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« Reply #495 on: Feb 5th, 2017, 02:01am »


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/tepco-admits-fukushima-radiation-levels-reach-record-highs-hole-reactor-discovered

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Hey Joe..Over here up there I saw something over there. It glow and go underground this is all big coverup I know because American horse told me so. . tongue
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« Reply #496 on: Feb 5th, 2017, 4:11pm »

on Feb 5th, 2017, 02:01am, Sys_Config wrote:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/tepco-admits-fukushima-radiation-levels-reach-record-highs-hole-reactor-discovered

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If a robot can't get near it for very long, or man, how do they plan on cleaning it up ?


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« Reply #497 on: Feb 5th, 2017, 11:26pm »

They can send probes to the sun but cant here. They can photograph plankton dying in antarctic..but not the Pacicic near Fukushima..simply because..they dont want to.



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Why are so many whales and other Pacific sea life starving to death?

Use the information in the links below to educate people.

This view is sported by Dr. Sternglass's research paper below. It clearly demonstrates how nuclear contamination from the nuclear bomb testing era caused a significant crash in Pacific Ocean fish stocks. If this was the case then, it would be logical to assume that the Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe is having a similar effect.

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“The purpose of the study was to determine whether continued atmospheric testing by France and China or potential releases from underground detonations that might unexpectedly escape into the nearby fishing grounds could have detectable effects on the reproduction of fish populations similar to the unanticipatedly severe effects of low level radiation on the human embryo and fetus (2, 3, 4) recently confirmed by independent studies by other investigators (5, 6).”

http://sccc.org.au/the-pacific-ocean-is-dying

A Scientific Basis For Destruction Of Ocean Food Chain Via Radiation

https://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com.au/2016/02/a-scientific-basis-for-destruction-of.html

http://enenews.com/tv-woah-dead-whales-record-high-number-of-deaths-in-hawaii-carcasses-scattered-throughout-islands-in-pacific-sick-ans-starving-animals-a-mystery-to-scientists-possible-health


They are starving for a reason..if plankton dies..they cannot eat..the radiation wont show up in whales because there was nothing to eat/ When there is nothing to eat..females will not breed///especially if there are no males left to breed with..
Somehow this escapes them.. it will be clearer as the die offs continue..









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« Reply #498 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 2:16pm »

http://www.infowars.com/northern-hemisphere-potentially-in-great-danger-as-fukushima-radiation-spikes-to-unimaginable-levels/

same as prior but with additional information for your dining pleasure cool


http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a25034/radiation-spikes-fukushima-possible-breach/

they hope to remove the fuel by 2021 undecided
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« Reply #499 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 2:40pm »

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...Why are so many whales and other Pacific sea life starving to death?..

Could be because Krill, staple food of many whales, like cold water.

And the oceans are slowly heating up.

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« Reply #500 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 2:57pm »


" They hope ".....


I hope so too, but have many doubts.....






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« Reply #501 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 3:05pm »

Cliff,

Odd, considering the attention this matter is getting, that no one (preferably a qualified marine scientist) is publishing regular radiation levels from the oceans in question.

It has been done for years on land.

By the way, nice photo of the green comet.

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« Reply #502 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 3:44pm »


Here's Woods Hole

https://www.whoi.edu/main/topic/fukushima-radiation

Cesium isn't the only concern. Throughout time it only gets worse . Imo.


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http://www.whoi.edu/news-release/fukushima-site-still-leaking

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« Reply #503 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 4:01pm »

I thought this was a resonable scientific look..that states there is no danger..then the buts and caveats

http://www.deepseanews.com/2014/01/is-the-sea-floor-littered-with-dead-animals-due-to-radiation-no/

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« Reply #504 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 4:28pm »

Cliff, Sys.

Thanks for those links.

I'll need a while to study them before offering a comment.

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« Reply #505 on: Feb 6th, 2017, 4:51pm »

on Feb 6th, 2017, 4:28pm, INT21 wrote:
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Thanks for those links.

I'll need a while to study them before offering a comment.

