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« Reply #210 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 09:56am »

on Mar 2nd, 2017, 09:01am, INT21 wrote:
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You want reasons why people do not like Trump ?

Substantial reasons ? Ok

He's a liar. He says things then denies he has said them.

He's an ex bankrupt. May still be one. We can't tell as he won't produce his tax records.

Anyone can get rich if you don't pay taxes and bills. If he can screw up his own finances why should the people trust him with the countries.

He is arrogant on a scale never seen in any other President.

He insults people to their face, to a level that is almost unbelievable if you didn't actually hear him saying it.
Then he turns around and says these same people are 'great people' how he loves them and they love him'

I suspect people like Hillary Clinton, Ted Cruz etc are thinking 'what an Ar**hole'.

This guy will bust America if he isn't kept on a very tight leash.

And the way he put that poor lady on the spot during his last speech was shameful. It was cruel beyond belief to use her loss as he did. And he dragged it out as long as possible then claimed 'another record.. Poor woman was wrecked.

He's a bastard.

But he's your bastard, you wanted him, you got him.

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You just can't argue with the liberal even one from the Muslim London.



Examples - site a few and even if you find an exaggeration is it significant? Or just another tidbit for the left to bite on?

Tax returns – so what, probably more complex than the average person could comprehend and probably the most scrutinized tax returns imagined. Just more fodder for the liberal left to make and distract as that's about all they seem to be able to do.

Next thing the're going to be talking about the size of his hands.

Why not investigate Hillary, Ben Ghazi, compromised emails. These are still significant issues which the left apparently seems to have forgotten.

What about Obama's influence to disrupt the Trump administration. It can go on and on but as I said talking to a liberal might be as productive as asking your dog who he voted for!
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« Reply #211 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 10:11am »

Thank you Gort.. very timely defense.

Yes Hal.. Gort came up with questions and statements that didn't even enter my mind when reading your post.

What did go through my mind was.. where is the evidence of any of this? Did you not know about Nixon's persona as well when it came to "arrogance". I think somehow, when we judge people "off the cuff" so to speak, like you do, it tends to be a reflection of the person doing the viewing, their perspective and their hang-ups..

I would never describe Trump as arrogant. He doesn't have an arrogant demeanor. Cameron was arrogant and petulant.

Trump is just trying to be the strong alfa male that he was elected to be. As far as your insinuations of his lying and rudeness and "using" a woman; I think fact checking and getting back to me when you can with facts that denote the serious attack on his character and not a one off bone picking witch hunting major storm in a tea cup please..

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« Reply #212 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 12:17pm »

Tommi,

....You just can't argue with the liberal even one from the Muslim London...

Must be you he's referring to.

Just look through all the available records of his appearances.

Look, I can stand any amount of political promises that probably won't be kept. Nothing new about that. All new brooms wish to start with a clean sweep.
Promise the Earth, get in, then work out how you will actually do it ? No issues there. Standard procedure.
It is the incessant bullying and his apparent opinion that he is God and the rest of the world best remember it that is the problem. His character is playing against him, and by extension against the country.

If you guys can't see the arrogance then there is no point in even talking about it.

Deflections by referring to Obama etc are really irrelevant as Obama is history.

The next 12 month will tell.

Believe it or not, I do wish you people a prosperous future. It helps everyone.
I just think you have made a huge mistake in electing Trump. You really do deserve better.

Even the Governor of the Fed isn't impressed. At least he didn't seem so on CNBC this afternoon. He seems to give the impression that he thinks the past years of steady improvement are about to be blown out of the water.

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« Reply #213 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 2:33pm »

U.S. Attorney General --- RACIST GOON PIG --- Jeff Sessions must resign because of perjury under oath during his confirmation hearing in front of Congress!!



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on Mar 2nd, 2017, 12:17pm, INT21 wrote:
Deflections by referring to Obama etc are really irrelevant as Obama is history.



So naïve, if that were only true.

http://www.infowars.com/obamas-organizing-for-action-partners-with-soros-linked-indivisible-to-disrupt-trumps-agenda/
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BREAKING: SESSIONS RECUSES HIMSELF FROM ANY "FUTURE INVESTIGATIONS OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN"





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« Reply #217 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 3:59pm »

Jeff Sessions was the Alabama senator in 1999, that went hard after Bill Clinton for committing perjury during the Republican investigation into Bill's tryst with Monica Lewinsky.






