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« Reply #195 on: Aug 8th, 2009, 2:07pm »

thanx murnut what else do you know about project sg-1? or anything about the time gate?
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« Reply #196 on: Aug 17th, 2009, 04:45am »

What I don't like about all the Area 51 theories is the fact they differ way too much. There are of course a lot of secret and hidden things going on, but what these things are, is unclear, even though there are many people who claim to know. So I'm not very interested in these theories since the chance they actually have any factual value is very small and even in case I read something that is true, I don't know it.
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« Reply #197 on: Aug 23rd, 2009, 11:55pm »

It would be interesting to camp near area 51 to see if anything happens.
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« Reply #198 on: Oct 4th, 2009, 10:51pm »

From reading about area 51, i beleive it is real and they do work on top secret things there. although i doubt it is UFOs, i think area 51 is meant to attract our attention to the base and nothing less.. example; for years the government has denied its exsistance, i beleive they are doing this to draw more attention to the base and to leave us mainly wondering about that specific area, to me it seems like they are keeping alien technology somewhere else, in the mountains perhaps. if any of you have looked at Area 51 from a sattalite image, which im sure a lot of you have, you can notice there are roads that lead into the mountains and never exit them... area 51 is just sought by the government to be a distraction from something far more grand.
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« Reply #199 on: Oct 6th, 2009, 10:08am »

everything is true, the gov try to cover it up and didnt succeded in doing it.
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« Reply #200 on: Oct 6th, 2009, 3:36pm »

on Oct 6th, 2009, 10:08am, cryptoufo wrote:
everything is true, the gov try to cover it up and didnt succeded in doing it.


Hi crypto, I'm not sure what you mean by everything but without question it is/was a top secret air force base. Even though most of us know it exists we really don't know what goes on there. Thus Top Secret.

Personally I believe we test experimental aircraft there, maybe even disc shaped craft. But I don't think aliens or alien bodies are kept there. Rumors of crashed alien craft being there I believe are just rumors. I'm not saying they don't exist but I don't think they're kept there. Of course like everyone else I can't say it isn't either.
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« Reply #201 on: Dec 6th, 2009, 9:57pm »

on Aug 17th, 2009, 04:45am, Asperger wrote:
What I don't like about all the Area 51 theories is the fact they differ way too much. There are of course a lot of secret and hidden things going on, but what these things are, is unclear, even though there are many people who claim to know. So I'm not very interested in these theories since the chance they actually have any factual value is very small and even in case I read something that is true, I don't know it.
I agree there is so much publicity about area 51 and has been for so many years there is probably some area 52 or 53 by now.Somewhere totally underground some other place never to be seen by anyone.So many deserted places in a desert or in a forest so far in no one would even know it was there. I have gone on Google earth several times just scanning a area slowly moving up and down in areas were there is no road .I would find a big hole in a mountain side I would angel in. It would be a big enough hole to get anything into it.Then all of a sudden there would be another layer of another color of the same area blocking where I was looking and could never find it again. So even Google earth is controlled by the government when it comes to national security.Or whatever they want to call it.I guess they call it none of our business. There are the salt mines in Utah that hold nuclear waste and a vault that holds all kinds of nice things in Kentucky we would like to know about.There are gold mines at over 11,000 feet deep so there is plenty of wonderful things we will never find out about. Not probably without having a very bad accident to us not to say anything to anyone else.Yes national security has its own set of laws or lack of.Have a great week.
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« Reply #202 on: Jan 7th, 2010, 07:06am »

I believe we know about aliens and ufos then the people who covered up UFO/Alien evidence at area 51.
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« Reply #203 on: Jan 7th, 2010, 12:09pm »

Area 51 is a research and "test" facility for prototype aircraft. I flew in there in 1971 (to refuel a USAF aircraft used for photographic recon and to drop off film for developing) and there are some things people need to know beyond the supposed presence of aliens.

First off, Area 51 sits in very close proximity to the White Sands Missile Range (WSMR), the largest US military area in the United States. White Sands, as most of you know, is a missle and rocket test facility, most renowned for the testing of nuclear bombs before the Japanese holocausts. This range has a long history of ufo observation, and just prior to the crash two ufos were sighted, apparently one in pursuit of the other.

It has been speculated that the ufo debris recovered (which did in fact happen, but no evidence remains on site) was from a craft suspected of failing due to some form of malfunction (either mechanical or pilot error).

This flies in the face of logic, because any craft capable of interstellar flight probably had the bugs worked out of the drive train long before we were ever visited. Pilot error is also extremely unlikely. Until the time of the crash, there was enormous ufo activity in the area, which mysteriously dramatically declined immediately after the crash.

