Board Logo
« Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of US »

Welcome Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 23rd, 2017, 4:09pm


Visit the UFO Casebook Web Site

*Totally FREE 24/7 Access *Your Nickname and Avatar *Private Messages

*Join today and be a part of one of the largest UFO sites on the Net.


« Previous Topic | Next Topic »
Pages: 1 2 3 4  Notify Send Topic Print
 veryhotthread  Author  Topic: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of US  (Read 2075 times)
purr
Global Moderator
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

..you talkin' to me...YOU TALKIN' TO ME..??!


PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 4828
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #45 on: Aug 24th, 2017, 1:18pm »

on Aug 24th, 2017, 12:50pm, Erno86 wrote:
Brennan Gilmore: "And they're forces that once they are sort of --- once the Pandora's box of racism is opened up, it can spiral out of control very quickly."

Source: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/witness-charlottesville-death-threats-conspiracy-theories


Thanks Erno86, great find. Of course mr. Gilmore's opinion on Charlottesville may offer some insight, however his video is potentially vital police evidence showing James Field's real world actions. Vital enough to embed it below for readers/members to view.









purr
« Last Edit: Aug 24th, 2017, 1:29pm by purr » User IP Logged

Let us be sure that those who come after will say of us in our time, that in our time we did everything that could be done. We finished the race; we kept them free; we kept the faith.

-RONALD REAGAN
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #46 on: Aug 25th, 2017, 2:40pm »

User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #47 on: Aug 26th, 2017, 2:18pm »




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUw9E-xsKBU
« Last Edit: Aug 26th, 2017, 2:21pm by Erno86 » User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #48 on: Aug 26th, 2017, 3:31pm »

When the white supremacists/neo-Nazis/KKK'ers marched in Charlottesville last week {the march was organized months ago}, there marching chants were directed against the Jews, and not about protesting the Confederate statues being removed from the public's eye.

That contradicts Trump's claim, that these protesters were protesting against the Confederate statues being removed.

Source: A female Vice news reporter, who was present at the Charlottesville protest.
« Last Edit: Aug 26th, 2017, 3:57pm by Erno86 » User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #49 on: Sep 2nd, 2017, 1:28pm »

"In the last days of the Obama presidency, the Department of Homeland Security awarded a $400,000 grant to Life After Hate, a nonprofit dedicated to helping right-wing extremists move away from radical ideas.

Five months later, the organization learned that the Trump administration had rescinded its funding. In light of the violence in Charlottesville, this decision appears tragically shortsighted. It also underlines the indifference of President Trump and his administration toward the problem of far-right violence."

excerpt quote: "Giving right-wing extremists a pass" --- WaPo - Friday, September 1, 2017
User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
purr
Global Moderator
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

..you talkin' to me...YOU TALKIN' TO ME..??!


PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 4828
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #50 on: Sep 12th, 2017, 10:30am »

on Aug 26th, 2017, 3:31pm, Erno86 wrote:
When the white supremacists/neo-Nazis/KKK'ers marched in Charlottesville last week {the march was organized months ago}, there marching chants were directed against the Jews, and not about protesting the Confederate statues being removed from the public's eye.

That contradicts Trump's claim, that these protesters were protesting against the Confederate statues being removed.

Source: A female Vice news reporter, who was present at the Charlottesville protest.


Ha Erno, I was enjoying your selection of funny vids as always! But to your post (not to put too fine a point on things) I'd say the right wing chanters (according to CNN commentators) were aiming at the Jews ("...will not replace us") as well as US blacks (as in "You will not replace us"). Which is clearly racist reasoning (juxtapositioning Jews and Africans against "us"=Caucasians/US whites).

Here's that fine point: chants as shown were phrased defensively, as if protesting in fear of being replaced by Jews/Blacks. Which I believe stays narrowly within US free speech law, falling precisely short of for instance hate speech. In America you may say you fear anything you like.

The above imo doesn't contradict these fine[sic] people at the same time strenuously objecting against the removal of Lee's sculpture (and similar statues), or Trump parroting such motives, statements he undoubtedly got from media coverage of the Charlottesville events, like you, me, folks everywhere.

Again, there is nothing illegal (within US legal context) about the chants (as far as shown on telly) or about rallying to preserve the general's sculpture, so the President was within his right to blame many or two sides (for committing assault), plus empathize with confederate heritage, plus pointing out those "fine people" among the Unite the Right protesters. cheesy But I freely admit he (arguably) spoke to a degree in error, presuming on the fineness of some/any of the White Supremacist/Nazi protesters (not too fine after all), while the 'sides' reference may have been among the most polarizing statements he ever made, to date that is.

Isn't it time Americans ought to consider changing/amending the Law, even constitutional free speech rights? Why not place these groups, including well armed militias(!), outside of the law?

