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« Reply #810 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 2:44pm »

'White boys and heros'

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« Reply #811 on: Feb 2nd, 2012, 4:52pm »

Nice..here is the uncut version of the The Chambers Brothers posted and gives a much better pictorial representation and flavour of those years.
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« Reply #812 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 11:59am »

All of this talk about Classic Rock prompted me to dig deeper in my personal archives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5lJkuPtWDQ

I'm going through the alphabet backwards this time. I can never get through this whenever I start it.
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« Reply #813 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 2:22pm »

on Feb 3rd, 2012, 11:59am, icepick wrote:
All of this talk about Classic Rock prompted me to dig deeper in my personal archives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5lJkuPtWDQ

I'm going through the alphabet backwards this time. I can never get through this whenever I start it.


I'm with you here...their best lp's were the ones before this one..... Mr Fantasy, Traffic, John Barlecycorn, Low Spark....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_(band)
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« Reply #814 on: Feb 3rd, 2012, 6:49pm »

Granted the whole release wasn't quite up to their usual speed, but I really like the title tune a lot. I've always thought that Blind Faith went down in flames so that Winwood could concentrate on Traffic. grin

A facetious comment of course. Blind Faith was a victim of the members. Too much talent in one spot often results in egomania of Biblical proportions doesn't it? Like the fist fights that destroyed the studio while the Eagles were trying to record The Long Run? I say try, because they did not truly succeed in my opinion. Only went through the motions and got their butts out of there. I'd love to have been there to see that beer dumped on Glen Frey's head when he was telling all of them where and how far though .....

If the RIAA should grow a little courage and show us the graceful death we're all deserving to witness, will we see the return of music of the quality we were fortunate enough to experience back then? The talent is definitely out there. It is nothing more than the greed of this trade group which prevents it from happening in my opinion. Any artist with any brains refuses to even get close to one of their labels, let alone sign with them. The old time giants can name their terms, but I have read some real horror stories about the way they will screw new artists if they get the chance. Talk about killing the goose that laid the golden egg .......
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« Reply #815 on: Feb 4th, 2012, 5:26pm »

Making it a little further back through those archives today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EacQEhrbBQ
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« Reply #816 on: Feb 5th, 2012, 8:26pm »

on Feb 4th, 2012, 5:26pm, icepick wrote:
Making it a little further back through those archives today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EacQEhrbBQ


Funny you posted that as I was just listening to their lp Happy Trails the other day.
Ive got all on vinyl and 3 on cd.
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« Reply #817 on: Feb 5th, 2012, 10:22pm »

You've probably updated your collection as it wore out? I ripped my entire music collection to a series of hard drives about eleven years ago due to this problem. It took me weeks for what was on CD. And trust me, you don't even want to know about the vinyl. grin

I forget how many drives that took. But I had a SCSI system, and was adding towers full of drives like crazy. I wouldn't dream of keeping it on the old IDE drives. Average drive size was probably 18 GB.

Today I have the entire thing on a 32GB Flash Memory MP3 player with a 64 GB add in memory card for any listening outside the home. Pretty cool. I've been listening to it for days with it set to sort by reverse alphabetical order for days now. Actually about a week I think. I wondered how long it would take to play. Definitely over two weeks. We'll see.

Next order of business? Discover a better method for finding new artists who are good. The field is thinned a bit these days. Something to do with RIAA contract policy I've heard. And even the underground FM stations have been commercialized. We have one here that the students run over at the University of Washington that's usually alright. Only problem is it's a learning tool. Which means you run the threat of being victimized by the tastes of the student DJ.
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« Reply #818 on: Feb 5th, 2012, 10:32pm »

Hey, guys, ya'll ever use a loop station, I am tried of my RC2 and considering the RC3 or the RC50, any thing that can be uploaded to the CPU, below are some cats that worked theirs pretty good.
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« Reply #819 on: Feb 5th, 2012, 10:42pm »

on Feb 5th, 2012, 10:22pm, icepick wrote:
You've probably updated your collection as it wore out? I ripped my entire music collection to a series of hard drives about eleven years ago due to this problem. It took me weeks for what was on CD. And trust me, you don't even want to know about the vinyl. grin

I forget how many drives that took. But I had a SCSI system, and was adding towers full of drives like crazy. I wouldn't dream of keeping it on the old IDE drives. Average drive size was probably 18 GB.