It is my belief that the recovered debris is from a ufo that was destroyed by another ufo pursuing it, but the motive escapes me, other than the possibility that the occupants either were about to interact with mankind either in a helpful manner, or possibly to take offensive action to deter nuclear development. Either way, one ufo did NOT want the other to proceed with whatever mission it was on.

The debris was quickly removed from the site and base by joint efforts by the USAF, Army and Marines. Where it is currently stored remains classified information not likely to be revealed until, as others have pointed out, such time keeping it secret becomes redundant.

There is no doubt of the reverse engineering that has occured since the crash, in fact here's a quote some of you may be familiar with:

"Let there be no doubt. Alien technology harvested from the infamous saucer ‘crash’ in Roswell, New Mexico, in July, 1947, led directly to the development of the integrated circuit chip, laser and fiber optic technologies, particle beams, electromagnetic propulsion systems, stealth capabilities, and many others! How do I know? I was in charge!”
- Colonel Philip Corso (Army Intelligence officer, former head of the Foreign Technology at the U.S. Army’s Research and Development department at the Pentagon)

Currently Area 51 is the government's prime extraterrestrial attention diversion facility. In fact they have escalated rumors and attention specifically to keep public attention focused far from their current test facilities. Did a ufo crash at Roswell? Yes. Was it an accident? Highly unlikely. Has there been reverse engineering from recovered debris. Yes. Were there "alien" bodies recovered? Yes. Were they Greys, little green men or other species of extraterrestrials? No.

It's time for the public to go from being the government's pawn in a cosmic chess game, to being the government's opponent. Do you think the government caved after the civil rights marches on Washington? Or relented after the marches to oppose Vietnam? Maybe it's time to organize the largest march of all, to finally publically open the books on the truth of ufos and the origin of man.
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« Reply #204 on: Jan 7th, 2010, 2:46pm »

Great post wildwill maybe it'll get the debate going again. But I doubt a march of any kind will get the government to come clean. Hope I'm wrong! But any coverage the event(march) would garner would be covered by the talking heads of the media interviewing the nuts with tinfoil on their heads. Not the serious intelligent believer.

So until the media takes UFO sightings serious they'll be little pressure from the Powers to come clean. And while some sightings have been covered fairly most have some joke attached at the end to poo-poo the sighting. Dan
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« Reply #205 on: Jan 7th, 2010, 3:07pm »

on Jan 7th, 2010, 12:09pm, wildwill wrote:
Area 51 is a research and "test" facility for prototype aircraft. I flew in there in 1971 (to refuel a USAF aircraft used for photographic recon and to drop off film for developing) and there are some things people need to know beyond the supposed presence of aliens.

First off, Area 51 sits in very close proximity to the White Sands Missile Range (WSMR), the largest US military area in the United States. White Sands, as most of you know, is a missle and rocket test facility, most renowned for the testing of nuclear bombs before the Japanese holocausts. This range has a long history of ufo observation, and just prior to the crash two ufos were sighted, apparently one in pursuit of the other.

It has been speculated that the ufo debris recovered (which did in fact happen, but no evidence remains on site) was from a craft suspected of failing due to some form of malfunction (either mechanical or pilot error).

This flies in the face of logic, because any craft capable of interstellar flight probably had the bugs worked out of the drive train long before we were ever visited. Pilot error is also extremely unlikely. Until the time of the crash, there was enormous ufo activity in the area, which mysteriously dramatically declined immediately after the crash.

It is my belief that the recovered debris is from a ufo that was destroyed by another ufo pursuing it, but the motive escapes me, other than the possibility that the occupants either were about to interact with mankind either in a helpful manner, or possibly to take offensive action to deter nuclear development. Either way, one ufo did NOT want the other to proceed with whatever mission it was on.

The debris was quickly removed from the site and base by joint efforts by the USAF, Army and Marines. Where it is currently stored remains classified information not likely to be revealed until, as others have pointed out, such time keeping it secret becomes redundant.

There is no doubt of the reverse engineering that has occured since the crash, in fact here's a quote some of you may be familiar with:

"Let there be no doubt. Alien technology harvested from the infamous saucer ‘crash’ in Roswell, New Mexico, in July, 1947, led directly to the development of the integrated circuit chip, laser and fiber optic technologies, particle beams, electromagnetic propulsion systems, stealth capabilities, and many others! How do I know? I was in charge!”
- Colonel Philip Corso (Army Intelligence officer, former head of the Foreign Technology at the U.S. Army’s Research and Development department at the Pentagon)

Currently Area 51 is the government's prime extraterrestrial attention diversion facility. In fact they have escalated rumors and attention specifically to keep public attention focused far from their current test facilities. Did a ufo crash at Roswell? Yes. Was it an accident? Highly unlikely. Has there been reverse engineering from recovered debris. Yes. Were there "alien" bodies recovered? Yes. Were they Greys, little green men or other species of extraterrestrials? No.

