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« Reply #120 on: Apr 16th, 2016, 09:09am »

The problem with that video is the author is asking me to believe it is a 2 engine aircraft because he says so. He does not provide any proof it is and based on what I can research the most probable explanation is that the plane has 3 engines. I do not believe automatically what some one posts on Youtube, that would make me a sheeple. grin
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« Reply #121 on: Apr 16th, 2016, 12:18pm »

^ I agree Ghost and imho the problem with the chemtrail 'fans' is that they believe it all with out any real evidence other than what they consider evidence which is nothing at all.

I don't mean to be rude to people but imho there is a conspiracy mindset in certain individuals that borders on paranoia and delusion. I've seen it for years on various sites like this that discuss the paranormal ,etc.
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« Reply #122 on: Apr 16th, 2016, 4:29pm »

on Apr 15th, 2016, 10:30pm, MOKSHA wrote:
Skip to 2:25 in this video,
or watch the whole thing.





Hard to tell from the video if it's a 2 or 3 engine plane. Probably 2 though as most airliners these days are either 2 or 4 engines.

Whatever, to begin with even the biggest hero of all amongst the chemtrail fans, Dane Wigington, (owner of the "geoengineeringwatch" website) says those are contrails:



If there is a third trail and it's a two engine plane, that'll be an aerodynamic contrail.

http://contrailscience.com/aerodynamic-and-rainbow-contrails/
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« Reply #123 on: Apr 17th, 2016, 05:21am »

Many (most ?) twin engined airliners have a small third auxiliary engine in the tail section that drives the generators etc. That is the one you can hear running as you climb off.

Maybe that is the cause of the third contrail.

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« Reply #124 on: Apr 17th, 2016, 06:54am »

One explanation used that it could not be a 3 engine plane is that they are no longer in production. The counter is that "in production" is not the same as "in service". Many still are and flown by carrier and delivery companies i.e. FedEx, UPS.
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« Reply #125 on: Apr 17th, 2016, 09:30am »

on Apr 17th, 2016, 05:21am, INT21 wrote:
Many (most ?) twin engined airliners have a small third auxiliary engine in the tail section that drives the generators etc. That is the one you can hear running as you climb off.

Maybe that is the cause of the third contrail.

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Yes, that's the APU (Auxiliary Power Unit) but is normally (but not always) switched off before take-off because all the power to the aircraft's internal systems is supplied by the engines once they have been started.
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« Reply #126 on: Apr 22nd, 2016, 09:34am »

Here's another good explanation of aerodynamic contrails (otherwise known as wing vortices.)

http://www.pilotfriend.com/training/flight_training/aero/wng_vort.htm
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« Reply #127 on: Apr 22nd, 2016, 8:28pm »

Good example of aerodynamic contrails in this video:


https://www.youtube.com/embed/u4D0yx4DvBk?rel=0
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« Reply #128 on: Apr 22nd, 2016, 8:29pm »

Here is what we should be concerned about!


If you want to complain about what the Air Force is "spraying", then complain about the right thing!

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Just look at these comments from air force vets:


AL: I am amazed the amount of JP 8 I put on the C17s while deployed


MH: What's even crazier is these B-52s can carry more fuel than a 17, by like 70K.


JH: Looks like they're burning coal


MH: Not doctored at all. Early models injected water into the engines during take-off to increase thrust. It made them burn black like this. Even the H model, which runs turbofans and no water injection are still pretty dirty. These were G models

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« Reply #129 on: May 3rd, 2016, 12:33pm »

What the!!? shocked



Court Takes Child From Mother After She Mentions Chemtrails At School

'I can now only see my daughter with a social security worker standing over me taking notes, and the judge said this was so that if I mention chemtrails they would put a stop to that.'

Posted on May 2, 2016 by Baxter Dmitry

A Boulder, Colorado judge has removed a child from her mother’s care because the mother believes chemtrails are being sprayed into the atmosphere, court documents reveal.

Boulder Judge D.D. Mallard told Becca Vandb that ‘99% of people would know those are just contrails,’ and said that she is ‘so immersed in a fringe subculture’ that ‘she is a danger to her daughter.’

‘I can now only see my daughter with a social security worker standing over me taking notes, and the judge said this was so that if I mention chemtrails they would put a stop to that.’

Becca pointed out that there have been no neglect or child abuse allegations from the court or her daughter’s school. There have been no criminal charges and no protective services visits.

‘I am being railroaded for expressing my views about chemtrails.’

Becca Vandb’s daughter wants to be with her mother, but is being kept away from her, with only supervised visits allowed, because Judge Mallard believes Becca is ‘immersed in a dangerous fringe subculture.’

‘I bought up chemtrails at my daughter’s school and was immediately banned from the premises. Schools and courts in Boulder, Colorado have flat out denied there is any such thing as geoengineering or chemtrails, so has my kid’s dad who works in atmospheric research at the University of Colorado – seriously.’

DANGEROUS PRECEDENT

‘The school helped him take away custody because I had the gall to argue with them when they severely embellished my comments (made to adults only) about chemtrails.’

An historic lawsuit has been filed in Canada in an effort to expose and halt the practise of chemtrails being sprayed into the atmosphere.

The suit claims that the Canadian and US governments are conducting a geoengineering program that aims to spray toxic substances and particles into the atmosphere – endangering the lives of millions of citizens.

Meanwhile in Colorado a judge has removed a child from her family home because her mother expresses her belief that chemtrails are being sprayed into the atmosphere. Something is not right here.

http://yournewswire.com/court-takes-child-from-mother-after-she-mentions-chemtrails-at-school/

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« Reply #130 on: May 3rd, 2016, 12:46pm »

The hair on my back tells me there is more to this story. We need Sys to dig out the details.
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« Reply #131 on: May 3rd, 2016, 1:19pm »

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« Reply #132 on: May 3rd, 2016, 1:34pm »

I just read the court document claim. It seemed to me that this guy is seeing discharges from planes in the sky that slowly dissipate. He claims these are dangerous.

He does not say what the dangerous materials are or his evidence they are dangerous. The rest of that website then points to the good old reliable source of scientific knowledge - Youtube chemtrail conspiracy videos.

This action is going no where and rightfully so IMO.
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« Reply #133 on: May 3rd, 2016, 2:41pm »

on May 3rd, 2016, 12:46pm, GhostofEd wrote:
The hair on my back tells me there is more to this story. We need Sys to dig out the details.


It's being discussed over on Facebook quite a bit and you're right, there is more to it. To start with it's almost a year old but for some reason, the conspiracy sites are only writing articles about it now (well, the only one really is the Yournewswire article, which has since been copied elsewhere, including on Alex Jones' Infowars site.)

Secondly, regarding the accuracy of the story, it seems true that her child was removed from her and custody given to her ex husband, who is apparently an "atmospheric engineer" (which I guess means atmospheric scientist.) But it looks like it wasn't just about her talking about chemtrails at her child's school - she seems to be a complete wingnut who believes and talks about every conspiracy claim, no matter how outlandish, out there. She commented on this article in July last year. Scroll down to the bottom of the article to read the two comments from Becka V:

http://www.meetup.com/childrensrightsfirst/events/223673169/

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« Reply #134 on: Jun 15th, 2016, 05:04am »

FYI - The premiere of Michael Murphy's new film UNConventional Grey (The follow-up to "What ... " and Why in the World are They Spraying") was cancelled.
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