything and all we know and perceive would not even exist.

Consciousness perhaps is the medium to allows us to know we exist. Do we ultimately program our own consciousness? Or did some other entity create that medium for us to become aware of it? In order for us to survive on the physical world, we have to consume other lifeforms to keep our own life form energized. Our body is a collective organization of cells, materials and mass. We can be sure, that these same materials made up other parts of other bodies, of other materials in the past perhaps. Look at how ground can transform into a vegetable we consume. We truly are made of the materials of the earth.

Keeping this in thought, could minerals have a conciousness? We consume minerals in our food supply, and this biological vessel we call our body does keep our SOUL housed to experience the physical plane?

There have been so many wonderful ideas shared in this forum.

What is time? Is it nothing more than a reference point to remember one event in a linear format from another event? Where does our lifetime fit in with the scheme of things from the moment of existence to the moment of universal destruction? Or was existance always here, no beginning, no end?

So many questions, and how the heck can we ever get all the answers?

We can all look at a same picture, but the way we describe it will probably have as many variations as there are people to who are describing it.

Food for thought.... and of course as you would know it, I am hungry right now. Time for some food.

EBS

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