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« Reply #405 on: Sep 27th, 2016, 12:34pm »

OK, you can worry about Hillary, you can worry about Donald, you can worry about Obama, you can worry about ISIS, you can worry about Vladimir, you can even worry about Kim Jong-un....., but MAYBE, just maybe, you oughta worry about THIS:


3 Million a Year--Dead World-Wide


China tops WHO list for deadly outdoor air pollution

More than 1 million Chinese people died from dirty air in one year, according to World Health Organisation


Adam Vaughan
Tuesday 27 September 2016

China is the world’s deadliest country for outdoor air pollution, according to analysis by the World Health Organisation (WHO).

The UN agency has previously warned that tiny particulates from cars, power plants and other sources are killing 3 million people worldwide each year.

For the first time the WHO has broken down that figure to a country-by-country level. It reveals that of the worst three nations, more than 1 million people died from dirty air in China in 2012, at least 600,000 in India and more than 140,000 in Russia.

At 25th out of 184 countries with data, the UK ranks worse than France, with 16,355 deaths in 2012 versus 10,954, but not as poorly as Germany at 26,160, which has more industry and 16 million more people. Australia had 94 deaths and 38,043 died in the US that year from particulate pollution.

Maria Neria, director of the WHO’s public health and the environment department, told the Guardian: “Countries are confronted with the reality of better data. Now we have the figures of how many citizens are dying from air pollution. What we are learning is, this is very bad. Now there are no excuses for not taking action.”

Gavin Shaddick, who led the international team that put together the data, said: “Globally, air pollution presents a major risk to public health and a substantial number of lives could be saved if levels of air pollution were reduced.”

In the UK more than 90% of the population lives in areas with levels of PM2.5s above the WHO’s air-quality limits of 10 micrograms per cubic metre for the annual mean. The government is in the high court on 18 and 19 October facing a legal challenge by environmental law group ClientEarth, which says ministers’ clean-up plans for another pollutant – nitrogen dioxide – are inadequate.

Globally, 92% of the population breathes air that breaches WHO limits but the world map of deaths caused by PM2.5s changes when looked at per capita. When ranked by the number of deaths for every 100,000 people, Ukraine jumps to the top of the list at 120.

It is followed by eastern European and former Soviet states, and Russia itself, probably due to a legacy of heavy industry in the region. China drops down to 10th, at 76 per 100,000, and India falls to 27th, with 49 per 100,000.

Air pollution in the Ukraine caused four times more deaths per capita than the five cleanest countries combined.

Most of the air pollution comes from cars, coal-fired plants and waste burning but not all of it is created by humans. Dust storms in places close to deserts also contribute to dirty air, explaining partly why Iran is at 16th highest for total deaths, at 26,000 a year.

Most of the total deaths worldwide – two out of three – occur in south-east Asia and the western Pacific, which includes China, Vietnam, Japan, Australia, South Korea and small Pacific island states.

Shaddick said: “We might think of [pollution in] Beijing as being very high, but when you fill in the gaps between the big [Chinese] cities, [air pollution in] regions [is] remarkably high compared to the WHO limits [10 grams per cubic metre for the annual mean], up in the 50s and 60s. That’s something we in the west can’t even comprehend. That was probably a bit of a shock [to me].”

Anne Hidalgo, mayor of Paris and chair-elect of a network of cities combating climate change, said: “Fighting pollution is one of my top priorities as mayor of Paris. It is a vital public health issue and all mayors should take on their responsibility to deliver bold actions.”

The city of Paris voted on Monday to ban cars along a stretch of the river Seine to cut pollution, defeating a minority rightwing opposition.

Hidalgo added: “I have said it before and am saying it again: we cannot negotiate with Parisians’ health.”

Neira said Canada and Scandinavian countries deserved praise for curbing air pollution and singled out France too. “France is taking a lot of action, Paris is taking aggressive measures: aggressive in the good sense. [It] maybe unpopular because it’s for the health of people but they are putting some restrictions on individuals. We all need to understand this is a matter of public health,” she said.

