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« Reply #60 on: Jul 17th, 2012, 05:33am »

on Jul 17th, 2012, 05:11am, icepick wrote:
Purr, one question regarding this. Our WWII bombers left the same trails in the atmosphere, and the enemy used them to find the 'bomber stream'. If this is something we add to aircraft exhaust, would we not have removed it from those bombers? How many lives might it have saved?

My problems with this concept starts when I look at the tailpipe of an automobile on a frosty morning.

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Hi Ice, as it happens the notion of 'adding' compounds to aircraft/airplane exhausts doesn't come from me. Most of the lines crossing our skies are contrails, actually pretty and I spend a lot of time admiring these patterns from my living room!

If the eyewitnesses are right, and there are chemtrails sharing the skies with contrails, I'd expect them to be chemical/electrically charged or even (low-level) radiation laden gases or vapors or particle clouds, released at low temperatures as part of Weather Modification research/application programs.

I wouldn't pass any reactive compound through a jet engine...

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Answering on eliminating fighter/bomber aircraft contrails. If I remember right, the USAF (referring to the 'Block 30' upgrades to the B-2 Spirit Bomber) only a couple of years back admitted to the capability to eliminate visible contrails. This tech is now used for B-2 stealth aircraft, and probably for other selected combat aircraft too. Probably includes a neat switch: CONTRAIL ON/OFF or sumtin.


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« Reply #61 on: Jul 17th, 2012, 05:38am »

on Jul 16th, 2012, 08:02am, HAL9000 wrote:
This could be called 'shooting oneself in the foot. But in the interests of fairness.....

http://www.holmestead.ca/index-ct.html


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A very good site to read if one wants to look at the other side,way to go HAL! smiley

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« Reply #62 on: Jul 17th, 2012, 06:23am »

Hyundisonata,

...Have the skeptics never thought that the people spraying are under the same disillusion that it is safe so prefer to keep their jobs,...

If this spraying was(is) taking place then it effects everyone. So I can't see how all the people who would need to be involved could possibly keep quiet.
Wouldn't at least some of them have the moral courage to come out and say, in front of the cameras. that it is a reality.

One would have to ask where the government finds all these morally dysfunctional people who are quite prepared to dump chemicals upon the whole population.

If, as has been put forward, it is happening in some places as an attempt to effect radio transmissions or some other technical objective, then you hat least have a valid if rather dubious reason. But even that would have to come out sometime.

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« Reply #63 on: Jul 17th, 2012, 06:42am »

I don't think I would pass anything through any engine I counted on to keep me aloft Purr.

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« Reply #64 on: Jul 18th, 2012, 12:10pm »

on Jul 16th, 2012, 1:44pm, purr wrote:
You keep on keeping out those crocs, HAL! On your lower quote, thanks for the link, and may I point out that coming across as "fair" tends to add to the weight of your argument.

As to the possibility that real, observed chemtrails play out as part of some cosmic conflict, man against alien, it does not require exhaustive knowledge of their tech. Only working knowledge of precisely how they use our atmosphere.

For instance (very simple example) if you wished to disrupt flight of an aircraft (ours) it might be enough to understand it relies on lift from wings and propulsion from engines. Kill either wings or engines and flight becomes impossible.

Here (with hypothetical Visitors) the question would be how they enter the sky. The US is capable of some high tech monitoring, and it is therefore theoretically possible to solve that puzzle, see HOW the others come in. Then it becomes a matter of finding the door, and closing it in their face.

Thus chemtrails could both be explained by Weather Modification research and applications, be it civilian or military, in and of itself. Or, as I am now proposing, with the modification programs serving as convenient cover for some DEEP BLACK Star Wars effort.




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The picture you so is caused by rolling winds at altitude and causes a ripple with gaps like the picture shows Metoroligy 101, clouds formation will help.
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« Reply #65 on: Jul 18th, 2012, 12:15pm »

on Jul 18th, 2012, 12:10pm, Viperone wrote:
The picture you so is caused by rolling winds at altitude and causes a ripple with gaps like the picture shows Metoroligy 101, clouds formation will help.


Please tell me what makes you think man can control the weather. Man couldnt control Katrina nor any other natural phenomana ever. The weather could never be controlled but just modified a minute bit by cloud seeding for rain. Dont ever let anyone tell you man can manipulate the weather. Weather is created over vast areas that couldnt possibly be dupicated.
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« Reply #66 on: Jul 18th, 2012, 12:53pm »

on Jul 18th, 2012, 12:15pm, Viperone wrote:
Please tell me what makes you think man can control the weather. Man couldnt control Katrina nor any other natural phenomana ever. The weather could never be controlled but just modified a minute bit by cloud seeding for rain. Dont ever let anyone tell you man can manipulate the weather. Weather is created over vast areas that couldnt possibly be dupicated.


Hi Viperone, I am not claiming man can control the weather, and I agree the huge areas over which weather is generated, plus the immense amount of atmosphere and energy involved militates against this. (That's why insurance companies still may refer to a hurricane as an Act of God.)

What we are discussing is basically the observation of manmade clouds, two kinds, the contrails of airplanes (no purpose, mere vapor which disperses over time) and controversial chemtrails, which appear to form elongated clouds.

