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« Reply #60 on: Dec 20th, 2015, 12:20am »

well...that was a lively discussion..

but..what about this anomaly?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3364867/Aircraft-contrails-unintentionally-changing-atmosphere-warming-planet-researchers-warn.html
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it's extremely cold high in the atmosphere and these particles serve as nuclei for ice crystals, which form the bright contrails seen flowing behind a plane.

Some of these contrails have been found to contribute to climate change, according to other scientists.

A contrail may disappear, but it leaves behind a thin, icy haze.

Although the sky looks clear, the particles are still there until they eventually fall out of the atmosphere.

While still in the sky, the particles scatter the sun's light in a similar way as in other geoengineering projects.

'It seems quite possible that [Long is] seeing something that's real,' said Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research. But there's a lot more work that needs to be done to verify the find and make a connection to the climate.

Skies aren't clear all the time, and why they are clear one day and not the next could matter.

'The reason for the clear sky is a factor [Long] needs to explore more,' Trenbeth says.

Long has admitted that his study creates far more questions than it does answers.

Currently, he has only gathered serious data from only one spot in Oklahoma and there could be less sky whitening in places that don't get as much air traffic.


he phenomenon occurs when aircraft fly above 25,000ft, where the air temperature is around minus 86F.

This causes water vapor emitted by the engines to crystallze and form the familiar white streaks across the sky, known as contrails.

These can be short-lived.

But if there is already a significant amount of moisture in the atmosphere they can linger for hours, as the excess water vapor from the engines tips the surrounding air past its saturation point.

This acts as a catalyst to speed up the natural process of cloud formation.

Cirrus clouds – the wisp-like formations seen at high altitude – begin to form around the contrails.

Scientists say these grow into thin layers of cloud and can cover up to an astonishing 20,000 square miles of sky

The level of moisture in the air at high altitudes is unrelated to weather conditions at ground level, which is why it is possible to see contrails on a clear day.

Reading University's Professor Keith Shine, an expert in clouds, said that those formed by aircraft fumes could linger 'for hours', depriving those areas under busy flight paths of summer sunshine.

Experts have warned that, as a result, the amount of sunlight hitting the ground could be reduced by as much as 10 percent.


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« Reply #61 on: Dec 20th, 2015, 2:45pm »

SysConfig - From article you posted:

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... Experts have warned that, as a result, the amount of sunlight hitting the ground could be reduced by as much as 10 percent.


Sunlight is reduced, but global warming is actually worsened by cloud cover. There are far more contrails in the sky now than say, 20 or 30 years ago because of the huge increase in the demand for worldwide air travel and lots more planes flying. Also because of the wide use of high bypass turbofan engines, which create more contrails than older types of engines (although chemtrail conspiracy sites such as Russ Tanner's Global Skywatch wrongly claim that they produce no contrails at all.)

Here's an article with a possible way of planes creating less contrails, but it involves planes flying further on less direct routes (and therefore costing more in fuel) in order to avoid the areas of very cold temperatures and high humidity in which the most persistent trails are formed, known as "ice supersaturated."

http://www.popsci.com/article/science/flying-further-avoid-contrails-might-help-global-warming
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« Reply #62 on: Dec 22nd, 2015, 04:34am »

on Dec 7th, 2015, 4:45pm, Smersh wrote:
No there isn't. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Crank claims by scammers promoting the chemtrail hoax, out to con people out of their hard-earned cash and parroted all over the place by their gullible followers does not constitute evidence.



Apart from there being far more contrails in the sky these days, because far more planes are flying, the sky has not changed at all.



Yes, of course they criss-cross. Planes don't all fly in the same direction do they? Depends on where they are coming from and where they are going.



The only ones I've ever seen are from liars who pretend they have done this so they can have a laugh. And they have all been exposed as such as well.



I've done my research thanks, which is how I know chemtrails are an internet hoax. Have you done yours?

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Here's how contrails are formed, whether persistant or not. If the atmosphere at that altitude is ice-supersaturated, the trails will persist and spread wide, just like normal clouds do because they both consist of just water vapour:

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And aside from the science, which does not support the chemtrail claims at all, how do you think it is possible for any aircraft to carry thousands of tons of chemicals to make miles long trails in the sky, weighing thousands of tons?