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« Reply #406 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 2:32pm »

Fukushima Radiation Has Contaminated The Entire Pacific Ocean (And It's Going To Get Worse)
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What was the most dangerous nuclear disaster in world history? Most people would say the Chernobyl nuclear disaster in Ukraine, but they’d be wrong. In 2011, an earthquake, believed to be an aftershock of the 2010 earthquake in Chile, created a tsunami that caused a meltdown at the TEPCO nuclear power plant in Fukushima, Japan. Three nuclear reactors melted down and what happened next was the largest release of radiation into the water in the history of the world. Over the next three months, radioactive chemicals, some in even greater quantities than Chernobyl, leaked into the Pacific Ocean. However, the numbers may actually be much higher as Japanese official estimates have been proven by several scientists to be flawed in recent years.
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Radioactive Debris from Fukushima approaching North America’s western coast Credit – RT

If that weren’t bad enough, Fukushima continues to leak an astounding 300 tons of radioactive waste into the Pacific Ocean every day. It will continue do so indefinitely as the source of the leak cannot be sealed as it is inaccessible to both humans and robots due to extremely high temperatures.

It should come as no surprise, then, that Fukushima has contaminated the entire Pacific Ocean in just five years. This could easily be the worst environmental disaster in human history and it is almost never talked about by politicians, establishment scientists, or the news. It is interesting to note that TEPCO is a subsidiary of General Electric (also known as GE), one of the largest companies in the world, which has considerable control over numerous news corporations and politicians alike. Could this possibly explain the lack of news coverage Fukushima has received in the last five years? There is also evidence that GE knew about the poor condition of the Fukushima reactors for decades and did nothing. This led 1,400 Japanese citizens to sue GE for their role in the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

Even if we can’t see the radiation itself, some parts of North America’s western coast have been feeling the effects for years. Not long after Fukushima, fish in Canada began bleeding from their gills, mouths, and eyeballs. This “disease” has been ignored by the government and has decimated native fish populations, including the North Pacific herring. Elsewhere in Western Canada, independent scientists have measured a 300% increase in the level of radiation. According to them, the amount of radiation in the Pacific Ocean is increasing every year. Why is this being ignored by the mainstream media? It might have something to do with the fact that the US and Canadian governments have banned their citizens from talking about Fukushima so “people don’t panic.”
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Further south in Oregon, USA, starfish began losing legs and then disintegrating entirely when Fukushima radiation arrived there in 2013. Now, they are dying in record amounts, putting the entire oceanic ecosystem in that area at risk. However, government officials say Fukushima is not to blame even though radiation in Oregon tuna tripled after Fukushima. In 2014, radiation on California beaches increased by 500 percent. In response, government officials said that the radiation was coming from a mysterious “unknown” source and was nothing to worry about.

However, Fukushima is having a bigger impact than just the West coast of North America. Scientists are now saying that the Pacific Ocean is already radioactive and is currently at least 5-10 times more radioactive than when the US government dropped numerous nuclear bombs in the Pacific during and after World War II. If we don’t start talking about Fukushima soon, we could all be in for a very unpleasant surprise.
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« Reply #407 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 3:27pm »

Don't you think it a bit odd that the radiation meters along the Pacific North West are no showing any increase ?

They are pretty much the same as they have been for the last two years.

Even the highest readings as found In Boulder are the same hi(ish) reading they were.

Nothing is showing this increase mentioned.

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« Reply #408 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 3:42pm »

truth be told Hal...I liked the pretty colors on the map.
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« Reply #409 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 4:28pm »

HAL,

TO WIT:

"Nothing is showing this increase mentioned."

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The definition of in denial is a refusal or unwillingness to accept something or to accept reality.

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Cognitive dissonance refers to a situation involving conflicting attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This produces a feeling of discomfort leading to an alteration in one of the attitudes, beliefs or behaviors to reduce the discomfort and restore balance etc.

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School Science Project Reveals High Levels Of Fukushima Nuclear Radiation in Grocery Store Seafood

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/school-science-project-reveals-high-levels-of-fukushima-nuclear-radiation-in-grocery-store-seafood

A Canadian high school student named Bronwyn Delacruz never imagined that her school science project would make headlines all over the world. But that is precisely what has happened. Using a $600 Geiger counter purchased by her father, Delacruz measured seafood bought at local grocery stores for radioactive contamination. What she discovered was absolutely stunning. Much of the seafood, particularly the products that were made in China, tested very high for radiation. So is this being caused by nuclear radiation from Fukushima? Is the seafood that we are eating going to give us cancer and other diseases? The American people deserve the truth, but as you will see below, the U.S. and Canadian governments are not even testing imported seafood for radiation. To say that this is deeply troubling would be a massive understatement.