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« Reply #218 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 4:03pm »

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/02/amid-russia-uproar-sessions-gets-boost-from-senate-allies-and-dem-s-twitter-flub.html



Several senators on both sides of the aisle rushed to back Attorney General Jeff Sessions Thursday as he sought to blunt resignation calls from senior Democrats, following revelations he met last year with Russia's ambassador – a detail omitted from recent congressional testimony.
His defenders say such meetings between senators and diplomats were routine. And Sessions even got an inadvertent boost from Democratic Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, who in demanding the AG's resignation initially claimed she never called or met with Russia's ambassador -- only for tweets to surface indicating she had, at least twice.
Other former colleagues intentionally came to Sessions' defense, backing the former Alabama senator's claim he only met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in his official capacity as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
“I’ve met with the Russian ambassador with a group, in my capacity, with a group of other senators,” Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., told CNN. “That’s in my official capacity. That’s nothing. That’s my job.”
Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said in a statement that he’d talked to “at least twenty ambassadors in the last six weeks.”
“It would have been very normal for Sessions, as a senator, to have talked to the Russian ambassador without discussing the election,” Blunt said.
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said on MSNBC that he’d met with “six ambassadors in the last five months.” Though he hadn’t met with Kislyak, Cruz said he would do so without reservations.
The statements of support came as other lawmakers -- including the two top-ranking Democrats, Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Chuck Schumer -- demanded Sessions' resignation.
The calls came in the wake of The Washington Post first reporting that Sessions met with Kislyak in July and September, despite testimony during his confirmation hearing that he had never spoken with Russian officials during the time he was a campaign surrogate for then-GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump.
Sessions is maintaining he never discussed campaign matters with the Russian ambassador, and the White House has backed him.
Sessions, while an Alabama senator, in fact met often with ambassadors from a variety of countries, according to a schedule provided to Fox News by a Department of Justice spokesperson. From April 14 through Nov. 11, Sessions had 30 meetings with ambassadors, including four with the ambassador for Great Britain. The day before then-Sen. Sessions met with Kislyak on Sept. 8, he took a meeting with Ukraine Ambassador Valeriy Chaly. Though it’s unclear what was discussed, the back-to-back meetings occurred a week before Russia accepted a unilateral ceasefire plan in Ukraine on behalf of the separatist rebels it backs there.
Seeking to drive a stake into Sessions’ defense, however, McCaskill tweeted Thursday she had “been on the Armed Services Com for 10 years. No call or meeting w/Russian ambassador. Ever. Ambassadors call members of Foreign Rel Com.”


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Except, that’s not quite true.
In a pair of tweets first unearthed by National Review’s Charles C.W. Cooke, McCaskill twice wrote messages about meetings with Kislyak, in 2013 and 2015.
“Off to meeting w/Russian Ambassador. Upset about the arbitrary/cruel decision to end all U.S. adoptions, even those in process,” McCaskill tweeted on Jan. 30, 2013.

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On Aug. 6, 2015, McCaskill wrote: “Today calls with British, Russian, and German ambassadors re: Iran deal. #doingmyhomework.”

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McCaskill later blamed Twitter's character limit for the seeming disparity in her tweets, suggesting the limit prevented her from being more specific in Thursday's tweet. She downplayed the significance of her own conversations with Russia's ambassador.
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« Reply #220 on: Mar 2nd, 2017, 6:28pm »

Don't you see how this is muck racking and not productive to any progress?

As far as Hal's comments above, you are accusing the president of not following through on his campaign promises? That is all he has been doing, and in record time.

And where at all are your facts or evidence of the following:

"It is the incessant bullying and his apparent opinion that he is God and the rest of the world best remember it that is the problem. His character is playing against him, and by extension against the country."

This is subjective and if you can't see that....

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« Reply #221 on: Mar 3rd, 2017, 07:08am »

on Mar 2nd, 2017, 4:03pm, MrGort wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/02/amid-russia-uproar-sessions-gets-boost-from-senate-allies-and-dem-s-twitter-flub.html



Several senators on both sides of the aisle rushed to back Attorney General Jeff Sessions Thursday as he sought to blunt resignation calls from senior Democrats, following revelations he met last year with Russia's ambassador – a detail omitted from recent congressional testimony.
His defenders say such meetings between senators and diplomats were routine. And Sessions even got an inadvertent boost from Democratic Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, who in demanding the AG's resignation initially claimed she never called or met with Russia's ambassador -- only for tweets to surface indicating she had, at least twice.
Other former colleagues intentionally came to Sessions' defense, backing the former Alabama senator's claim he only met with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in his official capacity as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
“I’ve met with the Russian ambassador with a group, in my capacity, with a group of other senators,” Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., told CNN. “That’s in my official capacity. That’s nothing. That’s my job.”
Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said in a statement that he’d talked to “at least twenty ambassadors in the last six weeks.”
“It would have been very normal for Sessions, as a senator, to have talked to the Russian ambassador without discussing the election,” Blunt said.
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, said on MSNBC that he’d met with “six ambassadors in the last five months.” Though he hadn’t met with Kislyak, Cruz said he would do so without reservations.
The statements of support came as other lawmakers -- including the two top-ranking Democrats, Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Chuck Schumer -- demanded Sessions' resignation.
The calls came in the wake of The Washington Post first reporting that Sessions met with Kislyak in July and September, despite testimony during his confirmation hearing that he had never spoken with Russian officials during the time he was a campaign surrogate for then-GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump.
Sessions is maintaining he never discussed campaign matters with the Russian ambassador, and the White House has backed him.
Sessions, while an Alabama senator, in fact met often with ambassadors from a variety of countries, according to a schedule provided to Fox News by a Department of Justice spokesperson. From April 14 through Nov. 11, Sessions had 30 meetings with ambassadors, including four with the ambassador for Great Britain. The day before then-Sen. Sessions met with Kislyak on Sept. 8, he took a meeting with Ukraine Ambassador Valeriy Chaly. Though it’s unclear what was discussed, the back-to-back meetings occurred a week before Russia accepted a unilateral ceasefire plan in Ukraine on behalf of the separatist rebels it backs there.
Seeking to drive a stake into Sessions’ defense, however, McCaskill tweeted Thursday she had “been on the Armed Services Com for 10 years. No call or meeting w/Russian ambassador. Ever. Ambassadors call members of Foreign Rel Com.”


