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« Reply #45 on: Dec 11th, 2015, 11:55am »

Airforce 1 dispersing Yobama BS nothing more.
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« Reply #46 on: Dec 11th, 2015, 6:16pm »

The truly silly thing is You'all in GB.
A small nation with many surrounding ,
Do any of you actually look up after darkness and look at the sky for an extended period of time? I think not,Too busy on your internet of things to notice what is happening above.
Get the heck outta your mom and dads' basement reliance and really see what is ABOVE you.
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« Reply #47 on: Dec 12th, 2015, 05:27am »

on Dec 11th, 2015, 6:16pm, jm57 wrote:
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Get the heck outta your mom and dads' basement reliance and really see what is ABOVE you.


Yes I've seen it many times. It's the sky.

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How is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?
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« Reply #48 on: Dec 12th, 2015, 12:04pm »

The truly silly thing is You'all in GB.
Yo Jimbo..how do you know they are all in GB, besides Hal and Michael and Smersh....just curious on how you could tell..
I hear they like to gang up on Non Brits..where are you from..? smiley
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« Reply #49 on: Dec 12th, 2015, 8:05pm »

HMMM...

TO WIT:

"How is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?"

THAT IS INDEED AN EXCELLENT POINT!

WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT CASEBOOK CRYSTAL BALL...

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AT FIRST GLANCE ~ I SEE ~ I SEEEEEEEE ~ IT'S ALWAYS BENEFICIAL IF ONE CARRIES AROUND A PORTABLE GAS CHROMATOGRAH...ONE COULD FLY IN THE TAIL WIND OF A SUSPECT JET/PLANE AND SCOOP UP A SAMPLE AND SEE WHAT CHA GOT...wink

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KNOWING ~ HAL IS THE PICKY ONE ~ WE SHOULD FURTHER HAVE A MASS SPECTROMETER ~ FOR A SECOND ANALYSIS...

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BUT WAIT...

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IT SEEMS THAT MAN SAYS IT'S WORTHY OF REMINDING...

Revealed: Army scientists secretly sprayed St Louis with 'radioactive' particles for YEARS to test chemical warfare technology

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210415/Revealed-Army-scientists-secretly-sprayed-St-Louis-radioactive-particles-YEARS-test-chemical-warfare-technology.html

"The United States Military conducted top secret experiments on the citizens of St. Louis, Missouri, for years, exposing them to radioactive compounds, a researcher has claimed.

While it was known that the government sprayed 'harmless' zinc cadmium silfide particles over the general population in St Louis, Professor Lisa Martino-Taylor, a sociologist at St. Louis Community College, claims that a radioactive additive was also mixed with the compound.

She has accrued detailed descriptions as well as photographs of the spraying which exposed the unwitting public, predominantly in low-income and minority communities, to radioactive particles."

THE POINT BEING IS THAT CERTAIN ACTIONS ARE TAKEN WITHOUT THE PUBLIC'S AWARENESS/KNOWLEDGE/CONSENT...AND THOSE INVLOVED >>> "who would know about it all keep quiet? <<< AND THEY SHHHHHHHHHH...

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I'M SURE IT'S A PURR-FECT MOMENT FOR...

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WE MAY HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE ~ YET ~ PURR-SPECTIVE AS TO WHY ~ MAY BE PURR-SUASIVE ~ MAYBE NOT...

Project MKUltra—sometimes referred to as the CIA's mind control program—was the code name given to an illegal program of experiments on human subjects, designed and undertaken by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Experiments on humans were intended to identify and develop drugs and procedures to be used in interrogations and torture, in order to weaken the individual to force confessions through mind control. Organized through the Scientific Intelligence Division of the CIA, the project coordinated with the Special Operations Division of the U.S. Army's Chemical Corps.[1] The program began in the early 1950s, was officially sanctioned in 1953, was reduced in scope in 1964, further curtailed in 1967 and officially halted in 1973.[2] The program engaged in many illegal activities;[3][4][5] in particular it used unwitting U.S. and Canadian citizens as its test subjects, which led to controversy regarding its legitimacy.[3](p74)[6][7][8] MKUltra used numerous methodologies to manipulate people's mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis,[9] sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as various forms of torture.[not verified in body]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

THEY KEPT IT QUIET...

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment (/tʌsˈkiːɡiː/)[1] was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African-American men in Alabama. They were told that they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

The 40-year study was controversial for reasons related to ethical standards, primarily because researchers knowingly failed to treat patients appropriately after the 1940s validation of penicillin as an effective cure for the disease they were studying. Revelation in 1972 of study failures by a whistleblower led to major changes in U.S. law and regulation on the protection of participants in clinical studies. Now studies require informed consent [3] communication of diagnosis, and accurate reporting of test results.[4]

THEY KEPT IT QUIET

"The government admitted in 1994 that it used St. Louis as a testing ground because its architecture and climate were similar to cities in the Soviet Union. But it never revealed anything publicly about irradiated materials. Instead the Army claimed that the tests had been experiments to see if smoke clouds could be created to hide American cities from Soviet attacks. In reality, the military was testing offensive measures, not defensive. The tests, among other goals, were meant to discover “the penetration of the aerosol cloud into residences at various distances from the aerosol disperser, and to determine whether there is any residual background or lingering effect of the cloud within buildings.”

http://www.allgov.com/news/us-and-the-world/did-us-military-secretly-aerial-spray-st-louis-with-radioactive-chemicals?news=845890

"Martino-Taylor uncovered the information while working on her doctor of philosophy dissertation for the University of Missouri-Columbia, which studied how “ethical lapses” can allow members of a large organization to ignore the harm they are doing to innocent and unwitting people. In the course of her research, she obtained Army documents through the Freedom of Information Act."

