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xx Re: Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas
« Reply #135 on: Jun 3rd, 2010, 02:21am »

Strange cloud?

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xx Re: Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas
« Reply #136 on: Jun 3rd, 2010, 09:34am »

on Apr 7th, 2010, 10:02pm, SEARCHER wrote:
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Or if I may say Carol,Sorry that it took awhile to get back to you with a reply. Had a long holiday weekend and then we had to play catch-up with all the things that are starting to bloom and grow and yes that does include grass,lots and lots of grass to mow before it gets out of hand,but we did it so everythings fine now. I talked with my wife about what you had asked about if my wife or I or we had experienced any lost time while we were watching the chemtrails. No we can't say that we have as far as we can remember. I can tell you that what you asked about did get us started on a very long and interesting conversation about different times that we feel that something has happened,but what we will probably never know for sure.We did agree though that at a lot of points in both our lives we both have had times that just seemed strange. Was it abductions,we really don't think so,but then again they may not want us to remember and that's why we can't,but we truly don't think so. We talked and found that there were,and are times that it just seemed that the day just flew by, the night was very short as far as the time that we had slept. Waking up and feel that we've been beat with a" stick" for the lack of a better word ,for no apparent reasons,dreams of things that would wake one or the other up in a soaking sweat,or scared to a point of not wanting to go back to sleep. All of these things and more we have experienced at one time or another in our lives,but have always come up with some sort of a reason to dismiss what had happened one way or another. As badly as we would like and want to see and communicate with alien beings,or beings that we feel are on our planet and have been quite abit longer time than we have "we truly don't think we have". We're sure that everyone has had times that time just flew by for some reason and for no good reason,waking up sore and not know why,sitting outside and before they know it a lot later than they think it should be,and the list could go on and on, with the different things that happens to people and they just don't know how or why,happens to all of us at one time or another,but that's just my opinion and others I'm sure feel differently. Trust me I wish I knew that it was different,I just don't think it is though. This isn't all I wanted to say about this subject,but didn't want to have everyone have to read a book,but I do have more I wanted to say,just didn't know how in a shorter post. JIM smiley


Hey, Jim smiley

I have experienced missing time, and I know beyond a shadow of a doubt it was not simply a case of the sensation of time flying. My late husband and I also experienced a GAIN of time...! We were in a car with friends driving home from a concert, and we noticed a strange light in the sky that seemed to be pacing us. As soon as we noticed and commented on it, it swooped down, becoming larger as it got closer, till it was directly overhead, flooding the car with light and an odd buzzing sound. That was all that happened, or so we thought, before it lifted away and vanished in the night sky. Trouble is, we suddenly found ourselves over fifty miles from where we had been when this event occurred! The time that had passed was only five minutes. There is no way we could have driven fifty miles in five minutes!

Anyway... lots of interesting stuff. No time to go into it all here, but suffice it to say it makes you re-examine some previously held beliefs and concepts..! grin
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xx Re: Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas
« Reply #137 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 12:00am »

Call these trails what you want(contrails or chemtrails),but these people that fly these unmarked jets lay these lines where they want to. After watching these jets for better than seven years now,my speculation for what they are doing is weather modification of some kind.

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xx Re: Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas
« Reply #138 on: Dec 17th, 2010, 06:11am »

on Dec 17th, 2010, 12:00am, Lawwalk wrote:
Call these trails what you want(contrails or chemtrails),but these people that fly these unmarked jets lay these lines where they want to. After watching these jets for better than seven years now,my speculation for what they are doing is weather modification of some kind.

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These are normal contrail and moist cirrus cloud photos. Nothing to see here. You can even see the airline colours in some of them. So there are no unmarked jets just scheduled air traffic taking peeps from a to b.

They are not modifying the weather, intentionally anyway. In moist airmass conditions, when a hot aircraft exhaust cools in the upper air cirrus it forms thicker and wider cirrus clouds. Sometimes (as in your photos) these clouds can start to precipitate ice crystals which drop as mamma (bulbus clouds) or as Ci. Inc. virga (mares tails). This is not seeding the ice clouds but simply the same phenomenon as when your breath creates clouds of mist on a damp night.

I am sorry you have been wasting your time for seven years on this false conspiracy theory. Chemtrails appeal to people because these jet airliners are above everyone's head all the time so it makes it easy to feel you can 'do' something by publishing normal upper airway airliners as something important.

