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« Reply #15 on: Mar 25th, 2012, 1:32pm »

Hey icepick

I doubt I stepped into anything.I'm assuming you live in Washington state.I found a video in your state,the clouds look like the ones in Texas to me,are you saying these are real clouds? Looks like to me you have the same fake clouds. Take care....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQoxkfZcyuk

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« Reply #16 on: Mar 25th, 2012, 7:24pm »

Sorry, but our clouds are ocean fog, nothing more. This place has been famous for their effect since long before airplanes were invented. Nearly their entire mass has to come right back down before they can make it across the Cascades. This is why we are one of the rain capitols.

The reason I don't buy into chemtrails is simple. There are much more precise methods available which are both much more effective as well as far cheaper. Like water reservoirs to start with. It's possible to pick who you kill.
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xx Re: What in The World Are They Spraying?
« Reply #17 on: Mar 25th, 2012, 9:08pm »

The time a contrail stays in the air depends on the altitude the aircraft is flying and the sheer size of the engines on the craft. A heavy plane with engines really working hard pushes out a lot of heat and leaves a large contrail. If left high enough in calm air it just hangs there.
In WW2 the bombers over Europe left contrails as they flew higher and higher to avoid interception. Todays jets fly higher and higher yet to make room for more and more flights.
Here's a challenge. Rent a plane and go flying. It may be pricey, but get one that can get up high and use oxygen rather than a pressurized cabin.
Take along some jars and get samples from some clouds. Have them analyzed and the question is answered.
Sounds easy right? So why hasn't it happened yet?
Wait a minute I think it has been done, but the believers just won't believe what the tests showed.
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 26th, 2012, 12:26am »

Of course not. You only get the claims of a rigged test. I don't know where this theory got started, but it's obviously not about to go away, despite its many holes. Might as well get used to it I guess. I don't think it hurts anything for them to think this.

I do know they use the lack of contrails with extremely high flying planes, the ones which vanish quickly, which demonstrates a lack of knowledge regarding the jet stream. I believe 15k to 25k is the optimum altitude for these ice crystals to form. In reality the phenomenon is very similar to the exhaust of an automobile with a cold engine on a frosty morning, except at fifty below zero the engine need not be cold.
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« Reply #19 on: Jun 25th, 2012, 5:38pm »

REALITY CHECK; Aircraft fly higher with more effeciant engines that are millions of dollars apiece. Why would cash starpped airlines put something in fuel that could damage engines and endanger PUBLIC SAFETY. You have a plane thats worth 250 million and you are going to add chemicals untested to a jet engine.
Ten million people fly planes every year without parachutes. Now for science: Ever go to the airport and ask for a fuel sample from any jet, they all make contrails. Now at 30000 feet crusing altitude is it 60 below zero what happens when warm moist air is introduced you make a contrail. Combustion byprocts and i8ce crystals are al thats there. It this spraying its been happing since the 40s and they wearnt using jet fuel. This so absurd its really kept alive by the internet and stupid people. As the planes fly higher you see more trails but they dont hurt anything. You better make a tinfoil hat if you berlive they do.
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« Reply #20 on: Jun 25th, 2012, 7:16pm »

on Jun 25th, 2012, 5:38pm, Viperone wrote:
REALITY CHECK; Aircraft fly higher with more effeciant engines that are millions of dollars apiece. Why would cash starpped airlines put something in fuel that could damage engines and endanger PUBLIC SAFETY. You have a plane thats worth 250 million and you are going to add chemicals untested to a jet engine.
Ten million people fly planes every year without parachutes. Now for science: Ever go to the airport and ask for a fuel sample from any jet, they all make contrails. Now at 30000 feet crusing altitude is it 60 below zero what happens when warm moist air is introduced you make a contrail. Combustion byprocts and i8ce crystals are al thats there. It this spraying its been happing since the 40s and they wearnt using jet fuel. This so absurd its really kept alive by the internet and stupid people. As the planes fly higher you see more trails but they dont hurt anything. You better make a tinfoil hat if you berlive they do.


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« Reply #21 on: Jun 26th, 2012, 02:38am »

go to the cargo terminal and ask for a sample. Its checked daily for its quality your life depends on that.
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« Reply #22 on: Jun 28th, 2012, 2:35pm »

on Jun 25th, 2012, 5:38pm, Viperone wrote:
REALITY CHECK; Aircraft fly higher with more effeciant engines that are millions of dollars apiece. Why would cash starpped airlines put something in fuel that could damage engines and endanger PUBLIC SAFETY. You have a plane thats worth 250 million and you are going to add chemicals untested to a jet engine.
Ten million people fly planes every year without parachutes. Now for science: Ever go to the airport and ask for a fuel sample from any jet, they all make contrails. Now at 30000 feet crusing altitude is it 60 below zero what happens when warm moist air is introduced you make a contrail. Combustion byprocts and i8ce crystals are al thats there. It this spraying its been happing since the 40s and they wearnt using jet fuel. This so absurd its really kept alive by the internet and stupid people. As the planes fly higher you see more trails but they dont hurt anything. You better make a tinfoil hat if you berlive they do.