OH THOSE >>> “ethical lapses” <<<

THEY KEPT IT QUIET...

OH WELL...WE'RE ON A UFO FORUM ~ SPECULATING ON WHAT IS ~ WHAT ISN'T ~ WHAT MIGHT BE ~ BASED ON >>> SOLID <<< FRACTIONAL EVIDENCE ~ AND SURELY ~ OUT OF THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ~ MILITARY ~ GUBMINT ~ CIVILIAN ~ AND ~ >>> “ethical lapses” OR " who would know about it all keep quiet?"

THEY KEPT IT QUIET...

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SOOOOO ~ WHEN ONE LOOKS AT THE CASEBOOK CRYSTAL BALL...ONE NEVER KNOWS WHAT MIGHT COME NEXT!

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AS HAL PUTS IT...HE ADORES SEEING PEOPLE THINK ~ KINDA FIGURED CAROL WOULD LIKE THIS ONE...grin

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« Reply #50 on: Dec 13th, 2015, 10:21am »

on Dec 12th, 2015, 05:27am, Smersh wrote:
How is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?


As I mentioned before I have asked similar questions many times and never received a satisfactory answer to that. It's like the moronic Moon Hoax in saying that all those involved (thousands at NASA ) have kept quiet or were fooled also.....right. rolleyes

The simple truth is that 'weather modification' related tests have been around for a long time going back decades and it's no conspiracy.
But that's not what the chemtrail wackos are referring to. They think some kind of brainwashing drug or other evil chemical is being sprayed on the public for some nefarious reason that only the Illuminati and their cabal partners know.
Sadly this is not the case and as you pointed out we would have known a long time ago. And comparing this to other so-called secret testing (which has no relevance at all) is about as useful as a screen door in a submarine.
Where is the tested particulate matter? Where are the whistle blowers..? Where is the evidence people are being infected or brainwashed..? Where is anything that points to this?
You won't find anything except junk on conspiracy web sites.
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« Reply #51 on: Dec 15th, 2015, 11:54am »

Hi ZETAR. wink

You posted several links to an (unconfirmed) individual experiment by the US government and it's true that govts have done some nasty things in the past. Here's another:

Millions were in germ war tests

But that's not the same thing as thousands of planes routinely flying all over the word 24/7 spraying toxic chemicals over themselves. And in any case, what would be the use of spraying from 30,000 ft? It would all disperse in the prevailing winds and be spread over hundreds or thousands of square miles and be completely ineffective by the time it reached the ground. It would be like trying to kill a mosquito by using fly spray on it from the other side of a football stadium, which is why crop spraying and aerial firefighting etc is done from heights of only a few hundred feet at most.

How is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?


on Dec 13th, 2015, 10:21am, drwu23 wrote:
As I mentioned before I have asked similar questions many times and never received a satisfactory answer to that ...


Me too Doc. And not just here, but in many Facebook threads lately. Especially on weather pages in threads posted by meteorologists, when they get invaded by the chemtrail lovers accusing him or her of "lying" etc, and they present no evidence whatsoever to back it up because there isn't any. But as you said, nobody ever provides a satisfactory answer. (If they attempt to answer it at all.)

Russ Tanner is the owner of Chemtrails Global Skywatch, the biggest chemtrail group on Facebook, in which lots of people post photos of clouds and parrot the chemtrail claims constantly. Russ makes a pretty good income on the websites he owns from peddling various "cures" that he claims will cure "ailments caused by chemtrail spraying."

Here's the "answer" he gave on his main website to that logistics question. (Make sure you are wearing an extra layer of tinfoil when reading this) ...

Aren't They Spraying Themselves?

(It's cuz of special filtration equipment, The Illuminati, Skull and Bones, Lucifer, Satan, The Holy Ghost, stuff like that ...)
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« Reply #52 on: Dec 15th, 2015, 2:21pm »

SMERSH,

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"it's true that govts have done some nasty things in the past"

THAT ESSENTIALLY WAS MY POINT ~ OR RATHER ~ >>> PREDISPOSED <<< TO SUCH...

predispose

verb pre·dis·pose \ˌlaughrē-di-ˈspōz\

: to cause (someone) to be more likely to behave in a particular way or to be affected by a particular condition


"But that's not the same thing as thousands of planes routinely flying all over the word 24/7 spraying toxic chemicals over themselves."