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Except, that’s not quite true.
In a pair of tweets first unearthed by National Review’s Charles C.W. Cooke, McCaskill twice wrote messages about meetings with Kislyak, in 2013 and 2015.
“Off to meeting w/Russian Ambassador. Upset about the arbitrary/cruel decision to end all U.S. adoptions, even those in process,” McCaskill tweeted on Jan. 30, 2013.

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Off to meeting w/Russian Ambassador. Upset about the arbitrary/cruel decision to end all US adoptions,even those in process.
10:25 AM - 30 Jan 2013




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On Aug. 6, 2015, McCaskill wrote: “Today calls with British, Russian, and German ambassadors re: Iran deal. #doingmyhomework.”

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Today calls with British, Russian, and German Ambassadors re: Iran deal. #doingmyhomework
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McCaskill later blamed Twitter's character limit for the seeming disparity in her tweets, suggesting the limit prevented her from being more specific in Thursday's tweet. She downplayed the significance of her own conversations with Russia's ambassador.


Thanks for adding, I totally get that Gort, so I think the finer question is whether he lied to his Congress (I suspect no, in the narrow legalistic sense) and did he present the precise version of facts he did IN ORDER TO MISLEAD, which if true arguably would be worse?

Could he be accused not of being a liar, but of being disingenious / devious...

(which'll do the atmosphere between Dems and Reps no good at all, but is ultimately survivable for Sessions. Just asking...)


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on Mar 3rd, 2017, 07:08am, purr wrote:
Thanks for adding, I totally get that Gort, so I think the finer question is whether he lied to his Congress (I suspect no, in the narrow legalistic sense) and did he present the precise version of facts he did IN ORDER TO MISLEAD, which if true arguably would be worse?

Could he be accused not of being a liar, but of being disingenious / devious...

(which'll do the atmosphere between Dems and Reps no good at all, but is ultimately survivable for Sessions. Just asking...)


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Al Franken was a former SNL performer. At best he is a bad joke.
He and the Dems are on a fishing expedition. Anything and everything they can do to thwart Trump is they’re sole goal. They are an embarrassment. Maybe we should be discussing what “is” is.
You need to see the context of Al Franken’s rambling question. And Sessions provided an appropriate answer to such a BS question, but he probably should’ve said that without the information he couldn’t comment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BpgHcanjCQ


http://video.foxnews.com/v/5346071031001/?#sp=show-clips

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/03/sessions-not-alone-russian-ambassador-also-met-with-numerous-democrats.html


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on Mar 2nd, 2017, 09:56am, MrGort wrote:
You just can't argue with the liberal even one from the Muslim London.



Examples - site a few and even if you find an exaggeration is it significant? Or just another tidbit for the left to bite on?

Tax returns – so what, probably more complex than the average person could comprehend and probably the most scrutinized tax returns imagined. Just more fodder for the liberal left to make and distract as that's about all they seem to be able to do.

Next thing the're going to be talking about the size of his hands.

Why not investigate Hillary, Ben Ghazi, compromised emails. These are still significant issues which the left apparently seems to have forgotten.

What about Obama's influence to disrupt the Trump administration. It can go on and on but as I said talking to a liberal might be as productive as asking your dog who he voted for!



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« Reply #224 on: Mar 3rd, 2017, 2:48pm »

"And as for sounding presidential, how about this passage? 'Free nations are the best vehicle for expressing the will of the people, and America respects the right of all nations to chart there own path. My job is not to represent the world. My job is to represent the United States of America.'

All recent presidents have focused instead on the inalienable human rights of individuals and have criticized governments whose 'own path' is to trample those rights. All recent presidents have believed the United States can and must play a special role in the world as a beacon of freedom.

Trump said he wants an America 'not burdened by our fears' --- after spending an hour stoking those fears. Even when he uses his indoor voice, he doesn't sound much like a president."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/people/eugene-robinson/?utm_term=.b6a68cf46f98

selected quotes: "Nothing 'presidential' about Trump's speech" --- Eugene Robinson - Friday, March 3, 2017 - Washington Post
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