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« Thread started on: Jun 3rd, 2017, 5:35pm »

Tommi,

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« Reply #1 on: Jun 3rd, 2017, 5:52pm »

on Jun 3rd, 2017, 5:35pm, INT21 wrote:
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You ok ?

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Yes Tommi please let us know you are okay.

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« Reply #2 on: Jun 3rd, 2017, 6:19pm »

Thanks for asking ! My God.. we are under siege it feels like.

I'm fine at home but this is just unreal. 3 different areas are under attack with nobody caught and large areas closed down in central London.

Edit to add: Now they are saying it was two areas, but of course we really don't know much yet.

This is really going to have an effect .. in so many ways, esp with the election coming up next week.

London can't have this happening like this .. becoming more frequent, it feels so vulnerable.


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« Reply #3 on: Jun 3rd, 2017, 7:58pm »

Glad your ok.

Looks as if it's over now.

At least two of the three shot by police. One had canisters strapped around him.

It seems the Vauxhall thing may not have been linked.

Don't worry, could be weeks before it happens again.

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« Reply #4 on: Jun 4th, 2017, 09:37am »

Thanks for letting us know you are okay Tommi.

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« Reply #5 on: Jun 5th, 2017, 4:40pm »

London really needs to Vet the officers they hire. Runing away and leaving the populace to fend for themselves is unconscionable. At least one brave soul dove right in and fought them and did really well for his effort!

Touting that it only took 8 minutes to contain the problem doesn't do much for the victims. In 8 minutes they ruined the lives of way to many including one poor American who got hit in the head with a stray (not the officers fault.)! In this day and age an unarmed officer of the law is nothing more than a person in a funny hat and vest!

When a person in one minute is serving you food and the next is next to your plate trying to cut you up instead of your steak, and never knowing which one it will be,it makes me so glad for our rights to be armed.

Until the British Parliament stops worrying about offending people who are doing their very best to subjugate your lives and government, you are doomed to fail!

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« Reply #6 on: Jun 5th, 2017, 5:26pm »

I have a question for you folks from the U.K.:

Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan was born in Tooting, South London to a working-class Sunni Muslim family of Pakistani immigrants. He is a practicing Muslim, and regularly attends Al-Muzzammil Mosque in Tooting.

Khan received death threats from extremists after voting in favour of the same-sex marriage equality bill. He was also threatened by the far-right group Britain First, which in 2016 threatened to take "direct action" against Khan where he "lives, works and prays" as part of an anti-Muslim campaign.

Everything I read about him tends to indicate he is a pretty decent human being, regardless of the Tweeting bs that President Trump initiated...

However, as a British politician, and as a member of the "peaceful Muslim Majority", what has he said and what has he done to help stop the "Fanatical Terrorist Muslim Minority"?

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« Reply #7 on: Jun 5th, 2017, 6:00pm »

He has deep roots within radical groups from his past, including the Muslim Brotherhood. This escapes the minds of most voters who up to now, probably shrugged the whole history of his associations off.

But that is the same with Corbyn who is heading up Labour and running against May. Deep roots with terrorist associations, esp with the IRA and Corbyn's radical socialist past affiliations.

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« Reply #8 on: Jun 5th, 2017, 6:13pm »

on Jun 5th, 2017, 4:40pm, LoneGunMan wrote:
London really needs to Vet the officers they hire. Runing away and leaving the populace to fend for themselves is unconscionable. At least one brave soul dove right in and fought them and did really well for his effort!

Touting that it only took 8 minutes to contain the problem doesn't do much for the victims. In 8 minutes they ruined the lives of way to many including one poor American who got hit in the head with a stray (not the officers fault.)! In this day and age an unarmed officer of the law is nothing more than a person in a funny hat and vest!

When a person in one minute is serving you food and the next is next to your plate trying to cut you up instead of your steak, and never knowing which one it will be,it makes me so glad for our rights to be armed.

Until the British Parliament stops worrying about offending people who are doing their very best to subjugate your lives and government, you are doomed to fail!

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We (citizens) carry and conceal.

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« Reply #9 on: Jun 5th, 2017, 6:20pm »

...However, as a British politician, and as a member of the "peaceful Muslim Majority", what has he said and what has he done to help stop the "Fanatical Terrorist Muslim Minority"? ..

Who knows ?

You guys still have the KKK and it has been around much longer than isis.

Politicians don't really have much power to stop this kind of thing. It is down to the believers to stop believing.