It's time for the public to go from being the government's pawn in a cosmic chess game, to being the government's opponent. Do you think the government caved after the civil rights marches on Washington? Or relented after the marches to oppose Vietnam? Maybe it's time to organize the largest march of all, to finally publically open the books on the truth of ufos and the origin of man.


Interesting info, wildwill. I'm pleased to hear you quoting Philip Corso, I too read his book, and took and still take him very seriously.

So where has all the 'debris' from Roswell gone too? Well, my house is filled with it. Countless gizmos running my household, especially the computers, entertainment centers and the laptop I'm using right now (it's an ALIEN BRAIN and I'm in a mind meld with it!!) are the result imo of all those hardworking reverse-engineers.

Could it be the Roswell crash was a Trojan Horse, designed to set in motion a feverish development of tech, computers, communication, aviation/spacecraft & weaponry, and last but not least the internet. Somehow that little disk is running the whole world...


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« Reply #206 on: Jan 7th, 2010, 3:16pm »

I think you're probably right, GForce. One of the things that disturbs me the most about mainstream media is the biased slant they control, and therefore, there is very little "fair" coverage.

I remember going to a fringe political party's public meeting a few years ago, packed to the rafters with enthusiastic people pumped about the new party, but when the meeting was covered on national television that night the camera focused in on one senior citizen in the waiting room who was nodding off, and one fubar outside who is a known mental patient in the community. However, despite the very obvious biased media slant, that party now governs our country (and the national station responsible has had massive budget, and more importantly, staff cuts).

I guess all we can do at this point is dream about someday being taken seriously, but with the control governments have over media, it may well be a very, very, very long dream.

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on Jan 7th, 2010, 3:07pm, purr wrote:
Interesting info, wildwill. I'm pleased to hear you quoting Philip Corso, I too read his book, and took and still take him very seriously.

So where has all the 'debris' from Roswell gone too? Well, my house is filled with it. Countless gizmos running my household, especially the computers, entertainment centers and the laptop I'm using right now (it's an ALIEN BRAIN and I'm in a mind meld with it!!) are the result imo of all those hardworking reverse-engineers.

Could it be the Roswell crash was a Trojan Horse, designed to set in motion a feverish development of tech, computers, communication, aviation/spacecraft & weaponry, and last but not least the internet. Somehow that little disk is running the whole world...

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There is the very distinct possibility the crash was some form of "trojan horse". Unfortunately, most known encounters mention the fact that NO information could be removed or copied from the visitors (ie: Betty Hill, etc.) because apparently the visitors want no proof of their existence to be in human hands. Could it have been an intentional "accident"? I personally don't believe so, but that is a long way from being fact. You are correct about having a house full of reverse engineering, and it's quite possible the very computers we're communicating on are reverse engineered from base operational or navigational systems from the crashed craft. Too bad they couldn't crack the communication and drive language and programs, because global warming would quickly cease to be an issue if that info was leaked.
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« Reply #208 on: Jan 12th, 2010, 12:02pm »

on Jan 7th, 2010, 12:09pm, wildwill wrote:
Area 51 is a research and "test" facility for prototype aircraft. I flew in there in 1971 (to refuel a USAF aircraft used for photographic recon and to drop off film for developing) and there are some things people need to know beyond the supposed presence of aliens.

First off, Area 51 sits in very close proximity to the White Sands Missile Range (WSMR), the largest US military area in the United States. White Sands, as most of you know, is a missle and rocket test facility, most renowned for the testing of nuclear bombs before the Japanese holocausts. This range has a long history of ufo observation, and just prior to the crash two ufos were sighted, apparently one in pursuit of the other.


Whoa, whoa, whoa, Will!

You should get your facts straight before rattling them off as "facts". Area 51 is NOWHERE NEAR White Sands Missile Range. White Sands is in central New Mexico, near Alamogordo while Area 51 is in central Nevada, within the boundaries of the Nellis bombing range, which is perhaps the largest military facility in the US - in fact, larger than many states.

There is a whole 'nother state and several hundred miles intervening between those two places.

