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« Reply #915 on: Mar 17th, 2012, 11:12pm »

on Mar 16th, 2012, 6:43pm, icepick wrote:
I see. Well, technically, the music of early Yes is superior in that sense, but a tad to rigid for me. It's almost as technically Classical as that Concerto for Guitar and Violin was for Purple. I'm kind of funny in this respect. I like my Classical Music Classical if you know what I mean.

In case you don't, might I point out that Rock and Roll isn't a true musical genre? Only a four on floor type of beat which allows more notes to be crammed in a given hole. It has been applied to every form of music with success, but does not always sit well with the Classical styles in my opinion. There are exceptions ............ like early Genesis or Queen, but I see those as rarities. Something like the Mahavishnu Orchestra stuff was. When the heavier music bands pulled it off, they played more towards Rock and creativity, which made that music great. But when leaning to the classic side, it's not the same in my eyes.


There are many prog bands that combine classical styles with rock very well imo...I could name dozens by just going through any list on Prog Rock archives under the Symphonic Prog category.......so I'm not sure what you mean.
Mahavishnu of course was a fusion of rock and jazz as was Return To Forever.
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« Reply #916 on: Mar 18th, 2012, 06:05am »

Excuse me, I may not have worded that properly. Classic/classical styles. They only align well with Rock when the emphasis is on Rock in my opinion. Especially Classical, which has a warmth and maturity that's hard to match.

In my opinion the prog box has grown into another catch all genre. Not saying it isn't good. Just that the description has become a bit too broad. For some reason or other, much of this creativity seems to have vanished, so maybe it's splitting hairs now anyway.
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« Reply #917 on: Mar 18th, 2012, 10:16am »

on Mar 18th, 2012, 06:05am, icepick wrote:
Excuse me, I may not have worded that properly. Classic/classical styles. They only align well with Rock when the emphasis is on Rock in my opinion. Especially Classical, which has a warmth and maturity that's hard to match.

In my opinion the prog box has grown into another catch all genre. Not saying it isn't good. Just that the description has become a bit too broad. For some reason or other, much of this creativity seems to have vanished, so maybe it's splitting hairs now anyway.


Hence the term....Progressive Rock. It definitely is formed from rock elements merged with other styles.
I mean this is rock we are talking about..right? wink
If one wants to hear pure classical then throw on some Mozart.

The creativity is still there in many diverse styles ...believe me since I collect prog music and have probably 2 dozen newer bands that are still creating exciting music.
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« Reply #918 on: Mar 18th, 2012, 12:34pm »







What to say,I like old good rock.
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« Reply #919 on: Mar 18th, 2012, 12:49pm »

Zeppelin and Narareth classic stuff great taste...PowerKnight wink
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« Reply #920 on: Mar 18th, 2012, 12:52pm »

on Mar 18th, 2012, 12:49pm, PowerKnight wrote:
Zeppelin and Narareth classic stuff great taste...PowerKnight wink


Oh my gawd....Nazareth sucks.... it's an insult to Zep to have their names mentioned together.

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« Reply #921 on: Mar 18th, 2012, 12:57pm »

Naz suck...huh? Seriously...cracking band very underrated band with Dan McCaffertey the silver throated vox, PowerKnight wink
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« Reply #922 on: Mar 18th, 2012, 8:17pm »

Yes, a few are still at it. Precious few. But the definition got a tad broad in my opinion. About the time fast paced classical made it in. And this comes from someone who even developed a taste for Weather Report. Yes, if I want to lean heavily classical, I'll listen to Mozart. Although I find Brahms or Chopin more interesting. Chopin ............ killer compositions for solo piano work.

BTW, Nazareth sucks? A definite statement of taste if I ever heard it. Sometimes it feels better to simply cut loose. I think they have a definite comparison to Zep. Both started strong, and dropped off very quickly after four albums. Rampant is my favorite Nazareth release. With Zep I have to go with IV.

Yes, I even liked Molly Hatchet. I like most music actually. Except for that written specifically for the billboard charts. Commercial music does suck. In my opinion natch.
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« Reply #923 on: Mar 19th, 2012, 07:23am »

Pearl Jam "Daughter"
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« Reply #924 on: Mar 19th, 2012, 09:59am »

on Mar 18th, 2012, 8:17pm, icepick wrote:
Yes, a few are still at it. Precious few. But the definition got a tad broad in my opinion. About the time fast paced classical made it in. And this comes from someone who even developed a taste for Weather Report. Yes, if I want to lean heavily classical, I'll listen to Mozart. Although I find Brahms or Chopin more interesting. Chopin ............ killer compositions for solo piano work.

BTW, Nazareth sucks? A definite statement of taste if I ever heard it. Sometimes it feels better to simply cut loose. I think they have a definite comparison to Zep. Both started strong, and dropped off very quickly after four albums. Rampant is my favorite Nazareth release. With Zep I have to go with IV.

Yes, I even liked Molly Hatchet. I like most music actually. Except for that written specifically for the billboard charts. Commercial music does suck. In my opinion natch.


Nazareth...Molly Hatchet.. are you serious..?
These second and third tier bands are far below the playing and composing skills of bands like Zep. It's not even close imho and here I thought you knew sumptin about quality classic rock.
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« Reply #925 on: Mar 19th, 2012, 9:24pm »

Now, now, don't be so touchy because of taste. grin

Besides, I only said I like them. However, Zep and Nazareth both really did go dry after similar lengths of time. And none of their members have made a true comeback of any impact that I know of. Plant had a short, very commercial burst, but that's about it. And hey, I'm a hardcore Zep fan too. Always will be. I finally came to grips with the fact they were more limited than I always wanted to believe. But ............ not every artist is loaded with an endless supply of music it seems. Some have only a finite supply.