Real chemtrails imo could be explained by Weather Modification programs. Weather indeed is a huge chaos system beyond our control, however the research and the science is for real. Real enough for the US Senate to put forward four bills on this technology and its R & D in past years, and the United Nations outlawing any mililtary application.

I have read about four possible methods under development: Cloud Seeding, to form clouds for precipitation, Seeding Cyclone Eyewalls to weaken tropical storm systems, Veering Stormsystems away from making landfall, and redirecting existing foul weather toward enemy forces on the battlefield.

There could be busy little bees buzzing overhead, trying to TWEAK the weather, giving cause to the so called chemtrails we see. If chemtrails theoretically serve additional, highly classified, or military purposes, Weather Modification R & D constitutes the perfect cover.


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« Reply #67 on: Jul 18th, 2012, 1:01pm »

I have no problem with the possibilty that weather modification is being done ,but the idea that some throw out about spraying to control our minds or other silly conspiracy nonsense is simply ridiculous...imo.
And the reasons for not believing this have been stated many times.
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« Reply #68 on: Jul 18th, 2012, 1:17pm »

on Jul 18th, 2012, 1:01pm, drwu23 wrote:
I have no problem with the possibilty that weather modification is being done ,but the idea that some throw out about spraying to control our minds or other silly conspiracy nonsense is simply ridiculous...imo.
And the reasons for not believing this have been stated many times.


You are just saying that, because you inhaled...


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(The sobering truth is of course that we have no full knowledge of Weather Modification by atmospheric 'seeding' because of the potential for hugely profitable patents for Agriculture, and inevitable military classification of succesfully weaponized weather.)




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« Reply #69 on: Jul 18th, 2012, 2:48pm »

LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING "BIT THAT TAIL" AND THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WAS.....YEEOOOWWWW.....

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on Jul 18th, 2012, 2:48pm, ZETAR wrote:
LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING "BIT THAT TAIL" AND THE IMMEDIATE RESPONSE WAS.....YEEOOOWWWW.....

SHALOM....ZETAR


Sure ZETAR, actually I'm from a family of cat lovers, they are like furry familymembers to us, so when answering drwu23 playfully, any excuse to add a silly catpic will do smiley !

I included a serious answer in brackets.


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« Reply #71 on: Jul 19th, 2012, 09:25am »

on Jul 18th, 2012, 12:10pm, Viperone wrote:
The picture you so is caused by rolling winds at altitude and causes a ripple with gaps like the picture shows Metoroligy 101, clouds formation will help.


That's actually not right, Viperone. I've both enjoyed looking at wonderful natural cloudformations from my garden, and the meteorological photo galleries (neatly labeled) offered online. And science at this point hardly factors in manmade, artificially generated cloudformation. The premise of 99% of cloud terminology is that it is natural, making their validity dependent on the non-existence of Weather Modification. And modification exists! I don't see it over my home, because this tech is NOT IN USE where I live. But lots of Americans did observe elongated, unnatural, possibly manmade clouds, suggesting the research is being done in the United States. (India and China have applied this tech too.)

This is what we are asking in this topic. What is sprayed. And to what effect.

So, Vipe, knowing the correct label of a cloud type is no longer enough. The question is how and (possibly) why is was generated.


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on Jul 18th, 2012, 1:17pm, purr wrote:
(The sobering truth is of course that we have no full knowledge of Weather Modification by atmospheric 'seeding' because of the potential for hugely profitable patents for Agriculture, and inevitable military classification of succesfully weaponized weather.)





When I looked up the word 'paranoid' the other day your picture was next to the word.


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« Reply #73 on: Jul 19th, 2012, 12:35pm »

on Jul 19th, 2012, 09:55am, drwu23 wrote:
When I looked up the word 'paranoid' the other day your picture was next to the word.


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You have to look up 'paranoid', Wu??

Talk of coincidence, I looked up NAIVE and to my utter amazement your picture was shown.

Don't you love them illustrated dictionaries....

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« Reply #74 on: Aug 8th, 2012, 12:15am »

on Jul 18th, 2012, 12:53pm, purr wrote:
Hi Viperone, I am not claiming man can control the weather, and I agree the huge areas over which weather is generated, plus the immense amount of atmosphere and energy involved militates against this. (That's why insurance companies still may refer to a hurricane as an Act of God.)

What we are discussing is basically the observation of manmade clouds, two kinds, the contrails of airplanes (no purpose, mere vapor which disperses over time) and controversial chemtrails, which appear to form elongated clouds.

Real chemtrails imo could be explained by Weather Modification programs. Weather indeed is a huge chaos system beyond our control, however the research and the science is for real. Real enough for the US Senate to put forward four bills on this technology and its R & D in past years, and the United Nations outlawing any mililtary application.

I have read about four possible methods under development: Cloud Seeding, to form clouds for precipitation, Seeding Cyclone Eyewalls to weaken tropical storm systems, Veering Stormsystems away from making landfall, and redirecting existing foul weather toward enemy forces on the battlefield.

There could be busy little bees buzzing overhead, trying to TWEAK the weather, giving cause to the so called chemtrails we see. If chemtrails theoretically serve additional, highly classified, or military purposes, Weather Modification R & D constitutes the perfect cover.


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