I INDEED AGREE ~ I'M NOT SAYING EVERY CONTRAIL IS A CHEMTRAIL ~ AND CLEARLY VICE-VERSA ~ I LEAN TOWARD >>> Dr. Kirkby’s 2009 CERN Aerosol Alien Biologypresentation makes it clear that IPCC climate scientists, Geoengineers and government agencies are fully aware that jet aircraft are dumping aerosols into the atmosphere with the effect of deliberate and covert climate manipulation <<< ~ TEMPERED WITH THE PREDISPOSITION THAT >>> even Dr. Kirkby may not be aware that these aerosols contain much more than chemicals for climate manipulation. <<<

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on Dec 15th, 2015, 2:21pm, ZETAR wrote:
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I INDEED AGREE ~ I'M NOT SAYING EVERY CONTRAIL IS A CHEMTRAIL ~ AND CLEARLY VICE-VERSA ~ I LEAN TOWARD >>> Dr. Kirkby’s 2009 CERN Aerosol Alien Biologypresentation makes it clear that IPCC climate scientists, Geoengineers and government agencies are fully aware that jet aircraft are dumping aerosols into the atmosphere with the effect of deliberate and covert climate manipulation <<< ~ TEMPERED WITH THE PREDISPOSITION THAT >>> even Dr. Kirkby may not be aware that these aerosols contain much more than chemicals for climate manipulation. <<< ...


Except that's what the conspiracy theorists' interpretation of that 2009 presentation was, because the term "aerosols" was used and (to them) "therefore something that has been sprayed." Aerosols are anything that floats about in the air, including water droplets. Clouds are aerosols. What Dr. Kirby was talking about was contrails started off by jet engine exhausts, consisting of ice crystals and (to begin with) some soot.

So the statement by Dr. Kirby that "these are clouds seeded by jets dumping aerosols into the upper atmosphere" is correct. Again, as per this diagram:

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The contrails are a by-product of the enormous worldwide demand for air travel and the only way to stop them completely would be to ground all aircraft worldwide.

As far as geoengineering is concerned, various proposals have been put forward of possible methods of combating global warming, none of which are actually happening yet and possibly never will. If it happens, it will be in the stratosphere at altitudes of 60,000 to 80,000 feet (unlike the claim that it's being done right now by commercial airliners at 30,000 feet or so) and you won't even be able to see it.

Another thing you have to remember is that clouds are very heavy. A contrail stretching for miles and spreading wide will weigh thousands of tons and there is no aircraft in existence that can take off with a payload of more than a few hundred tons at the very most.
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on Dec 15th, 2015, 11:54am, Smersh wrote:
Me too Doc. And not just here, but in many Facebook threads lately. Especially on weather pages in threads posted by meteorologists, when they get invaded by the chemtrail lovers accusing him or her of "lying" etc, and they present no evidence whatsoever to back it up because there isn't any. But as you said, nobody ever provides a satisfactory answer. (If they attempt to answer it at all.)

Russ Tanner is the owner of Chemtrails Global Skywatch, the biggest chemtrail group on Facebook, in which lots of people post photos of clouds and parrot the chemtrail claims constantly. Russ makes a pretty good income on the websites he owns from peddling various "cures" that he claims will cure "ailments caused by chemtrail spraying."

Here's the "answer" he gave on his main website to that logistics question. (Make sure you are wearing an extra layer of tinfoil when reading this) ...

Aren't They Spraying Themselves?

(It's cuz of special filtration equipment, The Illuminati, Skull and Bones, Lucifer, Satan, The Holy Ghost, stuff like that ...)


OMG...I read that link....bat s**t crazy comes to mind when reading his 'explanation'.
And these kind of people are actually allowed to vote and hold public jobs.
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[size=2][size=2][size=2][size=2]on Dec 16th, 2015, 4:45pm, drwu23 wrote:
OMG...I read that link....bat s**t crazy comes to mind when reading his 'explanation'.
And these kind of people are actually allowed to vote and hold public jobs grin


And they all be Democrats

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on Dec 16th, 2015, 4:59pm, Gort wrote:
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And they all be Democrats



Ah,,,the jokes on you good man since more Republicans
believe in conspiracy theories than do Democrats.
But never fear The Trump is allegedly neither.
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on Dec 16th, 2015, 5:09pm, drwu23 wrote:
Ah,,,the jokes on you good man since more Republicans
believe in conspiracy theories than do Democrats.
But never fear The Trump is allegedly neither.
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Did you pull that tidbit of information out of your butt?

Or is it just more of your standard bs.
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on Dec 16th, 2015, 5:30pm, Gort wrote:
Did you pull that tidbit of information out of your butt?

Or is it just more of your standard bs.


And you would know bs...that's for sure. laugh
Look it up.....if that's not too difficult for you.
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« Reply #59 on: Dec 16th, 2015, 7:11pm »

GENTLEMEN grin

I PEEPED EARLIER TO GET A PEEK AS TO WHICH WAY THIS WAS GOING ~ OF COURSE I FIGURED I WOULD LET IT PLAY OUT ~ SO 'YUZE GUYS' CAN GET THAT >>> BS ~ BROAD SWATH <<< OF ONES SHOULDERS ~ grin

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