Certainly, UFOs DID pay close attention to New Mexico and the White Sands range during the late '40s and '50s. They have always had a strong interest in our nuclear activities. You can read Robert Hastings articles about this at the UFO Chronicles website:

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2008/12/did-ufos-cause-shutdown-of-icbms-at.html

Or better yet, read his book on the subject:

http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Nukes-Extraordinary-Encounters-Nuclear/dp/1434398315/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263316791&sr=1-1

on Jan 7th, 2010, 12:09pm, wildwill wrote:
It has been speculated that the ufo debris recovered (which did in fact happen, but no evidence remains on site) was from a craft suspected of failing due to some form of malfunction (either mechanical or pilot error).

This flies in the face of logic, because any craft capable of interstellar flight probably had the bugs worked out of the drive train long before we were ever visited. Pilot error is also extremely unlikely. Until the time of the crash, there was enormous ufo activity in the area, which mysteriously dramatically declined immediately after the crash.

It is my belief that the recovered debris is from a ufo that was destroyed by another ufo pursuing it, but the motive escapes me, other than the possibility that the occupants either were about to interact with mankind either in a helpful manner, or possibly to take offensive action to deter nuclear development. Either way, one ufo did NOT want the other to proceed with whatever mission it was on.


If you are talking about the Roswell incident, then you are not talking about area 51 as mentioned above - but central New Mexico.

Having read some really good articles on anti-gravity technology this past year, the whole thing is dependent on electromagnetism and creating energy fields using the same. Rancher Mac Brazel who was foremen on the ranch where the crash took place recalled hearing a loud explosion on the very stormy night when he suspected the crash took place.

Having lived in New Mexico myself for a few years, I can attest to the ferocity of the summertime monsoon storms. Now, what do you suppose would have a severe deleterious effect on the function of an electromagnetic field? Perhaps a large and instantaneous electromagnetic charge from outside the confines of that field - you know, like a lightning strike?

Others suggest that radar did the trick. Radar also depends on electromagnetic waves to do their work.

Suggesting that the UFO was shot down by another is an original speculation on your part. It certainly is possible. But I think this is based more on your own beliefs about things than any actual evidence. I have offered two alternatives here that fit more closely to what people reported. Speculating WHY the crash happened is okay, just do not get too attached to your own explanations.

There can be a million reasons why an accident happens. Suggesting that advanced technology would eliminate accidents altogether is a speculation which, to my mind, "flies in the face of logic". Stuff happens. I suspect stuff will continue to happen as long as people (or other similar beings) make mistakes, unwitting or otherwise. kiss


on Jan 7th, 2010, 12:09pm, wildwill wrote:
It's time for the public to go from being the government's pawn in a cosmic chess game, to being the government's opponent. Do you think the government caved after the civil rights marches on Washington? Or relented after the marches to oppose Vietnam? Maybe it's time to organize the largest march of all, to finally publically open the books on the truth of ufos and the origin of man.


Will, way to rage against the machine! Hey, if you can get this thing going than I will be right there with you, marching in the front lines.

But let's get real: In a world where more people actually believe in the possibility of UFOs than will willingly admit it - due to worries about what others will think of them for revealing such beliefs - getting people on board for such a crusade is more than an uphill battle. It is battle against people's sense of cultural belonging.

Good luck with that. And when you get it going, let me know and Bonehead will be there with bells on..... laugh

Cheers!!

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« Reply #209 on: Mar 11th, 2010, 5:15pm »

Col Corso did also make mention that the star wars SDI system was created to not only disable the guidance mechanism on enemy warheads, but also to disable extraterrestrial vehicles. Perhaps after the Roswell incident we recieved so much beneficial technology that they craved more and conspired to shoot down/disable these things coming here in hopes that they could get another taste of the technology onboard.


This is my problem with the government doing this whole thing behind our backs. I personally don't trust government and I know a lot of others feel the same way. Do we want these CIA types to be the ones acting as ambassadors to an alien presence? Do we want this kind of greed to be what aliens take away from their meeting with us? Instead of trying to be diplomatic we conspire to shoot down their vehicles to steal their secrets?

I am amazed we havn't seen any of these UFO's becoming hostile yet. Perhaps they consider us attacking them as a non-threat and they could stand to lose a couple of guys, especially if the greys are really just surrogates for controllers that live somewhere else, controlling them remotely. It would be like losing the mars rover. It's just a loss of money and effort and not any human lives. They may view this the same way.

Either way, this is why Von Braun was so against space based weaponry. He knows our capacity to fuck up diplomatic relations by deciding to shoot first and ask questions later.
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