All of the pictures you have posted here are explainable in simple terms as normal phenomena. I could do it if you were open to the truth. I doubt you are if you have dedicated your life to this belief of this conspiracy.

There is laptop software/hardware that turns a laptop into an ATC radar. It shows all traffic and their idents/registration numbers/airlines/aircraft types/route information/etc. I know someone who bought this and I have seen it in action. Thousands of people watch aeroplanes as a hobby. They see everything that flies and use technology like this to get the registration letters of planes and so on. Aircraft never go unnoticed. Check this out...

http://www.kinetic-avionics.co.uk/images/Escreen_shot.jpg

Here is a screen shot I got from this website...

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It shows the London TMA area with all the jetliners and other aircraft. It gives airline names, registration letters, routes etc.

Your lack of knowledge of aviation is at the base of your misunderstanding about it, as with all chemtrail true believers. Your lack of knowledge is not a good basis for understanding of this topic.

It would be almost impossible to fly a clandestine flight in controlled airspace these days. Especially using a conventional Boeing or Airbus type which is not stealthy.

This is pretty sad. cry

Not trying to offend you, Lawwalk, wink

..but when senior moderators talk about normal things as though they were something as significant as a global conspiracy to poison humanity, someone has to say something. You are wrong about the photos you posted.

Maybe if you post a photo I cannot explain as normal I will change my mind but I have yet to see a 'chemtrail' in all the photos chemtrail conspiracy theorists have posted on the internet. It is a pity these people seem to think anyone with knowledge of the subject of aviation and meteorology is to be avoided. You are wasting your life on a bogus conspiracy while there are most likely other conspiracies out there that need investigating.

I pointed this out on OMF and they suggested that pilots are part of this dumbass conspiracy theory. Presumably all aviation professionals are 'in' on it, too. This is scary paranoia not clear thinking.
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xx Re: Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas
« Reply #139 on: Jan 25th, 2011, 07:56am »

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see our skies are changing drastically since about fifteen years ago. Whether it be from chemtrails or contrails,the answer is not completely known. I know that as the days pass,fewer if any 'real' clouds are seen. Anyone over fifteen years old should know what I'm talking about.

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xx Re: Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas
« Reply #140 on: Mar 5th, 2011, 03:43am »

All contrails Lawwalk - every single one of them, as are all the other photos in this thread. That said, did you see my post #8 in this thread where I replied to Hyundisonata's video about the aluminium deposits? I'm wondering if it's possible there may be a technical problem with modern day jet engine emissions causing that, which needs to be addressed by the engine manufacturers and fuel suppliers. I'm hoping an expert on that will respond.

on Jan 25th, 2011, 07:56am, Lawwalk wrote:
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see our skies are changing drastically since about fifteen years ago. Whether it be from chemtrails or contrails,the answer is not completely known. I know that as the days pass,fewer if any 'real' clouds are seen. Anyone over fifteen years old should know what I'm talking about ...


In the same post of the same thread I mentioned above, I gave some statistics for air traffic take-offs and landings since 1950, which have increased dramatically since then.

And did you see drwu23's post #32 in this thread about the enormous number of pilots willing to spray chemicals over their families and friends, if there really is an intentional "chemtrail conspiracy" by TPTB, and my post #34 in that thread asking about all the thousands of pilots and ground support staff that would be required?
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xx Re: Chemtrail Chemcloud Photos Over Texas
« Reply #141 on: Mar 5th, 2011, 1:16pm »

For Lawwalk;
as Smersh mentioned I posted this in another thread.

"If some evil cabal is dosing us then they are also dosing their friends, family, and loved ones unless every time they spray they are warning them not to go outside on those days in all the states and places they are spraying.
For me that's enough to suspect that the whole chemtrail thing is more paranoid conspiracy thinking. "

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« Reply #142 on: Apr 14th, 2011, 02:21am »

Lawwalk, I really hope for your sake that you don't truly believe in chemtrails as ferverently as it seems. You must live a very stressful life if you do.

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on Mar 5th, 2011, 03:43am, Smersh wrote:
That said, did you see my post #8 in this thread where I replied to Hyundisonata's video about the aluminium deposits? I'm wondering if it's possible there may be a technical problem with modern day jet engine emissions causing that, which needs to be addressed by the engine manufacturers and fuel suppliers. I'm hoping an expert on that will respond.