I submit to you that if James Fields Jr. hadn't driven his car into the left wing protesters (elevating this protest to potentially terrorism and murder) the Charlottesville events had amounted to a disturbance, some skirmishes and Donald Trump ending up with his foot in his mouth. Which seems to be just where he likes it.


purr
« Last Edit: Sep 12th, 2017, 10:42am by purr » User IP Logged

Let us be sure that those who come after will say of us in our time, that in our time we did everything that could be done. We finished the race; we kept them free; we kept the faith.

-RONALD REAGAN
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #51 on: Sep 27th, 2017, 3:09pm »

User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #52 on: Oct 11th, 2017, 4:26pm »

"Baltimore, Maryland 'Grand Wizard' klansman tried to rebrand the KKK, now he awaits trial for shooting his pistol at a black man; at the first Charlottesville alt-right/alt-light rally."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-richard-preston-20171004-story.html

"Klan Leader Shoots At Black Man...Cops Don't Budge"

« Last Edit: Oct 11th, 2017, 4:31pm by Erno86 » User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
purr
Global Moderator
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar

..you talkin' to me...YOU TALKIN' TO ME..??!


PM

Gender: Female
Posts: 4828
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #53 on: Oct 12th, 2017, 03:04am »

on Oct 11th, 2017, 4:26pm, Erno86 wrote:
"Baltimore, Maryland 'Grand Wizard' klansman tried to rebrand the KKK, now he awaits trial for shooting his pistol at a black man; at the first Charlottesville alt-right/alt-light rally."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-richard-preston-20171004-story.html

"Klan Leader Shoots At Black Man...Cops Don't Budge"



I am sure we agree on the KKK's ideas being despicable (and U.S. law for better or worse offers these groups and their ideologies a degree of protection), however Erno86, the embedded vid shows what appears to be at least two opposing groups engaged in skirmishing. There's a anti-fascist protester igniting a spray can, turning it into makeshift flamethrower, an improvised weapon capable of causing injury and death. The KKK guy, Richard Wilson Preston Jr. then fired one shot in the approximate direction of the spray can protester. Preston (the vid reports) is charged with discharging his weapon within 1000 ft. of a school. Good smiley. Could this modest charge be the result of the "black man" shot at (or actually shot!) not coming forward to the authorities?

In short, the footage illustrates that President Trump was factually and legally in the right when he blamed two sides for the violence. Again, serious doubt is cast on any 'very fine people' participating in that UtR rally. With James Fields murder/terror attack added in the mix of Trump's abrasive style of addressing America, this might have been the ultimate political nightmare for the US president. But then he said and did something worse, followed by something even more outrageous etc. etc.. Losing track and count over here, Erno, although the threat of totally annihilating North Korea kinda stuck in my mind tongue. This is Trump's strategy, method to the madness, and it seems to work sofar.... but I pray to God he won't goad/bluff/blunder your country (plus by extension America's allies, esp. S-Korea) into for real thermonuclear war with the rocketman.


purr
« Last Edit: Oct 12th, 2017, 03:09am by purr » User IP Logged

Let us be sure that those who come after will say of us in our time, that in our time we did everything that could be done. We finished the race; we kept them free; we kept the faith.

-RONALD REAGAN
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #54 on: Oct 14th, 2017, 09:41am »

"Baltimore KKK Leader Is Denied Bail"

http://www.baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/rosedale-kkk-leader-who-fired-pistol-at-va-hate-rally-denied-bail

« Last Edit: Oct 14th, 2017, 10:05am by Erno86 » User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
Cliff-67
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 1942
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #55 on: Oct 14th, 2017, 10:35am »


Good eye Purr !

It appears from what is seen in the video to be self defense.


Cliff



User IP Logged

NEE NED ZB 6TNN DEIBEDH SIEFI EBEEE SSIEI ESEE SEEE !!
Erno86
Gold Member
ImageImageImageImageImage


member is offline

Avatar




PM

Gender: Male
Posts: 3061
xx Re: Honesty: Charlottesville, J A Fields + Pres of
« Reply #56 on: Oct 14th, 2017, 10:57am »

Confederacy: Last Week Tonight - With John Oliver


User IP Logged

"It would be unsatisfactory, in my opinion, if a world without matter were possible."

Albert Einstein
Pages: 1 2 3 4  Notify Send Topic Print
« Previous Topic | Next Topic »

Become a member of the UFO Casebook Forum today and join our more than 19,000 members.

Visit the UFO Casebook Web Site

Donate $6.99 for 50,000 Ad-Free Pageviews!

| |

This forum powered for FREE by Conforums ©
Sign up for your own Free Message Board today!
Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | Conforums Support | Parental Controls