I think someone beat you to the hat idea...
http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=chemtrails&action=display&num=1340879878
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Like icepick said...give it up. An old Irish proverb goes:
"Never try to teach a pig to sing...you'll just waste your time and annoy the pig.''

I have asked 'chemtrail' believers several times on various boards about how the loved ones, friends, and the evil chemtrail cabal itself, avoid getting sprayed by these evil chemicals. Do they all receive a monthly spraying schedule so they can all stay inside on those days? I never have gotten any kind of coherent answer.
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« Reply #23 on: Jun 28th, 2012, 10:02pm »

<sigh>What good would staying in side do anyway Wu? Building codes require all buildings to have at least three air exchanges per hour to prevent oxygen deprivation.

Of all the concepts out there, only this one completely escapes me. Not a single piece of logic exists to support it. I remember bringing up how much more efficient it would be to use the water supply once, only to find I'd made a huge mistake. Suddenly we had a flouridation discussion taking place.

Like it or not, many among us believe that PTB want us dead. So why has world population been able to jump to 7 billion while they've been doing this? Ever ask that question? I've received some of the strangest, angry responses ................. you wouldn't believe. Okay, maybe you would. Just don't ask me to understand ............

Just bring me back some of that green cheese next visit to Luna, okay?

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« Reply #24 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 12:18am »

So, Tim and Wu, are you both saying that nothing is being sprayed?
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« Reply #25 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 05:47am »

...So, Tim and Wu, are you both saying that nothing is being sprayed?..

Count me in. That's three of us that don't believe it.

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« Reply #26 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 08:38am »

HAL,
Well, with all the Zombies popping up here in the states, there just might be something to this whole idea!!! /SARC/

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« Reply #27 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 09:32am »

LGM,

And I thought that it was all down to tv and video games.

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« Reply #28 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 12:49pm »

on Jun 25th, 2012, 7:16pm, icepick wrote:
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Try this on for size: Forget about the aluminum and barium...
Did you ever wonder what blows out of a jet airplane? Here is what you'll find in the air around an airport:

Freon 11, Freon 12, Methyl Bromide, Dichloromethane, cis-l,2-Dichloroethylene, 1,1,1-Trichloro-ethane, Carbon Tetrachloride, Benzene, Trichloroethylene, Toluene, Tetrachloroethene, Ethylbenzene, m,p-Xylene, o-Xylene, Styrene, 1,3,5-Trimethyl-benzene, 1,2,4-Trimethylbenzene, o-Dichlorobenzene, Formaldehyde, Acetaldehyde, Acrolein, Acetone, Propinaldehyde, Crotonaldehyde, Isobutylaldehyde, Methyl Ethyl Ketone, Benzaldehyde, Veraldehyde, Hexanaldehyde, Ethyl Alcohol, Acetone, Isopropyl Alcohol, Methyl Ethyl Ketone, Butane, Isopentane, Pentane, Hexane, Butyl Alcohol, Methyl Isobutyl Ketone, n,n-Dimethyl Acetamide, Dimethyl Disulfide, m-Cresol, 4-Ethyl Toulene, n-Heptaldehyde, Octanal, 1,4-Dioxane, Methyl Phenyl Ketone, Vinyl Acetate, Heptane, Phenol, Octane, Anthracene, Dimethylnapthalene (isomers), Flouranthene, 1-methylnaphthalene, 2-methylnaphthalene, Naph-thalene, Phenanthrene, Pyrene , Benzo(a)pyrene, 1-nitropyrene, 1,8-dinitropyrene, 1,3-Butadiene, sulfites, nitrites, nitrogen oxide, nitrogen monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, nitrogen trioxide, nitric acid, sulfur oxides, sulfur dioxide, sulfuric acid, urea, ammonia, carbon monoxide, ozone, particulate matter (PM10, PM2.5).

One aircraft take-off can burn thousands of pounds of fuel.

The pollution from just one, two-minute 747 takeoff is equal to operating 2.4 million lawnmowers simultaneously.

What in the above do you consider Not to be a chemical? Cheers!

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« Reply #29 on: Jun 29th, 2012, 1:31pm »

Lawwalk.

The normal exhaust from an engine, even though they may contain all the things you mention, is not the thing that is under discussion.
They (the chem spray believers) seem to be claiming that there are additives of some sort that are deliberately added by persons unknown for a purpose unknown.

I'm sure we all accept that there is pollution from jet engines just as there is pollution from cars, truck and power stations.

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