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I don't mind at all Hal none of us want to sound like a choir..its very consistent with some of what you pointed out Its important for all of us to read everything and both sides....temp..currents. climate .which he admits is a lot more dynamic than we thought..but he also points or acknowledges the collective impact from the nuke tests..chernobyl..and the radiation..albeit not horrific as some reports.. has made it to us. and several fish he would not consume..anything from japan.or the black sea..like caviar...as if it had some wall around it to protect us...so while not saying it is an accelerant it is a form of access denied to food sources amid a growing population but fish in a dynamic system don't know that.Whilst a forest can burn and acts a catalyst for later new growth..it doesnt seem to work that way in the oceans..
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« Reply #506 on: Feb 8th, 2017, 2:15pm »

At least this much made the msm.....


Incredibly high radiation levels discovered at crippled Fukushima plant

Published February 08, 2017
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Newly-discovered radiation levels in one of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant’s reactors are stunningly high, the Japan Times and others have reported. The space is so radioactive that even a robot couldn’t last two hours, let alone a human.

It was on March 11, 2011, that the coastal power plant in Japan’s Fukushima Prefecture was hit by a tidal wave, which not only cut off the plant’s electrical power, also took out the generators that provided its backup power. The natural disaster triggered the meltdown of three reactors at the plant.

The new readings come from inside reactor two, where the radiation levels are 530 sieverts per hour, according to Tepco, the Tokyo Electric Power Company. That’s highly radioactive— most radiation is measured in thousandths of a sievert, a unit called a millisievert.

One dental X-ray is just .01 millisievert, according to the Guardian— which also pointed out that 10 sieverts can lead to death.

At the end of January, Tepco said that they had taken, from inside reaction two, “intriguing images that may be fuel debris from the March 2011 accident,” but needed to study them more. (They have provided more information of their findings in this PDF.): http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2017/images/handouts_170130_02-e.pdf

The company would like to deploy a robot, but the robot would be fried before even two hours at those radiation levels, since it is designed to endure 1000 sieverts, according to the Japan Times.

The radiation levels are the highest yet measured at the devastated plant, which could take as many as four decades to fully deal with.

Not since Chernobyl suffered a catastrophic meltdown in 1986 in the former Soviet Union has the world witnessed such a serious nuclear accident— and it was only in 2016 that experts succeeded in covering Chernobyl’s site with a large protective dome to protect the concrete sarcophagus.

Watch video: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/08/incredibly-high-radiation-levels-discovered-at-crippled-fukushima-plant.html

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« Reply #507 on: Feb 10th, 2017, 2:42pm »

In deep hole, a chance for economic improvement?

Posted: Saturday, January 7, 2017
By Rebecca Moss
The New Mexican

NARA VISA, N.M. — They say the price of gas was the last straw. It was too costly to bring fuel to this tiny speck of a town 50 miles northeast of Tucumcari along the Texas border. And too few buyers were interested once it got here. When the last truck stop, the Red-X, closed down, the cafe and one of two motels followed. People started leaving. Kids grew up and moved away with too few jobs available for miles along these vast, desert plains that turn purple like a bruise in winter. They didn’t bring their families back. That was 11 years ago.

Now the town has a ghost-like quality. There’s just a fast highway down the main stretch and homes tucked away along dirt roads, many abandoned with the doors left open and windows broken. Over the years, the wind and rain have seeped in, rotting the wood and sweeping in layers of red dirt. The signs for the Bell St. Mini Mart, Ira’s Bar and the Rockin’ Horse antique shop are weatherworn and washed out almost beyond recognition, with bent venetian blinds drawn sideways and concrete roofs partially caved in. A handmade sign nailed to a wooden portico on the main street reads, “Keep Out.”

Nara Visa was never big to begin with, but fewer than 100 people remain.

This near emptiness, however, has attracted a new business to the community, one that promises, like a honey-toned traveling salesman, to bring jobs — and maybe even a grocery store — by way of the nuclear waste industry.

