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« Reply #720 on: Dec 7th, 2011, 03:05am »

on Nov 29th, 2011, 2:14pm, drwu23 wrote:
I hear ya..but the pole was taken by other professional guitarists. Go figure....

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Mehhhh, what kind/genre of guitarists? Country, Blues, Jazz, and Rock are all down with complimenting each other, but many in the Flamingo/Classical crowd believe that only theirs don't stink if you know what I mean?

Doesn't matter though. Any list demoting Blackmore to number 50 ............... so where's Billy Gibbons? 47?

Some of these new guys do have some talent, but there are qualifiers. Digital, do it for you amps, screw controlling your own feedback. And very few have true formal training, and that really shows. While their music often sounds good, it doesn't hold together. Arrangement and timing are everything to any of Rock's heavier genres. Four to six people does not an orchestra make, but the great ones pulled it off. Of course many of the old timers had keyboard players, and this is where lack of formal training really hurts. I learned to play piano and organ some. Trust me, guitars are much, much easier.

Especially when you're packing that C3 Hammond into the local bar. grin
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« Reply #721 on: Dec 7th, 2011, 03:08am »

on Nov 28th, 2011, 5:21pm, MOKSHA wrote:
Zappa, would play this very small place 3 times a night, south side of Chicago, he was good, but no way, better then, Schenkler, Roth,
I also got issues with the ranking, Gilmore at 14?
any way thanks for the stuff
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Frank Zappa's fans in Europe were responsible for the writing of Deep Purple's most famous song. The guy was everywhere it seems.
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« Reply #722 on: Dec 7th, 2011, 03:17am »

on Nov 24th, 2011, 9:44pm, drwu23 wrote:
I like Blackmore and of course own the Deep Purple lp/cd's..never really got into Rainbow. I'll ck them out again.
I also picked up a couple of the Night Project cd's when they came out because I like folk with an edge.
While I think he's very good I just don't think he has that intangible something that Clapton, Beck, and Page have.

Saw these guys in '74 and listened to them a lot in college. Best fusion band ever imho. Some think he is one of the greatest if not the single greatest technician/ guitar player. I don' t t hink anyone plays any faster and cleaner....but fusion is not everyone's cup of tea.





Blackmore's problem was that he was always having to second fiddle Jon Lord's organ. And, as we all know, Blackmore is a very competitive individual.

I can't quite make out that album cover guy, but it looks like you're apeing John McLaughlin there? If so, I concur. Among living guitar players, he would have to be one of the best. I've never really gone for any of that THE BEST stuff where guitarists are concerned. Too many intangibles with that instrument. Nobody but Hendrix taught Jimi to play, but he changed the way everybody plays the guitar ever since. That's one example of extreme intangibles. But I could name a thousand more.
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« Reply #723 on: Dec 7th, 2011, 03:21am »

Somebody must have Barney Millered our local DJ tonight. Here's one example of the archive dives he's been pulling all evening:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5lJkuPtWDQ

It's going to be a drag when his shift ends.
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« Reply #724 on: Dec 7th, 2011, 04:26am »

Blackmore never really liked playing second fiddle to anyone this is why due to his ego he destroyed everything in his path.
I admire him for his exceptional talent and that`s it, PowerKnight wink
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« Reply #725 on: Dec 7th, 2011, 10:48am »

Very true. Ritchie is known as a first class jerk with an ego the size of Everest. He does possess far more talent than he's ever displayed though. The man is downright anal about bringing every note down hard and flat before bending it. If he'd ever lightened up, something he's probably incapable of, he could have been more impressive yet.

And still wouldn't have been able to hold place with Lord. grin

They toured a lot way back when, and I went to any concert available within 400 miles in those days, so I caught those guys a lot. The competition between the two was obvious, intense, but did give the band one heck of a one two punch.

I even got to see the idiot's pyrotechnic display at the California Jam. Pretty cool actually, hard to say why ABC got so upset. Probably dealing with Blackmore one too many times I guess.

By the way, I only heard some of that Blackmore's Night stuff about a year ago. WTF is up with that? A major Valium overdose?

I really miss the type of concerts we had over here back in the 1960s and 1970s. Often just a major party outdoors for a couple of days. At Bull's Island, the crowd was 350,000 strong. When it was almost over, my ride found me to tell me he'd sold his car so he could get a bunch of "really good acid" he'd found. Gee, home was 1200 miles away. I just said "Donny, you'd best have saved me a bunch, because you know how much I hate to hitch hike." He hadn't natch. I was so messed up already I probably would've landed in the OD tent anyway.

This chick with an old Ford van offered me a ride home, so all ended well. Except, she took me to her home. In Philadelphia. I lived in Virginia. Hitching rides down the Eastern Seaboard was genuinely nerve wracking in those days. I can't even begin to count the number of festivals that wound up that crazy, and worse. Yeah, they were always a really great time.
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« Reply #726 on: Dec 8th, 2011, 12:10pm »

Blackmore`s Night...a valium overdose grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin very funny description, I suppose you could put it like that after being in the loudest live band Purple...Japan 72 recorded the loudest decibal rating for a band in history. It rendered a couple of people unconscious in the crowd!
This has been overtaken with The Who who I think still hold the record back in 76ish. I like Blackmore`s Night and I think it was the right direction for him to pursue rather than going through the motions in a stale sounding hard rock/metal band which he has bascially been there done it got the t.shirt so to speak. PowerKnight
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« Reply #727 on: Dec 10th, 2011, 10:18pm »

Been exploring metal/death metal music lately.... never been into it except for Sabbath. BTW.. I don't consider Ac/DC, Deep Purple, Led Zep , etc as metal.
I'm referring to bands like:
Metallica
Megadeth
Slayer
Anthrax
Sepultura
Celtic frost
Iron Maiden
etc..

