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« Reply #9 on: Sep 17th, 2015, 2:09pm »

The chemtrail conspiracy thing has always been a joke imho.
It's right there with the Princess Diana and Moon landing conspiracy nonsense....and let's not forget the Reptilian alien thing as world leaders.

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xx Re: This "chemtrail" nonsense is beyond
« Reply #10 on: Sep 18th, 2015, 6:06pm »

on Sep 17th, 2015, 2:09pm, drwu23 wrote:
The chemtrail conspiracy thing has always been a joke imho.
It's right there with the Princess Diana and Moon landing conspiracy nonsense....and let's not forget the Reptilian alien thing as world leaders.

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WHAThuh?? Major cognitive dissonance here! Next you'll be telling me Elvis, Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, and JFK are not living at the secret UFO base in the Bermuda Triangle. shocked
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 3rd, 2015, 8:43pm »

You fools,Don't you ever look ^,There is waaay too much evidence.
The sky everyone takes for granted is seldomly looked has changed drastically.
In the Spring,Do you not see the criss -cross of the jets as they fly across the heavens?
I have videoed this.
There are pilots which have come publicly and stated,"We have polluted the Earth and our US government has allowed this".
Do some research,you'll find so much.
It may change your mind.
Look ^^^^^^.....

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xx Re: This "chemtrail" nonsense is beyond
« Reply #12 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 4:45pm »

on Dec 3rd, 2015, 8:43pm, jm57 wrote:
You fools,Don't you ever look ^,There is waaay too much evidence.


No there isn't. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Crank claims by scammers promoting the chemtrail hoax, out to con people out of their hard-earned cash and parroted all over the place by their gullible followers does not constitute evidence.

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The sky everyone takes for granted is seldomly looked has changed drastically.


Apart from there being far more contrails in the sky these days, because far more planes are flying, the sky has not changed at all.

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In the Spring,Do you not see the criss -cross of the jets as they fly across the heavens?


Yes, of course they criss-cross. Planes don't all fly in the same direction do they? Depends on where they are coming from and where they are going.

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There are pilots which have come publicly and stated,"We have polluted the Earth and our US government has allowed this".


The only ones I've ever seen are from liars who pretend they have done this so they can have a laugh. And they have all been exposed as such as well.

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I've done my research thanks, which is how I know chemtrails are an internet hoax. Have you done yours?

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Here's how contrails are formed, whether persistant or not. If the atmosphere at that altitude is ice-supersaturated, the trails will persist and spread wide, just like normal clouds do because they both consist of just water vapour:

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And aside from the science, which does not support the chemtrail claims at all, how do you think it is possible for any aircraft to carry thousands of tons of chemicals to make miles long trails in the sky, weighing thousands of tons?

And how is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 5:35pm »

Probably a stupid question but has anyone collected samples from within a supposed chemtrail? Seems quite doable and sensible if one wants to prove their belief.
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xx Re: This "chemtrail" nonsense is beyond
« Reply #14 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 7:02pm »

on Dec 7th, 2015, 5:35pm, GhostofEd wrote:
Probably a stupid question but has anyone collected samples from within a supposed chemtrail? Seems quite doable and sensible if one wants to prove their belief.


Not so far, no. And in fact that's the one piece of evidence that the chemmies could collect (by all of them clubbing together to raise enough money to hire a plane and necessary equipment) to prove or disprove their claims once and for all. I guess they haven't bothered because once they've been shown to be wrong, that's the end of their fantasy and for the scammers, their gravy train of money.

That said, Michael J. Murphy (maker of the "What In The World Are They Spraying" film and its follow-ups) said he's planning to do just that for his next film. However, as he's planning to use a glider to attempt to collect a sample from a trail at 30,000 feet, it seems like his next film will never appear, but he's still happy to collect donations for it from his followers though ...
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« Reply #15 on: Dec 7th, 2015, 11:00pm »

There is a very apparent denial with this response from you sir.
Damn,Your research smacks of governmental spoofing and BS.
Your research wreaks of total denial of truths in the skies above you.
Do you actually watch the skies?
Just above your head?
Step outside,Watch as they progress ,
Fanning and moving,Certain times of the year,there are NO "contrails"
Yet,between late December and into late February,
There are many,Then they subside,Momentarily
Just watch,It's all there,Right in front of your eyes.

Are you blind?
I'm aware of seasonal changes,BUT,When it Only happens specific days out of the year,
There must be an agenda going here.
Dig a little deeper,You may find more than what you spew.
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 8th, 2015, 07:05am »

jm57,

Just what do you think is being sprayed over everyone ?

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http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrails
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« Reply #17 on: Dec 8th, 2015, 10:26am »

on Dec 7th, 2015, 11:00pm, jm57 wrote:
There is a very apparent denial with this response from you sir.
Damn,Your research smacks of governmental spoofing and BS.


Ah, you're playing the tired old loser's shill card then, instead of addressing my comment directly and explaining why it's wrong with science. Nobody who debunks the chemtrail hoax is being paid by anybody to do it - we all do it for nothing. Typical comment from a chemtrail believer, who has a highly inflated view of his/her own importance and thinks that governments are worried about the crank claims, when in fact, they are not in the slightest bit interested.

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Do you actually watch the skies?


Yes, since I'm an astronomy enthusiast I often look up at things. The difference is that when I look up in the daytime and see persistent contrails I see nothing unusual. Unlike yourself, who apparently thinks that by simply looking up they can determine exactly what's going on, just like people used to when they saw a solar eclipse and thought it was dragons eating the Sun.

How about going to the links given by HAL, namely:

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jm57,

Just what do you think is being sprayed over everyone ?

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http://contrailscience.com/chemical-analysis-of-contrails

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chemtrails


And explaining with science why they are wrong? As for:

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Yet,between late December and into late February,
There are many,Then they subside,Momentarily
Just watch,It's all there,Right in front of your eyes.


Contrails can persist and spread wide at any time of the year. It depends on the atmospheric conditions at the altitude and location at which an aircraft is flying. Haven't you ever noticed that on days when there is a clear blue sky, not only are there no contrails but there are no clouds either? That's because clouds cannot form in those conditions either. Again, contrails are simply cirrus clouds themselves and created by the process shown in the diagram in my previous comment, ie:

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And if you are unable to explain with science why you think all that is wrong, how about explaining the horrendous logistical problems if the chemtrail claims were true, that I also mentioned? Namely:

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And how is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?


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« Reply #18 on: Dec 8th, 2015, 6:41pm »

Cosmophobia huh?
Crap site.
You sir are a paid shill which seems to devalue much evidence without doing much research.
If,and when you do some<research,don't be so lame and dismiss.
Let me know when the veil has been lifted from your eyes and brain,JM57,out.
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 8th, 2015, 7:41pm »

The only health conspiracy I believe has actual evidence is the fluoride controversy!
Chem-trails......Meh not so much!


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« Reply #20 on: Dec 8th, 2015, 9:09pm »

What about as the excaust leaves the combustion chamber?
It may be introduced then.




Please ,You nayasayers,Do More Research,On your Own.
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 9th, 2015, 07:05am »

jm57,

Has it ever, even for one fleeting moment, crossed your mind that you may be the one who is wrong ?

Seriously.

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« Reply #23 on: Dec 9th, 2015, 4:07pm »

on Dec 8th, 2015, 9:17pm, ZETAR wrote:
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I guess that bird didn't get the upgrade yet, maybe next year Z.


http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2014/10/26/chemtrails-confirmed-again-modern-jet-engines-incapable-of-producing-contrails/

plenty of links for you curious types.
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