Yeah, I've been struggling in trying to like David Gilmore's latest release for a long time. Now that ................. really was heartbreaking. Probably just an off release, so I hope it's not his last.

Methinks you pick at Nazareth's first two releases. Neither was up to par. In my opinion naturally. Still like the band though. Like I said, only truly commercial music turns me off. Like ........ say Bryan Adams. Fifty tunes, every one the same tune. And all boring as ......... I won't say it. Not on casebook. grin

I have an ex brother in law who is a musician as well. Way better than I was. Stihl guitar player and singer mainly. I think he likes every piece of music he hears. Even the jingles in commercials. The guy is simply tuned in to any sounds that have been arranged. Well, i never tried tossing out garbage can lids around him in a set pattern, but I'll bet he would pick up on it. cool
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« Reply #926 on: Mar 19th, 2012, 10:44pm »

on Mar 19th, 2012, 9:24pm, icepick wrote:
Now, now, don't be so touchy because of taste. grin

Besides, I only said I like them. However, Zep and Nazareth both really did go dry after similar lengths of time. And none of their members have made a true comeback of any impact that I know of. Plant had a short, very commercial burst, but that's about it. And hey, I'm a hardcore Zep fan too. Always will be. I finally came to grips with the fact they were more limited than I always wanted to believe. But ............ not every artist is loaded with an endless supply of music it seems. Some have only a finite supply.

Yeah, I've been struggling in trying to like David Gilmore's latest release for a long time. Now that ................. really was heartbreaking. Probably just an off release, so I hope it's not his last.

Methinks you pick at Nazareth's first two releases. Neither was up to par. In my opinion naturally. Still like the band though. Like I said, only truly commercial music turns me off. Like ........ say Bryan Adams. Fifty tunes, every one the same tune. And all boring as ......... I won't say it. Not on casebook. grin

I have an ex brother in law who is a musician as well. Way better than I was. Stihl guitar player and singer mainly. I think he likes every piece of music he hears. Even the jingles in commercials. The guy is simply tuned in to any sounds that have been arranged. Well, i never tried tossing out garbage can lids around him in a set pattern, but I'll bet he would pick up on it. cool


Again there simply isn't any comparison between the two...but I guess my taste is...classier. wink

IMO and most reviewers Zep didn't make a bad lp until In The Out Door...but it is about taste. ...btw, Page likes Presence the best.
Limited..? As compared to who and what other bands? By that thinking all rock bands are limited since most run out of good lps sooner than Zep ever did.
And Plant's solo work is better than most who went solo..imo. And his last 3 or 4 have recieved excellent reviews including th country folk rock he did with Krauss.
I think you are a bit out of touch... wink
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Robert Plant on stage with Alison Krauss at Birmingham's NIA, 5 May 2008
From 20072008, Plant recorded and performed with bluegrass star Alison Krauss. A duet album, Raising Sand, was released on 23 October 2007 on Rounder Records. The album, recorded in Nashville and Los Angeles and produced by T-Bone Burnett, includes performances of lesser-known material from R&B, Blues, folk, and country songwriters including Mel Tillis, Townes Van Zandt, Gene Clark, Tom Waits, Doc Watson, Little Milton and The Everly Brothers. The song "Gone Gone Gone (Done Moved On)" from Raising Sand won a Grammy for Best Pop Collaboration With Vocals in 2008. Raising Sand also won Album of the Year at the 51st Grammy Awards.[24] The album has been successful critically and commercially, and was certified platinum on 4 March 2008.
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« Reply #927 on: Mar 19th, 2012, 11:24pm »

No, I have the Plant and Krauss stuff. Or did you forget I'm from Bluegrass country?

By limited I meant, yes, they ran out of music. Remember this is Zep the band, not Plant or Page the artists. The shortcoming may have come from the other two members. It is a communal effort after all. But I never cared for Houses of the Holy, and they only climbed slightly from there IMO. I like IV because it follows the same mood and style so well.

But Plant's solo work? Take it or leave it in my opinion. It's all MOS.

I doubt you know the full extent of my true tastes. You should listen a little closer before claiming that high ground. wink

I simply like a very wide range of music is all.

BTW, whose critical acclaim? All too often critics aren't musicians or even similar. As a result ............. remember the Milli Vanilli flap?
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« Reply #928 on: Mar 19th, 2012, 11:41pm »

on Mar 19th, 2012, 11:24pm, icepick wrote:
No, I have the Plant and Krauss stuff. Or did you forget I'm from Bluegrass country?

By limited I meant, yes, they ran out of music. Remember this is Zep the band, not Plant or Page the artists. The shortcoming may have come from the other two members. It is a communal effort after all. But I never cared for Houses of the Holy, and they only climbed slightly from there IMO. I like IV because it follows the same mood and style so well.

But Plant's solo work? Take it or leave it in my opinion. It's all MOS.

I doubt you know the full extent of my true tastes. You should listen a little closer before claiming that high ground. wink

I simply like a very wide range of music is all.

BTW, whose critical acclaim? All too often critics aren't musicians or even similar. As a result ............. remember the Milli Vanilli flap?


And again they all, rock bands, run out of music and most long before Zep did.. ...your point?
This idea that critics aren't musicians so it somehow affects their judgement is just silly ..they listen to the music like the fans do....that's who it's for not other musicians .
And what in hell does Milli vanilli have to do with Zep....?
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« Reply #929 on: Mar 20th, 2012, 04:37am »

They have to do with the critics Wu. Don't you remember when they walked off with the Grammys, then it was discovered that they not only had not written their own music, but had not even sang on their album? They couldn't sing, and could not play a note of music. But they had many awards bestowed on them by the top critics in the industry. So much for critics knowing how to do their jobs eh?
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