Any suggestions about who you think are really good?
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« Reply #728 on: Dec 11th, 2011, 6:36pm »

Yeah, Panterra is missing. There's some real talent in that genre, but I've always felt that those bands suffer from a lack of formal training. As a result their music doesn't hold together like it should. Otherwise it's good though. Formal training has taken a hike pretty much these days it seems.

You're right about Purple and Zep. They were part of the old Blues and Classical Rock genre. Not much left of the Blues Rock sound, and almost nobody experiments in Classical like that today. I'm not sure where ACDC fits in the scheme of things. Never got into them.

Hasn't the industry grouped all of those genres into Progressive Rock now? Seems like they turned that one into a catch-all category.

Who does vocals for Sabbath now? Ozzy was never a great singer, but it's strange how bands don't sound right after a change of singers. Look at the hit Heep took after Byron. Of course that was a major downgrade in my opinion. But Sabbath never sounded right, even when Gillain was with them, and he has a killer set of pipes. Kind of like Hagar replacing Roth. Certain styles fit certain bands better? Rock is funny that way. Vocals don't interchange well.
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« Reply #729 on: Dec 12th, 2011, 1:19pm »

The only band from that list drwu23 I like are Iron Maiden and so I can`t really help you on that one. Hard rock/metal like all genre`s of music has suffered over the years...why...simple it`s all been done before. It`s now very very difficult to try and be original and different and prove something yet remain special.
There are a few more recent artist`s and bands I like in the HR/HM genre, which is my favourite form of music along with mostly progressive rock from the 70s, but compared to the past it`s quite limited. The thing is ice what tends to happen when a singer departs from an original line up and tends to be the frontman/singer and talisman of the band it often leads to a downward spiral.
Very rare does it work when a replacement of sorts comes into the fold, I mean Sabbath had about six singers after Osbourne left, it got ridiculous to be honest and that was a change in other personnel as well.
Never hit on death metal it`s all been done before, Black Sabbath the original death/doom metal band of them all. A recommendation...try this Iced Earth/The Glorious Burden including The Gettysburg Trilogy...progressive speed metal at it`s best...a modern metal masterpiece. Long Live Rock n Roll...Long Live Ronnie James DIO, PowerKnight wink
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« Reply #730 on: Dec 13th, 2011, 04:59am »

Dio was great, all the way back to the Elf days.

That's part of it PK, but not all. A lot might have to do with the innovative nature of vocals in rock. Many vocalists would be impossible to copy/replace. And of course some you wouldn't want to copy. But in the case of Van Halen, their music actually improved with Hagar, he was a better front man as well, but it just wasn't the same. Maybe we just get conditioned to the sound?

Hard to say. In rock this even extends to instruments. Nobody could ever duplicate the depth of sound Hendrix could milk from a guitar, but Stevie Ray Vaughn could do a fair job. In rare cases some people make never having a lesson pay. But not often. The guy Wu was talking about, John McLaughlin would be really tough as well. Some people excel at live performance, there has been quite a few of these over the years, and nobody should really try and replace them in my opinion. The band should try anew.

I agree about many of the best licks already having been done. Often in several ways. But I'm open to new music that's good. I do see a huge problem with many of these people lacking formal training though. There is a lot of talent out there, but arrangements often are found wanting.

Yeah, long live rock and roll, but death to top 40s radio. I've had my fill of that. The best will survive, the pulp can go away for all I care. BTW, you're getting a better selection over there right now. Have to hunt for it here. The RIAA bit is more subtle, but still active. Smart musicians avoid them.
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« Reply #731 on: Dec 13th, 2011, 11:18am »

Temple of the Dog "Hunger Strike"
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« Reply #732 on: Dec 13th, 2011, 2:33pm »

Van Halen without Roth was the end of the band ice, sure they continued with success but the seeds had been planted without Hagar. Diamond Dave was the dogs bollocks not just a brilliant frontman but a brilliant singer which has been overlooked due to his wildman image and persona.
It never sounded the same without him, they actually have reformed original line up bar Michael Anthony/Bass, his son Wolfgang took over the bass slot! Hagar wasn`t a bad replacement but more a musician than a frontman singer.
Van Halen`s best work was all the Dave Lee Roth albums up to 1984 and the final album. Ronnie James DIO...yes the Elf years and his early years before Elf was class, he is my all time hero and legend, I met him twice not that long before he sadly passed away. Untouchable, I am yet to hear anyone who could match him in the vocal stakes, live he probably did it better than stuDio, the acid test. Every genre of music leaves their marker, Ronnie James DIO was the marker and benchmark not just in the HR/HM genre but he could cut it with anyone.
Just checkout his ballads he sung, because he wasn`t a mainstream artist most have never heard of him, there was no one like him and I really doubt he will ever be beaten, RIP the legend of Ronnie James DIO, fond memories PowerKnight cry
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« Reply #733 on: Dec 13th, 2011, 3:14pm »

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« Reply #734 on: Dec 15th, 2011, 4:36pm »

Greg Lake, I Believe in Father Christmas, any favourite Xmas tunes there guys? PowerKnight wink
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