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The Japanese are doing testing off the coast of Japan, and one fish that was recently caught off the coast of the Fukushima prefecture was discovered to have 124 times the safe level of radioactive cesium.

So why are all the authorities in North America just assuming that the fish are going to be perfectly fine on this side of the Pacific?

One test that was conducted in California discovered that 15 out of 15 Bluefin tuna were contaminated with radiation from Fukushima.

So how can the authorities say “don’t worry, just eat the seafood”?

Everyone agrees that a plume of radioactive water has been moving from Fukushima toward the west coast of the United States.


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And multiple independent tests have already confirmed that levels of nuclear radiation are being detected on California beaches that are more than 10 times the normal level.


Clearly something is happening.

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« Reply #410 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 4:32pm »

I know nothing about many things, this is one of them, when I try to learn,
there seems to be more confliction than me learning anything.
Did find this interesting.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/17/live-real-time-monitoring-map-of-radiation-counts-in-the-usa/

Does anyone remember when the climate change talk started?

This seems more of a issue, than anything else.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGR_1806-20

Maybe you brainEacts can fill me in.

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« Reply #411 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 4:44pm »

on Oct 2nd, 2016, 3:27pm, INT21 wrote:
Don't you think it a bit odd that the radiation meters along the Pacific North West are no showing any increase ?

They are pretty much the same as they have been for the last two years.

Even the highest readings as found In Boulder are the same hi(ish) reading they were.

Nothing is showing this increase mentioned.

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From the link:

Even if we can’t see the radiation itself, some parts of North America’s western coast have been feeling the effects for years.

What does this mean? If you can't see (or measure it?) then is it there? Also, is that a map of radiation levels or something else? What are CM's? (centimeters?) I see this map being used on several sites possibly misrepresenting it and I have a suspicion it refers to tsunami wave height.
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« Reply #412 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 7:01pm »

Gentlemen..Gentlemen....now I am quite willing to concede that the article i posted was a tad lacking in specific data that we can apply our unsurpassed math skills to determine contamination spread, evaporation into the air then carried faster to land, solubility rates etc to make some reasonable assessment..what do we know for sure..that cesium 134 has a half life of years..that means 4 years to completely decompose to something else.so instead of one gram of cesium 134..its only .5 m .cesium 137 on the other had..has a half life of 30 years..meaning 60 years to circulate nicely and make its self available for absorption or ingestion, the latter the most dangerous...the primary source has not stopped putting it out for the last 5 years....we never knew where this was going because the currents were never really know until they became radioactive..and the material acted like a toxic dye..
I mentioned ingestion..lets try..inhalation..externally..imagine putting hands over nice warm coals..now imagine inhaling hot embers from the same coal..that's the difference..
Surely this is a far fetched unlikely possibility..no its not..some of the cesium has been found non soluble..and therefore physically persistent rather dissipating..or dissolution.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/06/160627095015.htm?trendmd-shared=0
New research shows that most of the radioactive fallout which landed on downtown Tokyo a few days after the Fukushima accident was concentrated and deposited in non-soluble glass microparticles, as a type of 'glassy soot'. This meant that most of the radioactive material was not dissolved in rain and running water, and probably stayed in the environment until removed by direct washing or physical removal. The particles also concentrated the radioactive caesium (Cs), meaning that in some cases dose effects of the fallout are still unclear. These results are announced at the Goldschmidt geochemistry conference in Yokohama, Japan.

The flooding of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant (FDNPP) after the disastrous earthquake on March 11 2011 caused the release of significant amounts of radioactive material, including caesium (Cs) isotopes 134Cs (half-life, 2 years) and 137Cs (half-life, 30 years).

Japanese geochemists, headed by Dr Satoshi Utsunomiya (Kyushu University, Japan), analysed samples collected from within an area up to 230 km from the FDNPP. As caesium is water-soluble, it had been anticipated that most of the radioactive fallout would have been flushed from the environment by rainwater. However, analysis with state-of-the-art electron microscopy in conjunction with autoradiography techniques showed that most of the radioactive caesium in fact fell to the ground enclosed in glassy microparticles, formed at the time of the reactor meltdown.

