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« Reply #9 on: Nov 30th, 2013, 9:47pm »

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« Reply #10 on: Dec 3rd, 2013, 2:23pm »

Gus,

Great job with this thread! This is something I would have expected to see at my old stomping grounds, space.com, which has gone the way of the Dodo. As I get more time I'll try to add comments regarding each video if something jumps out at me.

Thanks for posting!

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« Reply #11 on: Dec 8th, 2013, 4:54pm »

There have been many sightings that, while unusual and unidentified, seemingly could be ours if we have made a few unannounced scientific breakthroughs. The first include the UFOs of the Belgium flap which were described as both triangular and rectangular. They were silent, could hover, and accelerated at unusually high rates. Others were the Hudson Valley objects (at least one was a large boomerang), and numerous sightings of triangles in the Midwestern United States. The Phoenix Lights case also included a similar object, another boomerang that was reportedly up to a mile wide. The Stephenville, Texas UFO was more or less rectangular in shape and reportedly the size of a football field.

Often these objects were reported to have large lights on the underside. Triangles are usually described as having lights at the three tips with a larger reddish light at the center. The Hudson Valley boomerang reportedly had large red-lighted areas on the underside. The lights don't appear to be the typical navigation lights found on aircraft; red, green, and white.

Here are a couple of images of unknown craft captured on video.

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One appears to be a triangle while the other has a more conventional configuration. What they have in common are a series of large lighted areas. It seems unlikely that these lights are for identification. Obviously something intended to be secret wouldn't be lit up like a Christmas tree. Rather, the lights seem to be distributed in a manner that suggests they could be the source of lift. Also note that they are not points of light, but large, lighted disks.

Are some or all of the sightings I've mentioned actually ours? If so then we apparently know more about gravity and inertia than is publicly known.

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« Reply #12 on: Dec 8th, 2013, 5:05pm »

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« Reply #13 on: Dec 8th, 2013, 6:21pm »

Hey Z,

The pics are screenshots from a YouTube vid that I've posted here a few times. The one with the green background was taken with night vision equipment, and it looks to be moving at a high rate of speed based on the stars that are passing in the background.

That one also has an overall shape very similar to the current U.S. Air Force insignia. I wonder...

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« Reply #14 on: Dec 9th, 2013, 6:54pm »

on Nov 30th, 2013, 9:47pm, GusB wrote:

AlienScientist of YT has been posting new iterations on this topic for years. He does a great job on his videos, but there's a bit of pseudoscience going on here. There is no proof that gravity works as he describes. We still do not understand gravity, although one theory says that an elementary particle called the graviton is the key. It has yet to be discovered.

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« Reply #15 on: Dec 9th, 2013, 10:05pm »

Hi Flat

Thanks for the insight. The thread is about what we have, not what possible theories. I have an interest in Alien Scientist but no interest in unproven theories.

Do you know of any information in regards to gravity that might help expand the topic?

Thanks again.

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« Reply #16 on: Dec 10th, 2013, 4:55pm »

Gus,

Apparently some have claimed to know a thing or two about it. One person in particular, Wilbert Smith, a Canadian scientist who lived during the beginning of the UFO era, became interested in studying how flying disks worked. Early on he theorized that these objects used the Earth's magnetic field for propulsion, and he believed we were about to realize a major breakthrough in new technology. He is credited with making this statement in 1959:

"We know that gravity is not all Newton visualised.  Far from being a basic force in nature, it is really a derived function, and is the consequence of a dynamic condition, not a static one.  We know what goes into its makeup; we know its formula and we have a pretty good idea of how to go about bringing  it under control.  We have conducted experiments that show that it is possible to create artificial gravity (not Centrifugal force) and to alter the gravitational field of the Earth.  This we have done.  It is Fact. The next step is to learn the rules and do the engineering necessary to convert the principle into workable hardware." 

If he was right, then perhaps we do know how to build a UFO with what we know. It might explain some of the objects that have been reported in more recent times.

Here's a link to the article.

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The warp drive theory to small working machine to NASA working on it. Worth a look at.