Today I have the entire thing on a 32GB Flash Memory MP3 player with a 64 GB add in memory card for any listening outside the home. Pretty cool. I've been listening to it for days with it set to sort by reverse alphabetical order for days now. Actually about a week I think. I wondered how long it would take to play. Definitely over two weeks. We'll see.

Next order of business? Discover a better method for finding new artists who are good. The field is thinned a bit these days. Something to do with RIAA contract policy I've heard. And even the underground FM stations have been commercialized. We have one here that the students run over at the University of Washington that's usually alright. Only problem is it's a learning tool. Which means you run the threat of being victimized by the tastes of the student DJ.


Most of my vinyl is in decent shape and the ones I like the best are on cd now.....I don't know much about how to put it on hard drives. What do you recommend?
32GB Flash Memory MP3 player with a 64 GB add in memory card for any listening outside the home...is that the way to go? I have another friend with a huge collection who has converted his to some computer file system but not MP3....not sure what he uses but it had a specific program name and is designed specifically for music uploading..He burns prog cd's for me from this system.
For prog use Prog Rock Archives online...they have all the new bands listed as soon as they come out. For pop and rock I ck out MOJO magazine and even Rolling Stone to keep up on new bands. There are other web sites that keep track of new bands also like Pandora .
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« Reply #820 on: Feb 6th, 2012, 02:00am »

For compression I like to use FLAC if I have the room to do so. The biggest benefit is that it's lossless, meaning that none of the sound is dropped. And it works.

But like everything else which sounds too good to be true, it does have several drawbacks. Top of the list is that you must make certain it's compatible with what you're going to use it with. This is pretty standard for Open Source software as Microsoft literally hates this concept. It will work great in Windows, but be sure you read info at the download site and download the right file(s). Sometimes a second download is required. Microsoft not only left everything out necessary to support this program, they even tried to block it until they discovered that would disable Media Player as well. Their beef? This application requires no DRM, will install no DRM components, and also happens to be useful when removing the DRM tags.

Got that? Unless you run an old copy of Windows this will never be a problem. But it's always good to warn people. Right? MS is working on image now though. Rotsa Ruck.

While it will compress, don't expect it to reduce size by more than two thirds max, depending on music type. Where the stuff we listen to is concerned, that can often be limited to half. But it is the best lossless format out there. BTW, I would avoid the Apple, Sony, and Microsoft formats completely. They're too DRM happy, and their products often suffer because of this in my opinion.

Are you up on the lossless/lossy bit? Most of the formats out there are lossy. What this means is that the conversion application will remove unnecessary sounds in order to get the size down. Who decides what sounds are important? The program naturally. Some do okay, others do not. They claim you can't tell the difference, but we both know this is bogus. Correct? Microsoft claims one of their WMA formats is lossless, but if that's true, the point is moot. It sounds like crap to my ears and I'm half deaf. But so do the formats put out by other DRM supporting/loving companies IMO. I suspect this has something to do with their copy protection scheme.

And you can always get carried away with any of the lossy formats where compression is concerned. I have found that MP3 is still the best all around in the lossy department. Just don't set your compression below the 320 (maximum size) setting. The 64 bit rate, or highest compression level, sucks Eboli Goats.

FLAC compatible hardware:

I like this brand best for sound quality:

http://www.cowonglobal.com/

They are somewhat more expensive than most brands, but they can drive a full sized set of headphones to the limit. They aren't always available with expansion (card) slots either. But most brands aren't.