The analysis shows that these particles mainly consist of Fe-Zn-oxides nanoparticles, which, along with the caesium were embedded in Si oxide glass that formed during the molten core-concrete interaction inside the primary containment vessel in the Fukushima reactor units 1 and/or 3. Because of the high Cs content in the microparticles, the radioactivity per unit mass was as high as ~4.4x1011 Bq/g, which is between 107 and 108 times higher than the background Cs radioactivity per unit mass of the typical soils in Fukushima.

Closer microparticle structural and geochemical analysis also revealed what happened during the accident at FDNPP. Radioactive Cs was released and formed airborne Cs nanoparticles. Nuclear fuel, at temperatures of above 2200 K (about as hot as a blowtorch), melted the reactor pressure vessel resulting in failure of the vessel. The airborne Cs nanoparticles were condensed along with the Fe-Zn nanoparticles and the gas from the molten concrete, to form the SiO2 glass nanoparticles, which were then dispersed.

Analysis from several air filters collected in Tokyo on 15 March 2011 showed that 89% of the total radioactivity was present as a result of these caesium-rich microparticles, rather than the soluble Cs, as had originally been supposed.

According to Dr Satoshi Utsunomiya; "This work changes some of our assumptions about the Fukushima fallout. It looks like the clean-up procedure, which consisted of washing and removal of top soils, was the correct thing to do. However, the concentration of radioactive caesium in microparticles means that, at an extremely localised and focused level, the radioactive fallout may have been more (or less) concentrated than anticipated. This may mean that our ideas of the health implications should be modified."

Commenting, Prof. Bernd Grambow, Director of SUBATECH laboratory, Nantes, France and leader of the research group on interfacial reaction field chemistry of the ASRC/JAEA, Tokai, Japan, said:

"The leading edge observations by nano-science facilities presented here are extremely important. They may change our understanding of the mechanism of long range atmospheric mass transfer of radioactive caesium from the reactor accident at Fukushima to Tokyo, but they may also change the way we assess inhalation doses from the caesium microparticles inhaled by humans. Indeed, biological half- lives of insoluble caesium particles might be much larger than that of soluble caesium."

that means these particulates were ingested/inhaled by birds, fish, dolphins, humans..
The initial assumptions were wrong..and the cavalier it will all go away predictions are probably skewed and if not off completely and at least 3 years too late...There will not be enough Obamacare in the universe to cover whats about to rear its head in our direction.

I rest my case

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TO WIT:

"that means these particulates were ingested/inhaled by birds, fish, dolphins, humans..
The initial assumptions were wrong..and the cavalier it will all go away predictions are probably skewed and if not off completely and at least 3 years too late...There will not be enough Obamacare in the universe to cover whats about to rear its head in our direction."


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I am changing everyones seats and I want you young Hal to sit as far away from that insufferable horse as possible and stop disrupting my class.I have a month before retirement and I don't need you giving me a heart infarction before then with your fancy backtalk.
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« Reply #415 on: Oct 2nd, 2016, 7:59pm »

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The Giant Behemoth

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i remember that..an gorgon..behemoth had an ancient disease too..no wonder Elon wants to get off the planet.. shocked
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« Reply #417 on: Oct 3rd, 2016, 06:14am »

A long, long time ago I was taking a course at a local college that required me do do some research into the effects upon people of the lead in vehicle exhaust. It was all about the tetra ethyl lead used to reduce 'knocking' in the higher compression engines.

And a strange thing way discovered.

People living along the UK's West coast were found to have more lead in their blood than those living in cities. This was odd as there are many fewer cars in the coastal areas than in the crowded towns.

Also it was found that the level increased when the wind was from the West.

It was found to be caused by the lead in human waste (Shitskey(Z), if you must) that was being dumped (no pun intended) into the Irish Sea. The sea water was causing the lead to be extracted from this waste and the wind then carried it inland.

So all one needs to do is do a big survey of the Cesium content of Californians and then you have a reasonable basis on which to form an opinion.

Of course, there may be some cross-contamination with other chemicals that will need to be taken into consideration.

Maybe do the same around Hanford.

We see many programs on tv that show the more popular scientists testing various foods and cosmetic products. Why not for radiation contamination.

Mind you, if it turned out that say, Maine lobsters were routinely found to be contaminated, would 'they' tell you ?

Trump is quite prepared to re-open the coal fields to get a few votes, even if the pollution would be horrendous. Would they kill the lobster industry if it was found to be unsafe ?

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« Reply #418 on: Oct 3rd, 2016, 07:08am »

on Oct 3rd, 2016, 06:14am, INT21 wrote:
Mind you, if it turned out that say, Maine lobsters were routinely found to be contaminated, would 'they' tell you ?