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« Reply #18 on: Dec 30th, 2013, 9:52pm »

The descriptions that the scientists are talking about are what we observe with ET UFOs.

ET UFOs have worked out how to travel huge distances in what seem to be a large range of sizes.

With no noticeable engines on ET UFOs the idea of a device on either side of the cigar shaped craft makes sense. With negative energy being being expanded on one side and contracted on the other.

This in turn would create a bubble like a magnetic field strong enough to protect the craft from radiation.

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« Reply #19 on: Dec 31st, 2013, 12:57pm »

I agree, Gus. It appears that ET has learned how to create a bubble of isolated space-time around their craft that not only allows them to travel beyond light speed, but isolates them from the effects of gravity and inertia. Yes, it may also protect them from radiation and perhaps particles of matter as well. Based on eyewitness reports, these objects are self-illuminating which may be caused by the atmosphere (or normal space?) interacting with the “bubble”. Some have reported disks “stacking” on each other to form long cylindrical objects which perhaps is a configuration for long distance/interstellar travel. Lots of speculation to be sure, but there's not much to go on.

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« Reply #20 on: Jan 1st, 2014, 06:04am »

on Dec 31st, 2013, 12:57pm, Flat wrote:
I agree, Gus. It appears that ET has learned how to create a bubble of isolated space-time around their craft that not only allows them to travel beyond light speed, but isolates them from the effects of gravity and inertia. Yes, it may also protect them from radiation and perhaps particles of matter as well. Based on eyewitness reports, these objects are self-illuminating which may be caused by the atmosphere (or normal space?) interacting with the “bubble”. Some have reported disks “stacking” on each other to form long cylindrical objects which perhaps is a configuration for long distance/interstellar travel. Lots of speculation to be sure, but there's not much to go on.

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I think if NASA pursues this they will look at the shapes of UFOs that appear and disappear.

Quantum physics has said that a shape that could go through a Black Hole energy was a cylinder. What shapes we see most often is ET UFOs that are cylinder and cigar and not what NASA is currently proposing.

It is speculation at the end of the day but Mayans and Aboriginals never knew what a large sail boat could look like. Once they saw one and "if" they wanted to follow them they would have had a good design to refer to.

But the devil is in the detail and not one ET race has explained to abductees how we can make warp drive. We have the technology but Negative Space Energy is what we need to manipulate.

Its very interesting.

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 1st, 2014, 10:10pm »

on Jan 1st, 2014, 06:04am, GusB wrote:
I think if NASA pursues this they will look at the shapes of UFOs that appear and disappear.

Quantum physics has said that a shape that could go through a Black Hole energy was a cylinder. What shapes we see most often is ET UFOs that are cylinder and cigar and not what NASA is currently proposing.

It is speculation at the end of the day but Mayans and Aboriginals never knew what a large sail boat could look like. Once they saw one and "if" they wanted to follow them they would have had a good design to refer to.

But the devil is in the detail and not one ET race has explained to abductees how we can make warp drive. We have the technology but Negative Space Energy is what we need to manipulate.

Its very interesting.

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I read in one of Vallee's books that ET did tell an abductee how their craft worked, but it turned out to be nonsense. Was it a case of deception by ET or a crazy person claiming to be an abductee? smiley

Observation is important. Ruppelt said in his book that they were planning to set up imaging spectrometers (he called them cameras that measured light) where UFOs were most often observed. It was expensive so apparently they never did it. Too bad. Possibly the light these objects emitted would have revealed important clues.

One case in the '50s involved an intelligence gathering military plane. An object followed it for a period of time and they happened to have equipment on board that picked up faint signals from it. The crew didn't say if they recorded the encounter. I imagine there were other opportunities to learn about UFOs over the years. If they didn't capitalize at the time they were just lost opportunities to learn about them.

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« Reply #22 on: Jan 1st, 2014, 10:55pm »

There was talk that massive military exercises were being held by the superpowers to attract UFOs. I would of hoped that they did try to study the light that came from these ET craft. There must be countless military studies into what drives ET craft that will never see the light of day. Such a pity.

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