The only people who can really make a difference is the religious hierarchy.

If people really want to believe there is such a thing as God and a place called heaven and think that they can achieve eternal pleasure by killing themselves to get to it then there is little that can be done.

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« Reply #10 on: Jun 5th, 2017, 6:40pm »

every god fearing christian should buy one and walk with one of these on a leash when they go out and tethered at major infrastructure..there..thats my contribution

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« Reply #11 on: Jun 5th, 2017, 9:22pm »

Yes, Hal, the KKK still exists, but they KNOW they can't go around killing people. They KNOW it won't be tolerated by peace-loving Christians and by our laws. They do NOT go around cutting the heads off of women and children.

When almost fifty gays were killed at the Pulse nightclub, we even had a "Christian" pastor say, "Too bad he didn't kill more of them." But he KNOWS the majority of Christians WILL NOT TOLERATE such activity.

But in the case of Islam, the "peace-loving Muslim majority" has not stepped up and put a stop to this atrocious behavior. The terrorism by Muslim extremists is the direct result of the preaching of "extremist clerics". They must put these devils out of business.

The longer "peaceful" Muslims of the world allow this to continue, the more and more people will come to believe that deep down inside, those peaceful Muslims condone Jihad of the sword.

That is why I think it is important for the U.K. to understand where Sadiq Khan fits in all of this.

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« Reply #12 on: Jun 6th, 2017, 12:55am »

What is really getting to me is how on BBC and other media, there are pundits now finally calling it what it is, Islamic terrorism (probably thanks to Trump's influence at not being so PC about all of this)..

But then they all add.. (and here is where it makes you think you are in an alternative reality) "Islam at its core is a peaceful religion and this is a twisted aberration of this great religion".

Then what about the history of Islam before the Crusades were called to rescue much of Europe and the Holy lands from Islamic control?

634-644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al-Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.

635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus.

636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.

637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636).

638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.

638-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.

639-642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.

641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.

643-707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.

644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.

644-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.

656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib, son-in-law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophetís daughter Fatima through his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.

656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammadís wife, leads a rebellion against Ali for not avenging Uthmanís assassination. Aliís partisans win.

657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes against Ali

661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Aliís supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.

661-680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from Medina to Damascus

673-678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire

680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammadís grandson), his family, and his supporters in Karbala, Iraq.

691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammadís death.

705 Abd al-Malik restores Umayyad rule.

710-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.

711-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. This article recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.

719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governorship.

732 The Muslim Crusaders are stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance.

749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids.

756 Foundation of Umayyid emirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids.

762 Foundation of Baghdad

785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova

789 Rise of Idrisid emirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.

800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia.

807 Caliph Harun al-Rashid orders the destruction of non-Muslim prayer houses and of the Church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.

809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy.

813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country.

831 Muslim Crusaders capture of Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy.

850 Caliph al-Matawakkil orders the destruction of non-Muslim houses of prayer.

855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)

837-901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France.

869-883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq

909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia.

928-969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969).

937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting of his control over the holy places.

937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked .

960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam

966 Anti-Christian riots in Jerusalem

969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo.

c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East.

973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids.

1003 First persecutions by al-Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed.

1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al-Hakim (see 937)

1012 Beginning of al-Hakimís oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians

1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses.

1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties throughout Muslim Andalus

1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed

1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (also known as Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.

1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate.

1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection

1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia.

1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine.

1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)

1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia.

1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana.

1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies.

1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca.

1090-1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands.

1094 Byzantine Emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins; see 970.

1095 Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099

So it is only after all of the Islamic aggressive invasions that western Christendom launches its first Crusades.




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« Reply #13 on: Jun 6th, 2017, 01:54am »

Here, embedded in this tweet, is a video of the London Mayor as a solicitor in 02, defending terrorists:

https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/871933226935341056

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« Reply #14 on: Jun 6th, 2017, 09:25am »

on Jun 6th, 2017, 01:54am, tommi01 wrote:
Here, embedded in this tweet, is a video of the London Mayor as a solicitor in 02, defending terrorists:

https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/871933226935341056



You have your Sadiq Khan, and we had (and still have) Obama. These liberal Democrats have such a distorted sense of reality. They donít even understand hypocrisy, Bob Beckel, Bill Maher, Kathy Griffin, Reality, Al Gore and of course the Hillary brigade and a list too long to mention. At least Trump is trying to clean up the swamp.
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