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« Reply #945 on: Aug 26th, 2009, 7:12pm »

Soul is the embodiment of your little piece of humanity and your connection to the rest of the human equation. The inner self knows instinctively your place in nature and your understanding of what is your life is within the circle. The problem is realization that one cannot always access the gate to the soul without great introspection and realization of your human spirit and the melding of all spiritualistic lives of every living thing. Human nature tells us we are not one with all. That we are individuals unto ourselves. Logic tells us that's not true, that we are surely part of the whole. Just my 2 cents in this discussion!!

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« Reply #946 on: Aug 27th, 2009, 10:17am »

It is so exciting and uplifting to engage in these conversations with persons who seek answers and understanding. Allow me the opportunity to simplify our searches.
There are no coincidences, accidents, unplanned events, or occurrences in existence. Every single thing or happening has a learning purpose. We are not the only beings who are learning. The "Creator Spirit" is also learning by using the "mirrors" of Its creations. Everything in existence is "connected". There are no separate islands.
We all have "Guardian Angels" who are responsible for our teachings and who decide when we live or die and into which type of world we incarnate. We do not choose our parents or the environmental conditions of our incarnations because we are not that wise.
The physical planet Earth is the most difficult school for Angels. We are the "Fallen Angels" referred to in biblical texts. This does not mean that we have committed crimes and are being punished, but it means that we have descended to lower-frequency physical worlds to learn what we cannot learn in the higher frequency angelic worlds.
Edgar Cayce was the greatest American psychic but his Angels had a problem with him. He was the son of a religious preacher and his conscious mind was full of religious teachings. His Angels in order to make him a spokesperson for them had to put him into an unconscious trance in order to bypass his religious teachings and to make him a clear "Channel". That is why most of the great inventions and revelations come during the unconscious state or dream state, or meditation state when you are in contact with your subconscious mind.
The conscious mind is a stupid mind. It behaves like a computer using input and output. It only knows what you input into it and it operates on a conscious mind logic, which cannot understand or comprehend the higher teachings of the cosmos.
EBS: your pain comes from your mind. You are using your conscious mind and your logical reasoning mindset to try to raise your consciousness level. This causes pressure and pain. The remedy for this is to learn to live in two worlds at the same time. One world being the outside physical world and the other worlds connected to your higher frequency subconscious and intuitive and psychic mind.
PS; although I have been in contact many times with Angels and UFOs and have even been allowed to see inside their UFOs spacecraft, to the best of my knowledge and belief, I have never been abducted by UFOs.

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« Reply #947 on: Aug 27th, 2009, 11:48am »

EBS: the following are excerpts from my book," Other Dimensions",[which is available from Amazon and Barnes & Noble].
Regarding Ingo Swann. He came back into my life from a life 150,000 years ago.