The U.S. Department of Energy, Quay County and two energy development companies say the nation’s latest nuclear waste experiment could inject as much as $40 million into the county’s economy. Nara Visa residents just have to agree to let the companies drill a three-mile-deep borehole — seven times deeper than the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in Carlsbad — into the crystalline, granite crust of the earth a few miles outside of town, on land currently occupied by fat, black cattle.

Right now, the project is pegged as a scientific experiment, and the Department of Energy says no nuclear waste will be placed in the test borehole. Still, the ultimate goal is to find a permanent place to dispose of the ever-growing and deadly stockpile of spent nuclear fuel rods and high-level radioactive waste collected at nuclear reactors and nuclear weapons laboratories nationwide.

Until this year, no town in the United States had agreed to the proposal. But when the Quay County Commission approved the plan in October, it put Nara Visa on track to become the first.

Community buy-in

About seven miles outside Nara Visa, there is a small, gravel roadside park where semi-truck drivers pull off U.S. 54 to sleep. Below the earth, the granite is devoid of oil but just right for deep drilling.

These 10 acres belong to Louis and Elaine James, who’ve agreed to lease it to the government as a deep borehole test site.

“I think it’s exciting,” said Elaine James, 65. “A lot of the people’s concerns are what might happen in the future, because of the type of experiments they are doing, but basically it is just a science project.”

She raised four children in Nara Visa and said it would be nice for future generations to learn about fields outside of ranching, like science and math. “Kids are limited to what careers might be available because we don’t have industry.”

“For me, it’s kind of like our space program,” she continued. “A lot of people thought that was a waste of money, but so much of our technology and medical fields have benefited from the space program.”

As far as the nuclear waste component is concerned, Louis James, 69, said, “I have more of a problem with it sitting over at Pantex 100 miles away than I do with it being under the ground, because you know it will get you if they ever attack those spots.” He was referring to the Pantex Plant, a nuclear weapons assembly facility outside Amarillo, Texas.

While he doesn’t think the nuclear waste will necessarily come to Nara Visa, he said, “the atomic bomb has made us a free nation now, so it’s gotta be put somewhere.”

The test hole planned for the James’ property is meant to be just 8 1/2 inches wide but would go deep below ground, first through the water table and a mile through sediment before hitting the top of a crystalline rock layer. From there, the hole would be drilled another two miles into the Earth. This is the layer where nuclear waste would be stored, then sealed off with a steel casing and concrete to protect the environment and water in the mile span separating the waste from the land’s surface.

Utah-based DOSECC Exploration Services LLC and Enercon Federal Services, Inc., based in Atlanta, are developing the Nara Visa proposal and are one of four groups that have been granted the go-ahead from the Department of Energy for Phase 1 of the project. This is referred to as “community buy-in,” gaining not only public approval but also support for the project, and securing the land for the borehole site.

If DOSECC and Enercon win this bid, they will get $35 million over a five-year period to drill the first hole. The Department of Energy will grant an additional $50 million to drill a second, wider borehole, with a 17 1/2-inch diameter, if the first is successful.

Peter Mast, president of Enercon Federal Services, said the project could create 20 temporary jobs and between six and 12 permanent positions. At a public meeting in Nara Visa in October, he told residents that workers might need lodging, food and laundry services, which could create more jobs.

When the Quay County Commission approved the proposal Oct. 10, it emphasized that the project would encourage investment in the county and educational programs for citizens and public school students, and that, “at the end of the project, an effort will be made to turn this deep granite borehole into a permanent subsurface geologic observatory.”

State Rep. Dennis Roch, a Republican from the nearby village of Logan who is also the superintendent of the Logan Municipal Schools, said his science and math teachers are excited about the project, as are educators at Mesalands Community College in Tucumcari.

“The entire region could use a shot in the arm of federal dollars,” he said. “But I’m more interested in the educational opportunities.”


The borehole could create these opportunities by establishing a type of below-surface laboratory to study geology and geothermal energy. A nearly six-mile-deep borehole near Windischeschenbach, Germany, has been used in this way. Another exists in Russia.

Needs and concerns
Despite these promises, some residents in Nara Visa are skeptical, wondering why federal officials would spend so much money drilling a hole if they weren’t going to put nuclear waste in it.