And how is it possible that the pilots of thousands of planes are flying all over the world 24/7, spraying toxic chemicals over their own families and themselves, and the millions of people in the global aviation industry who would know about it all keep quiet?


Glad to see I am not the only one that thinks this crap is a hoax. Great post!
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« Reply #63 on: Dec 22nd, 2015, 2:12pm »

Thanks Wingnut.

You're far from being the only one who thinks it's a hoax (out of those who have seen all the crackpot claims on the internet that is. Most people in the world are probably not even aware of it and have never given it a thought.)

Unfortunately though, there are some who have completely fallen for the hoax and they in my opinion tend to be people in rich countries where they have relatively little to worry about, so they just imagine things. People in Third World countries have REAL things to worry about, such as where the next meal is coming from or will they be overrun by extremists such as Daesh, etc ...
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« Reply #64 on: Dec 23rd, 2015, 05:17am »

on Dec 22nd, 2015, 2:12pm, Smersh wrote:
Thanks Wingnut.

You're far from being the only one who thinks it's a hoax (out of those who have seen all the crackpot claims on the internet that is. Most people in the world are probably not even aware of it and have never given it a thought.)

Unfortunately though, there are some who have completely fallen for the hoax and they in my opinion tend to be people in rich countries where they have relatively little to worry about, so they just imagine things. People in Third World countries have REAL things to worry about, such as where the next meal is coming from or will they be overrun by extremists such as Daesh, etc ...


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People in Third World countries have REAL things to worry about, such as where the next meal is coming from or will they be overrun by extremists such as Daesh, etc ...


I can identify with the Third World country scenario I spent some time in a Third World country and its not pretty.
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« Reply #65 on: Dec 25th, 2015, 6:09pm »

Everyone has seen the red white and blue stripes at air shows, from jets flying in formation. In that case special dyes are added to the fuel. The dyes are specially formulated not to harm jet engines and are not toxic.
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« Reply #66 on: Jan 17th, 2016, 6:24pm »

https://happytailswag.wordpress.com/2015/12/27/busted-top-climate-scientist-confirms-covert-climate-engineering-a-fact/

Just pay a bit of attention and absorb ...

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« Reply #67 on: Jan 17th, 2016, 6:56pm »

JM57,

TO WIT:

"Just pay a bit of attention and absorb"

WELL DONE MATE!

"His “revelations” occurred on day 2 of the climate change conference in Paris that ran from 7th to 10th July, 2015.

As you will see from the transcript and video excerpts, below, Professor Lenton initially denied that geoengineering activities were already occurring but, when pressed further, he threw in the towel and conceded that the geoengineering of our skies was indeed already happening."

http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2015/12/26/busted-top-climate-scientist-confirms-covert-climate-engineering-a-fact/

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“But I think we can perhaps all agree that certainly none of us want to continue the current uncontrolled experiment”

"Above is a reveling quote from Professor Tim Lenton (Chair in Climate Change/Earth Systems Science, University of Exeter) who provided one of the many positive outcomes of this summer’s climate change conference in Paris."

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“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

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« Reply #68 on: Jan 17th, 2016, 9:37pm »

Truth is what one seeks
But,What will one do when it is found?
Deniers are full and abundant even when there is proof
They will deny what's right above their heads.
Look^^^^^ Watch what goes on overhead
I fear for my future gens
They have no idea
There is a movement all about the entire Earth
Many have awakened
It's not too late
The chit is hitting the fan,We are watching what goes on above all of US.
Keep Watching......You will see the tic-tac-toe games overhead.
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« Reply #69 on: Jan 18th, 2016, 08:26am »

metabunk says Tim Lenton,
was being "FACETIOUS"
"uncontrolled experiment"

As this morning, funny broken, (on off) lines in the sky
as far as the eye can see,
here in South Florida


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« Reply #70 on: Jan 18th, 2016, 10:34pm »

Ya,they've been nonexistent for 4 months here in my geo area,Then,It began again this early 2016.
Had 8 straight days of sunshine ,then one day of cloudiness
Following day,4 hrs of intermittent 'start',Runs for miles,stop,for 2-3 miles,Then restart,Then stop,
Why does this have the gaps in so-called "contrails" if not geoengineering?Contrails usually dissipate within minutes,These so called "contrails" last for hours,and spread out to envelope the sky,If this is 'normal',It's not what I have seen in my early years of my lifetime.
More need to wake up.
We have a worldwide awakening of a precedent which even MSM makes a frivolity of.
Too many groups about the Earth,Spread the news on a daily basis.
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« Reply #71 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 9:57pm »

Too much evidence mounts and the sleepers stay that way,Yet,
No one seems to care.
What about "your" future generations?