"I have had many “flashback” memories of past lives. Some of my past lives “recalls,” involve “other dimensional” incarnations. I believe that I was a “visitor” ET and an “eyewitness” to the destruction of Atlantis.
In this “flashback” I was an ET who came from the constellation Orion with a group of 39 other "scientists" and we were indirectly responsible for the destruction of Atlantis. I was aware that I was an “alien” creature and that I was witnessing a scene in Atlantis. I "knew" that I had landed from a spaceship with thirty-nine other beings like myself and that we came from Orion.
We were space scientists, and we had come to Atlantis to perform experiments with life forms and nature and to study the natural laws that governed the Earth. The leader of our group was named for his home base, which was the star Regulus. He stayed constantly in the laboratory that we had constructed on top of one of the “Twin Peaks of Poseid”.
In that life I was a "genetic engineer", and I did "experiments" on the humanoids by "transmuting" the genetic DNA contained within the human genome of birds, fish and animals. The “experiments” that I performed are still within the genetic coding of the human being, and sometimes a human embryo is born with a claw hand of a bird or with the fur of an animal. Medical doctors do not understand this, and in their ignorance label this as, “genetic mutations". However, these "genetic mutations" are really somehow embedded in the racial "memory" of the human genomes. Therefore, we have all lived many past lives in different shapes and forms, and in different worlds and dimensions.
In 1958 I was meditating when I "saw” the Atlantis past live visualization, and I "knew" that this was a “flash back” of 150,000 years ago.
As a “genetic engineer”, I was involved with my team of scientists in subjecting the Atlans to experimentation by using “crystal light devices” to alter their genetic structure.
Although our intention was to create a hybrid race combining the best qualities of man and animal, we created mutant monstrosities of man as composites of beast and fish and bird. The evidence of our “genetic manipulations” can be found in the medical files of hospitals, which have discovered appendages in embryos and newborn babies, such as the wing of a bird, or the webbed foot or hand of an amphibian or the fur of an animal etc. etc. These are “genetic mutations” based on the genetic memory of the different species of life forms contained within the genetic code of Man.
Other teams of our scientists were conducting experiments to control and alter the weather conditions of the Earth and to adjust the magnetic balance of the Earth's gravity field. Regulus and I and some other scientists in our expedition, were opposed to these weather experiments, as we feared that these experiments could destroy the stability of the planet.
At this time there were severe earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as well as fierce weather storms. These bore witness to us that the weather experiments were becoming dangerous to the Earth's gravitational field stability.
One day, I received a telepathic message, which I believed came from Regulus, to return to the laboratory to prepare for an evacuation. The preparation involved allowing myself to be put into a deep state of “suspended animation” for the voyage in our spaceship and then to be awakened and revitalized when the journey was completed.
I proceeded to the laboratory, which required me to “levitate” myself up the sheer side of the mountain. When I arrived I was seized by some of my fellow space scientists who were conducting weather experiments.
I was informed that our group leader, Regulus, had been destroyed by those opposing him and that the insurgents had decided to eliminate any witnesses who could testify that they had done experiments on the Earth's magnetic fields in order to enslave the planet and its inhabitants.
I was loyal to Regulus, and I refused to join these rebels. As a result my “energy disk” was removed, and I was transported to an isolated desert area far away from the laboratory, where I was left to “die”. While at this remote place, I saw the spaceships of our people coming to pick up the survivors of our group and although I tried to signal them, I was not noticed.
As time passed I witnessed tremendous disturbances in the Earth's magnetic field, and I became aware of a great deal of radiation present. I realized that the imminent destruction of Atlantis was caused by the improper tuning of the “crystal light” machines used in the “weather-control” experiments.
In the end days I saw a large section of land mass “pulled” from the Earth and projected with tremendous force into the sky. I was made aware that this huge mass of land would become the Moon, formed from the land mass and debris involved in the great destruction of Atlantis.
I also "knew" that the Earth at that time tilted approximately seven to ten degrees off its normal axis and was wobbling in an erratic and dangerous manner.
In time I came to understand that the Moon was created to balance and stabilize the “wobbling” planet Earth so it would not be torn apart and destroyed. I wonder if there is any connection between this past life experience and the fable of, "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves?"
In the 1970s I was present at a meeting with scientists and psychics, which involved a joint project, combining the "Bio-Energetics Institute of New York City” and the "Silva Mind Control Institute". The purpose of this project was to research and document psychic and electromagnetic waves that emanated from psychics when they were, “in the power”.
As I was present in this room we were awaiting the arrival of a very famous psychic named Ingo Swann who was invited to be part of this group. I had never met this famous psychic and I was looking forward to his arrival.
When he made his appearance and as soon as I saw him I was overcome with a strong desire to destroy him as if he was an enemy spaceship and as if I was directing all of my “laser weapons” at him. I sensed at that time that he was from Sirius and that I was from Orion and that we were deadly enemies.
At this point a woman psychic sitting next to me said to me, “stop what you're doing, your face is turning purple".
I have since realized that I reacted to Ingo Swann in this way because my “collective consciousness” memory “recognized” him as one of the “rogue” scientists who had betrayed our mission and caused my death in Atlantis. It seems as if we each have a “collective consciousness” that follows us as we reincarnate.
Ingo Swann declined to work with our research group and I heard later on that he was subsequently working with the Department of Defense as a psychic resource and that he may have been involved in the controversial project, “Stargate”.
I had told the director who was Dr. John Pierrakkis that if Ingo Swann was involved I could not work with him.
The Bioenergetics and Silva mind control experiments were done in the United Nations building using their television equipment. We were able to record on videotapes the magnetic and electrical emanations transmitted by psychics when they were attuned and, "in the power".
However, we were not supposed to be doing these experiments in the UN building and in order to continue our work we listed our experiments as “meditation” groups.
Unfortunately, this allowed the Russians to attend our experimental sessions. We were successful, but our work was dealt a severe blow, when our best videotapes were stolen by the KGB and sent back to the University of Leningrad in Russia to add to their extensive psychic research."