“I don’t really know what to think,” another resident, Ada Niles, 76, said of the borehole project. She went to one of the community meetings held in Nara Visa in October by Enercon’s president, Mast, and said, “The guy talked like it’d be a good thing. Then the kids got on the computer. … If they are going to put nuclear waste in [the borehole], we don’t want it.”

Niles raises cattle, like most people in Nara Visa, and runs the Western Stars Motel, the only business in town aside from the post office. It, too, may close, she said. Mostly, it’s occupied by one or two temporary construction workers who rent by the week.

“That’s the main concern with the ranchers: Is it going to affect our cattle, is it going to affect our water?” she said. She is also concerned that drilling could cause more earthquakes, like the tremors Nara Visa had over the summer. Company officials say the sites were selected to avoid harming groundwater and hitting fault lines.


Waste piling up
As of 2010, there were at least 109,300 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste and spent fuel awaiting a final resting place, according to a study that year by researchers at Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque. In 1987, Congress agreed to put low-level, transuranic waste at WIPP and send much of this high-level waste to Yucca Mountain in Nevada, where it would be stored in tunnels mined into the mountain rock.

Meanwhile, WIPP, after being closed for nearly three years following the radiation leak, began depositing waste below ground for the first time this month. But the stagnation of waste disposal at these facilities had left the Energy Department scrambling for alternatives, and in 2012, deep boreholes resurfaced as a potential alternative, an idea that was first floated in the 1950s.

To store all of the waste sitting at 77 U.S. facilities, the Energy Department needs to drill 950 boreholes at an estimated $20 million per hole, or $71 billion for the entire project, including transportation, environmental reclamation, monitoring and site characterization, according to the 2010 Sandia study. In contrast, Yucca Mountain was estimated to cost $96 billion.

Greg Mello, director of the Los Alamos Study Group, a community watchdog, says the government should be more transparent about exactly what type of high-level nuclear waste would go in the holes: spent fuel rods, nuclear weapons waste or down-blended plutonium.

“Before anything like this should happen,” he said, “there should be meetings around the state so a lot more clarity can be brought to the process.”

Even in Nara Visa, residents said they are still unclear about the true implications of the proposal.

“What they are putting on paper makes sense,” said Sandra Evans. “But is it going to help us or hurt us?”

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'Scorpion' robot mission inside Fukushima reactor aborted

https://phys.org/news/2017-02-scorpion-robot-mission-fukushima-reactor.html

TEPCO, the operator of the Fukushima nuclear plant, sent the remote-controlled device into the No. 2 reactor where radiation levels have recently hit record highs.

The "scorpion" robot, so-called because it can lift up its camera-mounted tail to achieve better viewing angles, is also designed to crawl over rubble inside the damaged facility.

But it could not reach its target destination beneath a pressure vessel through which nuclear fuel is believed to have melted because the robot had difficulty moving, a company spokeswoman said.


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The robot, 60 centimetres (24 inches) long, is made by Toshiba and equipped with two cameras and sensors to gauge radiation levels and temperatures.

"Scorpion's mission is to take images of the situation and collect data inside the containment vessel," TEPCO spokesman Shinichi Nakakuki said earlier.


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Radiation levels inside the reactor were estimated last week at 650 sieverts per hour at one spot, which can effectively shut down robots in hours.

But the probe—designed to withstand up to 1,000 sieverts of radiation in total—would not sustain severe damage because it was unlikely to remain for too long at a single point, Nakakuki said.


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« Reply #509 on: Feb 19th, 2017, 12:50am »

Initial reports said the the amt of sieverts were OFF THE SCALE!
What is the Sievert reading on their meter.. This has to be well above 1000 sieverts. They are lying again to us and the Robots. Their is no oxygen to "burn" so its fission in
process. Can this explode..or just keep sizziling downward.

How many more unaware robots will we keep martyring for the cause?!
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The last robot RIP was made to withstand 1k.....they say it got stuck..if they were able to reproduce the levels..its obvious they can't they they really don't know.

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