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« Reply #15 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 10:18pm »

on Oct 8th, 2015, 09:25am, drwu23 wrote:
Thanks once again for a rational look into some of the aspects of the ufo enigma as they relate to the psychosocial model.
Did you ever reread Hansen's book and did you come away with any new insights...?
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Thanks, drwu. Yes, I did reread Hansen's 'Trickster'. While I wouldn't say I developed any particularly new insights, I nonetheless found it quite helpful and I'm confident it continues to add to my overall interpretation of ufology and related topics.

One of the things I've been considering more recently than I usually think about, for instance, is the amount of relevant material the UFO community collectively misses. If information doesn't come with "UFO" stamped in bold large print across the top, it won't even get read. Such material, for examples, could include the last paper I just posted if the author had simply discussed perception and hallucinations but not linked them directly to UFO reports... or any number of studies done on hypnosis, but since the studies do not directly discuss alleged alien abductees, the typical UFO enthusiast takes no interest whatsoever in the topic. There are of course lots more relevant topics that commonly get passed over.

At any rate, another aspect of Hansen's work that was helpful is that I developed an interest in the Simone Mendez case (which he addressed). I reviewed some of the related FOIA material and subsequently corresponded with her. There will be a chapter on her case in my upcoming book, which explores exploitation within the UFO community. The book will be self-published via the Amazon network, and I envision it dropping pretty soon, probably by the end of the year or early next.

I seriously doubt it will be a crowd pleaser, but it will contain footnotes for assertions and be accurate. That's of course why it will not be popular. smiley
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« Reply #16 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 11:15pm »

on Oct 8th, 2015, 10:18pm, jjflash wrote:
Thanks, drwu. Yes, I did reread Hansen's 'Trickster'. While I wouldn't say I developed any particularly new insights, I nonetheless found it quite helpful and I'm confident it continues to add to my overall interpretation of ufology and related topics.

One of the things I've been considering more recently than I usually think about, for instance, is the amount of relevant material the UFO community collectively misses. If information doesn't come with "UFO" stamped in bold large print across the top, it won't even get read. Such material, for examples, could include the last paper I just posted if the author had simply discussed perception and hallucinations but not linked them directly to UFO reports... or any number of studies done on hypnosis, but since the studies do not directly discuss alleged alien abductees, the typical UFO enthusiast takes no interest whatsoever in the topic. There are of course lots more relevant topics that commonly get passed over.

At any rate, another aspect of Hansen's work that was helpful is that I developed an interest in the Simone Mendez case (which he addressed). I reviewed some of the related FOIA material and subsequently corresponded with her. There will be a chapter on her case in my upcoming book, which explores exploitation within the UFO community. The book will be self-published via the Amazon network, and I envision it dropping pretty soon, probably by the end of the year or early next.

I seriously doubt it will be a crowd pleaser, but it will contain footnotes for assertions and be accurate. That's of course why it will not be popular. smiley


I might read it for the third time over the Christmas holidays....I always find something new in it.
I don't recall the Mendez case so I'll have to look it up.

I have never read an Amazon online e-book but I might make an exception and read yours.
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« Reply #17 on: Oct 13th, 2015, 11:42am »

I saw only a very short comment on the Mendez case in Hansen's book.
JJ... What was it about the case that interested you ?
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« Reply #18 on: Oct 13th, 2015, 10:19pm »

on Oct 13th, 2015, 11:42am, drwu23 wrote:
I saw only a very short comment on the Mendez case in Hansen's book.
JJ... What was it about the case that interested you ?


Yeah, Hansen only devotes about a page to the Mendez case, but that was enough to interest me due to its implications of exploitation, an area I find worthy of attention. I think that's particularly the circumstance as compared to a lot of the stuff more popularly discussed and promoted in UFO circles.

I think the Mendez case has a number of intriguing aspects, such as it involved the same time frame, early 1980's, and agency, AFOSI, as the Bennewitz affair. Mendez also obtained FOIA docs to confirm her story and interrogations, all the result of being given a supposedly classified UFO-related doc by an airman in the first place (shades of Doty's behavior). Then, for an encore, AFOSI tried to recruit Mendez to work with them. Lots of WTF's in that story.

I think, at the least, the case carries a lot of implications concerning the dysfunction of the IC and ufology. At the most, perhaps it carries implications to spy games (as Maccabee claimed Pandolfi identified as the CIA interest in UFOs) and related head games. So while there may be some genuine phenomena worthy of study within UFO reports, I think the exploitation inherent to the community deserves much more attention than it typically receives. Actually, I'd even go as far as to say its lack of attention is what enabled Scott Waring to become a media go-to guy and Hopkins to have ever been granted anything more than demands he produce some reasonable evidence as a condition of being extended an invitation to speak at a conference.

Coast to Coast may be the stage, but exploitation is the star, and I think it's been that way a long time.
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