What do you think? Irwyn
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« Reply #948 on: Aug 27th, 2009, 2:38pm »

on Jul 28th, 2009, 12:39pm, Easternbluestar wrote:
Hi Lori,

When you mentioned about "being one with the universe" was that like a Near Death Experience or some other similar type of experience?

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Oops, forgive my memory lapse, but did I write this? rolleyes

I might add however, that in 1969 I did have a kind of near-death experience...as a "medium" I experienced death through the eyes of a man in a car accident. This was my first "medium" experience and it was just that, "feeling at one with everything--a feeling of wholeness with all of existence." That is I connected mind to mind with a man who was involved in a car accident.
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« Reply #949 on: Aug 27th, 2009, 6:25pm »

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Carol, Alla-u-Abha! (God is Most Glorious) Our daughter spoke this word at 4 months of age!


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When such a young child exhibits knowledge or a gift beyond the ordinary perception of one so young it has been my experience they are bringing in past life memories. I sang at the age of 4 months... not words, but entire melodies!... a most unusual feat. It is also quite possible your daughter is a highly evolved soul entering in along with many others of her ilk to assist humankind in moving through the ascension process at this pirvitol time in earth's history. Either way, you are blessed to have her, and she is blessed to have such an aware and insightful mother smiley

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I am too tired too proof this, so excuse any mistakes. I am struggling with many physical issues...working on my book at long last, make greeting cards for cancer patients (I am a 17 month survivor) and expecting my first grandson the end of September and needleworking like crazy for other babies and children. I also make gifts of posters and cards with spiritual quotes...so I keep busy in spite of my being in a wheelchair because of curved spine and body-muscle weakness due to "experiments" done on me in 1970s, so anyway, just a 'splaination of what makes me tic and who I am....getting to know each other....you know!


Your light and your energy precede you. I am honored to make your acquaintance smiley

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« Reply #950 on: Aug 29th, 2009, 12:46pm »

Edwyn, your recollection is indeed sharp and totally accepted as a true event! How the scientific world is so slow to comprehend these outstanding events boggles my mind! As a traveler I have many memoris of other planets and occupying other forms of beings. What a wonderful thing Existence! Also the inability to accept off world interconnectivity also is amazing!

Yes, Carol..our lovely daughter is a very advanced soul who is about to bring into this world of human experience a baby human called Uriah. I had the bounty and blessing of visioning and talking with him before her first sonogram indicating he was a male energy child. He presented as a 7 month old child and the love he radiated was overpowering.

Everyone, have you experienced astral travel on a physical, not dream state, plane? I have had some very powerful experiences of disorientation and confusion coming out of a nap or deep night sleep. I hesitate to mention this to my doctor..not because he wouldn't understand, he is quite spiritual and accepting of my many experiences, but I don't want anyone to think that my first explanation is astral travel over a physical symptom, as I have so many issues on this level.
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« Reply #951 on: Aug 29th, 2009, 3:23pm »

Many years ago I went to a women psychologist, who had come to the United States from Italy, for a therapy session and I happened to mention that I had seen UFOs. She became very upset and she told me not to leave as she was going to prescribe Haldan and other psychotic medicines. She then informed me that she was calling an ambulance and recommended that I be confined to a mental hospital.
Although I've had good relationships with several psychiatrists who were my clients I have usually found that the most difficult clients to "read" were psychologists. They all had a mindset which was part of their pschological training which defied common sense and emotional empathy. I believe that most of them were mentally unstable and a danger to their patients.
In one particular psychic reading which I did for a woman psychologist she annoyed me with her mind control attitude and this made me angry. When I become angry my psychic powers become stronger and more focused. I then told her that she was a hidden schizophrenic with homicidal tendencies. She calmly replied to this utterance by stating," isn't that true of everybody? I rest my case.