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Maine lobster actually have a high mercury content. Contrary to popular belief the Mercury is not from environmental pollution but natural. Like many bio hazards, long-lived critters tend to bioacumulate. However, since it’s (lobster) very expensive, and considered a luxury item most people cannot afford it nor is it a staple diet. For this reason, it is not considered a public health risk. Other public concerns besides lead (bullets and paint) are asbestos, less well-known (to the public) are VOCs in car paint, and even cigarette smoking the heat of which can produce radioactive nucleotides, consequently when collected by cilia as phlegm in the trachea can be the equivalent of a constant x-ray,(lung cancer) and a host of many other contaminants (yes certainly radiation, Chernobyl and atomic testing, Godzilla). It’s not enough that the public is exposed to these contaminants in one form or another, but in addition drug use is rampant. In some cases resulting in long-term genetic damage. Putting this all together, no wonder a significant portion of the population can be considered mentally impaired, and you wonder why some of these people go off on a shooting rampage or succumb to the desperation of a Islamic calling?

Just a few more tidbits of environmental concern. There still are PCBs in the environment. These are polychlorinated biphenyls used as an insulating and cooling oil in transformers throughout the country. Responsible for decimating the eagle population. They were banned eventually but still persist in the environment. The Hudson River still has a problem with PCBs. Other things to consider are produce especially from Mexico where they pump tons of insecticide. Now I know you can wash those fruits and vegetables, but you don’t know what’s inside. Another problem is in the beef you eat, probably laced with steroids and growth hormone.

Another problem is all the people who throw away prescription drugs down the toilet. Even though this goes to a treatment plant, they are not equipped to filter water to that degree to keep out viruses, drugs, and the various hormone drugs.

So eventually these things end up in offshore sea critters, including fish, crabs, oysters, mussels, clams and shrimp. I can go on with more doom and gloom but I’ve already had enough for today just thinking about this.

I’m not worried about coal. Coal was formed long before the Industrial Revolution. Other than natural elements in the coal the biggest concern is CO2. However, CO2 in the atmosphere eventually goes into a buffer in the ocean. Eventually this becomes phytoplankton and food for zooplankton, anchovies and other fish up the food chain. Also every green plant consumes CO2. Oxygen from the plants is a byproduct. Ultimately coal plants could probably increase fish production. As for global warming. The sun is pretty much responsible for that our contribution is insignificant. One volcano puts out more CO2 then every car collectively since its beginning by Mr. Ford.

Also there’s been concern about nuclear power plants. At one time I was in a regulatory position having to “deal” with various nuclear power plants and construction companies such as Stone & Webster.

Back then there was competition and different designs in nuclear power plants. This was an invitation for confusion and mistakes. One time a nuclear power plant was put in backwards. This is one time the federal government should have stepped in.

For example, you could put a retired nuclear submarine into Baltimore Harbor and the reactor is so safe you could fry an egg on it but it would supply Baltimore with all the power it needed.

The Navy had the right idea, making safe nuclear power plants (although a tad bit smaller than a regional plant).

I could probably give you a list of failed nuclear power plants throughout the country much of this has to do with different designs resulting in big screw ups.

The Navy had it right. They developed safe nuclear power which still could be adapted to civilian use. Unfortunately, this is not a popular idea for the likes of Stone & Webster etc. and the so-called nuclear industry.


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« Reply #419 on: Oct 3rd, 2016, 10:13am »

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So, mercuric lobster gets the rich while the salmon gets the poor; and, I suppose, the bears.

You are indeed correct in that we have so many pollutants we probably don't know what is causing many of our problems.

I think that due to evolution we are probably safe from most of the natural pollution. But it is the man-made stuff that has come upon us so quickly we can't adapt to it.

As for the nuclear industry. America has Admiral Hyman Rickover to thank for the Navy's predominance it the design of many the reactors used there.

If you can get hold of it, have a read of 'Super Fuel' by Richard Martin. I'm sure you will find it interesting.

My greatest pollutant worry is secondary smoke from my wife's cigarettes. I hate it. But the fact that she is slowly killing me doesn't seem to matter.

Aren't women wonderful ?

That was rhetorical, no need to answer.

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Isn't it midnight, on the other side of the world.
Do you remember
the face of a pretty girl ?
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