I can't find my Sandisk model right now, but here's one that you might like:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855125168

It only has 4 GB onboard, but it also has an expansion slot. A 64 GB card, should you choose one that large, is around $75. You can get cards from half a meg all the way to 64 GB. A larger one is expected soon, meaning the price on the rest should drop.

Size: tunes are usually around 50 MB in size. Audio takes a lot of room, and the type of music we listen to takes the most usually. Surprised? A 320 bit rate compressed copy of Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd takes about 30 MB. MP4 will drastically cut that size, but I doubt your ears would like it. (sales people hate dealing with audiophiles where these players are concerned). Stairway to Heaven at the lowest acceptable setting, a 192 bit rate, is about 11 MB.

Expect anywhere from 75 to 125 songs for every gigabyte when you stick to the highest quality sound settings. This is a considerable improvement from stock though. A CD has 650 to 700 MB depending on type. So in full blown mode, storage sucks. If you worry about the quality too much, buy local and verify the unit's sound before purchasing. If they refuse, tell the to ..... well, this is a family site. But the sound on some brands sucks. The units I mentioned are good ones. Ignore internet rating systems BTW. One customer with little knowledge and few skills always skews those things.

I use the pro version of CDDA Extractor for ripping, converting, burning, well ....... everything. It does all of them, and it does everything well. If you want free, you can browse the Open Source sites. But this app is only $30, and trying out software can be a pain.

What not to buy? Ipods are a nice player in ways, but try getting your music back off one if necessary. If you aren't computer savvy, this is usually a one way trip. Their application required to get music on it puts a lot of stuff on your computer which isn't necessary, they're spendy, and all of their cords are proprietary, as well as costing twice what cords adhering to ANSI specs do. Apple likes to claim they are superior, but this is the company that charges $125 for a floppy drive ($15 for a standard model), an obsolete piece of hardware. In other words, more crap. True they are compatible with everything, but only because they were first. You can hook an MP3 player of any type to any car stereo with an auxiliary input.

MS Zune, or any MS application in this area is going to be so DRM happy ........... well, you probably shouldn't ask me about Microsoft products. As far as I'm concerned, this company is too proprietary for words. Their OS is nice and flashy, but it's really second rate to one you can download legally off the internet for free. Like Ubuntu Linux for example. Does the same things, is free, and works better. Catch my drift?

One last thing. Don't buy a player with a hard drive. They use more battery power, and can skip. Flash memory players have no moving parts. You can go dirt bike riding and you music won't skip.

That should cover it. Any further questions, feel free to ask. If you choose to buy either of the players I mentioned, I recommend you do so online. You'll save. If Newegg doesn't have it Amazon should. If not, Google can find where.
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« Reply #821 on: Feb 6th, 2012, 02:16am »

I had to check out Pandora before commenting. It seems to be cool, but I've also read it's kind of pricey. How does this work? As I said, I'm looking for alternative means of finding new music that's good. I've found this to be tough these days, as most artists who are good are also intelligent enough to avoid RIAA labels. That means little or no airtime on many, many mainstream stations. I always thought what's implied here were illegal practices?

I imagine this is part of why you browse music publications? Or is it just the apps? If it's the latter, the program I mentioned does it all, and it does it well. Pretty good for $33 IMO.

But it won't find the music for you. embarassed

Guess I'll stick with the college station for now?
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« Reply #822 on: Feb 6th, 2012, 7:07pm »

loop station finalist 2011


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« Reply #823 on: Feb 6th, 2012, 11:50pm »

"You and me are molded by some things well beyond our acknowledgement...."
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« Reply #824 on: Feb 8th, 2012, 06:32am »

How many here are left to find pleasure in an actual musical product, ie, a physical object in a format you can handle and touch then play? Not an electronic gadget with compressed files etc!!! PowerKnight wink
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