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« Reply #952 on: Aug 30th, 2009, 12:43pm »

I feel so honored and fortunate to read your intelligent postings. Please allow me to express my beliefs and advice. If you have read some of the ancient books of India you will see that in the past there were times when horrible wars occurred between the Angels and higher beings and tribes of humans. In these wars laser and atomic weapons were used, more powerful than the weapons which we have now. Therefore, do not make a fairy tale at the level of a child to try to explain existence. Do not think that in higher worlds there is no conflict or disturbances. There are so many worlds that exist that it is beyond our ability to comprehend. Do not think with the mind of a human animal but try to raise your consciousness level to think like an Angel.
The Adam human race was not put on this planet to be comfortable, but rather to learn using the polarity of positive and negative experiences. When you die you do not take the memory of your lifetime with you but the wisdoms and understandings of your life's experiences are integrated into your consciousness and soul.
You do not choose what world you will incarnate or reincarnate, or what shape or form you will be given as your body. If I could choose I would not have come to this planet, or I would've reincarnated as Bill Gates. Let us learn to think on a higher level and not bring down our intelligence to that of a mammal.
Do you think that the Earth is being purified and raised and that the humans will be reincarnated here again as a higher and more intelligent species? We do not know if this planet Earth is too contaminated or radioactive to be used as a school for the next hybrid human race. When a planet or solar system has finished its purpose as a school for souls it is then "sanitized" with the gamma rays of a "supernova" and then it is converted into pure energy with a "black hole". [We have at least one "black hole"in our galaxy].
We cannot think with the mindset of logical animal thinking. In order to understand the big picture 2+2 does not equal four. We need to learn to think in a type of quantum mechanics logic, above and beyond the evolutionary type thinking of science. Yet, once you have raised your consciousness level it becomes so simple and easy to distinguish reality from emotional wishful thinking and to climb higher than the scientific and philosophical and religious limited thinking allows.
When you are ready to discard everything you have ever been taught and to make your direct connection with the inspired teachings of your Angels, then you are ready to raise your consciousness level.



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« Reply #953 on: Sep 16th, 2009, 1:31pm »

I try not to be judgmental or act superior. When I was in public school I was very bored with the level of teaching. I could not concentrate so I escaped the room by looking out of the window. My mother kept getting notes from my teachers that I kept staring out of the windows and that my mind seemed to be 1,000,000 miles away. I've had this situation all of my life. For some reason I was selected to be taught directly from Angels and UFOs and ET's. I have a very low tolerance for the level of teaching of this world. I am guessing that the reason I have been used as a medium of communication between the Angel worlds and this world is because of my past lives recalls of living in other dimensional worlds as a nonphysical being. I will share with you an excerpt from my book,"Other Dimensions" which was my highest and most elevated consciousness experience in this life:

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A “Cosmic consciousness” experience occurs when Angels, “hold you in their hands” and for a few seconds in time raise your vibrations and transport you to sublime ecstasy awareness. This is not to be confused with an “astral projection” experience in which the subject by his or her own control has made the spirit leave the body and travel to a different location.
In 1956 I just recovered from the flu, and I felt very weak and tired. At this time I was visiting my mother and she noticed my weak condition. She advised me to go lie down in a bed upstairs. I lay down on the bed upstairs, and I had the following dream or vision experience.
I had what started out as a dream in which I saw myself being “pursued” by an unknown invisible force and terrified, I knew I must escape.
I was running through backyards and back alleys and each time I came to a fence, I would climb over it and find myself in another backyard. Finally I found myself in a gigantic “courtyard” completely different from the other backyards. The ground consisted of black and white marble squares set in a “checkerboard” pattern and at a great distance ahead on the far side of the courtyard I saw a black wrought iron fence at least 12 feet high.
I started to walk across this courtyard, wondering how I was going to surmount the high fence at the other end. As I was almost in the center of this courtyard, I became aware of a gentle “breeze” blowing on me. As my “dream figure” stood there, the “breeze” became a little stronger and more so until it was a “wind”, and then it became the strong wind of a “hurricane”.
I stood there confused not knowing the origin of this mysterious “wind”. The “dream figure” asked itself, “where did this wind come from? This is not part of my dream”. Then the strong “wind” knocked the “dream figure” down and I lay on my back in the dream unable to move. Then, I was seized in the grip of a powerful “magnetic” force and I was slowly being pulled upward as if I was going up in an “elevator” toward the sky.
At this point I became aware of three separate states of consciousness. I saw the “dream figure” being drawn up into the sky, I saw my physical body lying on the bed, and I was aware of a “higher self” overseeing this entire experience.
As I was resisting the pull of this magnetic force, I felt that my soul was being pulled out of my body and that this would mean my physical death. I extended my “dream figure’s” arms in the dream, as well as my actual physical arms, in an attempt to stop this “magnetic” pull.
When the “dream figure” was halfway between my bed and the sky an “ecstatic” feeling came over me, and permeated my entire body, mind, and soul. This feeling was a feeling of “pure love” such as I have never experienced before or since. This feeling of “love” transcended any earthly love. This “love” was so beautiful and “pure” that my total being realized that this force taking me up into the sky was the Creator taking my soul “home” to its source.
At that instant I reached up with my arms, in the dream and in my physical body, to draw toward this beautiful “ecstasy”. At that time I had no thought of anything on this Earth, not my mother, father, family, or my friends. I was only aware of the overpowering joy of yielding to this supreme force.
Then, abruptly, there was the sharp metallic sound of a door latch closing in the hallway. Instantly the “dream figure” stopped in midair. Then slowly and at the same rate of ascent, the dream figure began to descend as if it was an “elevator” until it reentered the physical body. When the dream figure reentered my physical body, I heard very clearly a metallic sound like a heavy “safe door” closing and this sound seem to come from the back of my head. I then realized that the “dream figure” had “joined” with the physical body and I was a “whole” person again.
During this entire experience, my entire physical body was paralyzed with a numbing and tingling sensation which is similar to when your foot "falls asleep". Slowly, the tingling sensation began to wear off and I was able to wake and resume my normal physical movements.
I was never the same after this experience and my “value system” changed and I realized that there are many dimensions of reality and that living on Earth in a physical body was only one dimension of reality. When you have had the most personal experience of a “cosmic consciousness” you are privileged to be raised to a higher level of understanding. You cannot attain this understanding unless you personally have had a “cosmic consciousness”, or similar type of experience. When I had this “cosmic consciousness” experience I felt that I was finally going "home". At no time during this “supreme” experience did I see or feel any person or “human like” figure. What I experienced was a feeling of “total love” of a quality and purity that is unimaginable and indescribable. This feeling of love transcended my mind, my emotions and my belief system.
For a few seconds in time I was “one” with the universe. I was able to know and understand “everything”. I was “connected” to the totality of our existence. When my spirit “returned” into my physical body the reality of what I experienced was so much more intense and “real” than the physical reality of my life. The euphoric feeling which I had was that I was experiencing a state of “reality” which transcended my physical life and which made my actual life seem unreal.
What I experienced was the “ultimate reality” and it “inspired” me with the hope and belief that existence and the universe were beautiful and intelligently controlled and orchestrated by higher intelligences beyond my knowledge and understanding. I realized that I was an important and loved part of this matrix.
What I had experienced was not a classical "OOB" [“out of body”] experience. I call it a "cosmic consciousness" experience. The difference is that a classical "OOB" experience is a form of "astral projection", which usually occurs either when you are close to death, "near death experience" [NDE] or when you will have created an "OOB" experience by intense meditation or mental discipline. These types of “OOB” experiences are two-dimensional, whereas if you recall, in my cosmic consciousness experience I was aware of three separate consciousness levels.
There is a vast difference between my experience, and "OOB"experiences. It is also interesting that the experimental "subjects" used in project "Stargate" all suffered residual damage to their minds, emotions, and in some cases to their physical bodies. Certain "travelers" involved in this project, "came back" and reported seeing UFOs and other astral creatures which frightened them.
I do not recommend that anybody attempt to mind control or manipulate their mind or consciousness to attempt a controlled "OOB" experience. This will bring you into other dimensions of astral worlds which have some weird forms. I hope that this clarifies the difference between a "cosmic consciousness" experience and various forms of "OOB"experiences.
Certain Holy men and Shamans are able to create a type of "bi-location" where they can actually be in two physical places at the same time. This is a type of controlled "OOB" experience or "astral projection". This is different from being "taken over" by Angels, and "raised” to an Angel world for a few seconds. I believe that humans are presently being “conditioned” by Angels to be more psychic and to develop their mental and telepathic abilities in order to raise their level of understanding."