I work with jet aircraft every day and as far as I'm aware there are no additives to the fuels that contain aluminium. And if the turbines are losing enough metal to be detected I doubt they would last very long at all. As it is we use spectrographs of the oil to detect minute amounts of metal suspended in the oil to detect any wear to bearings and such. It's actually very useful as every component almost is made of slightly different alloys so you get advanced warning of components deteriorating up to hundreds of flight hours before they become a danger.

If there are large amounts of aluminium in the exhaust I have no idea where it would come from. There are hundreds of aluminium components. Blades, pumps, housings etc... But they would never wear fast enough to be detectable in the air even if the sensor was in the engine.
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« Reply #143 on: Apr 15th, 2011, 05:36am »

I don't doubt that the Chemicals listed above are present in and around an airport. A few of them do set of a few alarm bells for me. MEK for one I'm a hit nervous about. However as you say these are from air samples at an airport. Many would be produced from maintenance. From the vehicles supporting the logistics of an airport and obviously from the aircraft themselves.

The difference is that these aircraft exhaust gasses present at the airport are from planes taking off and landing at ground level and high power settings (as a note reverse thrust on landing uses an even greater power setting than takeoff, often over 100% rpm). An aircraft at altitude will be burning less fuel more efficiently so will produce far less pollutants and those will be dispersed to practically negligible levels by the time they reach ground level.

Even with the higher concentrations at airports I know men and women who've worked at airports their entire lives and show no I'll effects. I also suspect the levels of the more hazardous chemicals would be higher in the CBD of any decent sized city. Cars and busses burn fuel incredibly inefficiently. Turbines on the other hand are highly efficient and should produce a far cleaner burn. As I said though they arent healthy gasses, far from it... But they are at a distance that makes it negligible
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« Reply #144 on: Oct 22nd, 2011, 1:58pm »

Amazing Clouds Colors (Scroll down and click on slideshow)


http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff46/LawsPix/LawsPix2/?action=view§t=b24c9756.pbw

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« Reply #145 on: Dec 3rd, 2011, 07:01am »

I saw these clouds a lot in the early 2000 - not much any more.
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« Reply #146 on: Mar 6th, 2012, 05:50am »

Thanks for the pics LAWWALK,
On 3-5-2012, NOT one, line in the sky all day down here in S. FLA,
I guess they must of closed all the airports, LOL, this is what makes
it so obvious here.
I did get this old data send to me that our, Govt, USA, was admitted
to testing in the past, for me, I don't think they stopped.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/health-and-medical/germ-warfare-experiments-on-civilian-populations-.html

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« Reply #147 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 2:37pm »

MR<>LAWWALK,
Nice colors!
we get that here too.
Today, first time in almost a week, they sprayed in what I observe as focused spraying, purposed X's in the sky, then they layer on top, it's funny cause what they teach in aviation school, says pockets of cold air cause ice crystals to form, and "possibly" remain for up to a hour, this is the explanation I hear from "smart" people, I sure hope some of that cold air gets down here, cause it is "HOT" way to early for me.
Out of respect for the "smart" people, they made allot of "ICE" crystals over my head today, started early AM, guess what, the ICE is still hanging in the air, 3:30 PM.
Thanks for the wondrous pics.
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« Reply #148 on: Apr 1st, 2012, 02:02am »

There is no doubt in my mind chemspraying is a reality and no amount of denial will make me think different. Biggest joke is that it is easy to prove if we could access all flight data for the area in question and compare it against data gathered on the ground. But alas the aviation authorities here in Scotland do not like you obtaining such information lol the terrorist fear factor invented by governments has well and truly closed that door. this and the simple fact that such agencies as the MIB put a block on any enquiry you make as I found out when I complained against the black unmarked large helicopter that hovered about twenty foot above my head photographing and filming me quite blatantly. The only other option is buy a weather balloon and find some way to measure the height of the aircraft but again it is now illegal to point a laser at an aircraft so itís all guess work. The only good thing I see about these trails is that you are getting some really nice artistic photos from them LW.
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« Reply #149 on: May 17th, 2012, 05:09am »

Thanks for all the pics MR<>LAWWALK, below is a short documentary that "might" explain the purpose for the trails.
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http://www.forbiddenknowledgetv.com/videos/chemtrails/why-in-the-world-are-they-spraying---official-trailer.html
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