Keep unwatching the skies above you,when your ailments become unbearable,just maybe,You may realize.
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on Jan 19th, 2016, 9:57pm, jm57 wrote:
Keep unwatching the skies above you,when your ailments become unbearable,just maybe,You may realize.



Then, what could be done
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« Reply #73 on: Jan 20th, 2016, 8:32pm »

The only thing to do is educate oneself,subscribe to the many orgs on the webz for current onging info around the world,There are many waking worldwide.
Myself,I stay with my supplements ,they help alleviate symptoms.
When the 'tic-tac-toe' begins ,I wear a surgical mask if I must venture outdoors.

Some think I'm crazy here in my small town,But,the result has been I've not been sick in 4 years,No cold,No flu,No recurrence from by bout with cancer.


Stay healthy my friends...
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« Reply #74 on: Jan 31st, 2016, 3:22pm »

Anon hijacks NASA drone then stumble nto something else..

http://www.infowars.com/hackers-allegedly-hijack-drone-after-massive-breach-at-nasa/

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AnonSec’s zine specifically cites climate engineering methods such as cloud seeding and geoengineering as the main driver behind the hack.

“One of the main purposes of the Operation was to bring awareness to the reality of Chemtrails/CloudSeeding/Geoengineering/WeatherModification, whatever you want to call it, they all represent the same thing. NASA even has several missions dedicated to studying Aerosols [sic] and their affects on the environment and weather, so we targeted their systems.”

Cloud seeding, a weather modification method that uses silver iodide to create precipitation in clouds, was most famously used by the U.S. military under “Operation Popeye” during the Vietnam war. After seeding clouds in the northern part of the country, U.S. forces were able to thwart Viet Cong supply lines by creating heavy rain over the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

Geoengineering, according to NASA’s Erik Conway, involves “injecting sulfate particles into the upper atmosphere – essentially mimicking a large volcanic eruption,” in an attempt to reflect sunlight away from the planet.

A poll conducted by the Independent in 2009, outlined in the article “Climate scientists: it’s time for ‘Plan B,'” states that more than 50 percent of climate scientists support looking into geoengineering.

“Just over half – 54 per cent – of the 80 international specialists in climate science who took part in our survey agreed that the situation is now so dire that we need a backup plan that involves the artificial manipulation of the global climate to counter the effects of man-made emissions of greenhouse gases.”

The hackers link to several mainstream reports and patents as evidence of current weather modification programs.

A 2013 article from Slate entitled, “Climate Intelligence Agency: The CIA is now funding research into manipulating the climate,” examines a 21-month, $630,000 project carried out by The National Academy of Sciences.

“The goal of the CIA-backed NAS study is to conduct a ‘technical evaluation of a limited number of proposed geoengineering techniques,’ according to the NAS website,” the article reads. “Scientists will attempt to determine which geoengineering techniques are feasible and try to evaluate the impacts and risks of each (including ‘national security concerns’).”

Another article from The Telegraph listed by the hackers mentions how “The Chinese government covered Beijing in snow… after meteorologists seeded clouds to bring winter weather to the capital in an effort to combat a lingering drought.”

The hackers argue that if cloud seeding, geoengineering and weather modification “are all publicly acknowledged as real, why are Chemtrails [sic] discredited when its [sic] literally the same exact thing just with a different name?”

“We find it staggering how many people still dont [sic] believe the federal government is doing this when its [sic] already public knowledge that the CIA is funding studies, certain states and countries already have WeatherModification [sic] programs in place for the past several years, not to mention all the government whistleblowers,” the zine says.

AnonSec’s Dêfãult Vírüsa, who spoke with Infowars over encrypted communications, stated that no one involved in the NASA breach has been apprehended by law enforcement.

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