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« Reply #954 on: Sep 27th, 2009, 9:13pm »

I think the human mind is like a parachute, it works best when open, when you are truly open you may feel different.
could they be our ancient ancestors? and some of us have the signal of human astral connection right now, and some still search?
is this possible?
will some never recieve?
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on Sep 27th, 2009, 9:13pm, MOKSHA wrote:
I think the human mind is like a parachute, it works best when open, when you are truly open you may feel different.
could they be our ancient ancestors? and some of us have the signal of human astral connection right now, and some still search?
is this possible?
will some never recieve?
I wonder
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Human origins are indeed from the stars...hybrids through off-world DNA engineering. Some remember, others do not. Some, like myself and a few here, are "Wanderers". Our souls have been in other forms, on other planets before coming on the earth journey.

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« Reply #956 on: Sep 28th, 2009, 06:03am »

Thank you Lori, for your insite, I feel its right-on, I also feel something BIG is going to happen, dont know what but I feel I'm to mediate something, do you feel that you have some duty?
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« Reply #957 on: Sep 28th, 2009, 9:27pm »

Something BIG is indeed afoot, and has been for some time. The next phase of human evolution is in process. Humanity, as immature as it may seem at time, is coming of age. This next phase is a spiritual one and will be a gigantic leap, including intergalactic readiness for contact. This spiritual evolutionary process entails a dynamic shift in physical awareness. The best way to explain this aspect is if you consider that the human body had to die before its soul was released and then was in communication with other souls in the dimension often referred to as "heaven". What humans call "ghosts" are residents of that dimension and occasionally the two dimensions "bump into each other."
As humans progress in their spiritual understanding more encounters will occur and the sharing of both worlds or dimensions will be common place.
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« Reply #958 on: Sep 29th, 2009, 1:24pm »

I was able to find this key piece of missing information on the Internet. Please allow me to put all the pieces together regarding the impending 2012 catastrophe. However, I do not wish to alarm anybody or to create a panic. This posting is a combination of science and psychic information and I believe it to be correct. The US TV show entitled History and subtitled Universe supplied parts of the missing pieces to this puzzle.
In one of their televised shows they reported that two separate professional Airline pilots on two different occasions observed large UFOs estimated to be 1 mile to 2 miles in size over the English channel. I believe that these are the"Noah's Arks" which will be used in the 2012 Exodus to evacuate the human race.
On December 21, 2012 our solar system will be directly aligned in a straight line with this massive "black hole" in the center of our galaxy and the gamma rays will supercharge our sun causing it to become a "super nova".This will cause our sun to collapse in on itself resulting in creating a "black hole".
The UFOs are aware of this and that is why they have created a second hybrid version of the "Adam" race to be relocated to a different physical world.
Trust in the Angels to save and preserve the human race!
The following is an excerpt from this article:

"Scientists detect black hole at center of Milky Way
Galaxy.
American and German astronomers have detected and confirmed that there is a 'super-massive' black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy. It is approximately 27,000 light years from Earth, and four million times bigger than the Sun. Scientists say it plays a significant role in forming all galaxies.

The 16-year study was performed using two telescopes located in Chile. They discovered it by tracking the movement of over two dozen separate stars. The study will be published next month in The Astrophysical Journal.

Sources

Matt Schofield "Massive black hole confirmed at heart of our galaxy". Kansas City Star, December 10, 2008
Pallab Ghosh "Black hole confirmed in Milky Way". BBC News Online, December 9, 200"


What do you think? Irwyn
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xx Re: Angels, UFOs, and Psychic
« Reply #959 on: Sep 29th, 2009, 4:47pm »

Irwyn,

I don’t know what 2012 entails. But I do think that if a supermassive black hole in the center of the universe is beaming out gamma rays, the effects of such an event would be felt long before and long after a single date…a span of 24 hrs… in a human calendar. I like a lot what you post, but this particular scenario doesn’t resonate at all with me.

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